20-30% white collar unemployment in the next 12-18 months -- how much blame will Trump get?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess they will all need to get careers in healthcare.

In 1990 healthcare wasn’t the top employer in any state.

In 2024 it’s the top employer in 39 states.

Da Vinci surgery machine for the win.

https://www.intuitive.com/en-us/products-and-services/da-vinci

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks to AI, it's happening. Coders, lawyers, most content creators (PR, technical writers), HR, payroll, etc. all going to be out of work.

It's going to be UGLY... how much blame will Trump get?

We'll all get to pick fruit in California. Trump saved us!

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when Amazon launched “just walk out” technology in their stores? They made everyone believe that this was the start of a new era and their stores could really thrive with just a fraction of the employees a traditional store had. Then when they announced the experiment failed, we found out that it wasn’t AI at all, but thousands of people in India tasked with watching what was going into the carts.

Also related: Elon’s humanoid robots being actual people in robot costumes.

They’re all lying and hoping their products can catch up in time.

I believe this more than AI actually doing someone's job. Companies are laying off right now because Musk demonstrated you can fire hundreds of thousands of people with zero consequences and then hire a fraction back at far less pay and no benefits.

Musk destroyed the company doing that. The only reason he succeeded is because Twitter is his propaganda machine, not a self-sustainingvbusiness.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when Amazon launched “just walk out” technology in their stores? They made everyone believe that this was the start of a new era and their stores could really thrive with just a fraction of the employees a traditional store had. Then when they announced the experiment failed, we found out that it wasn’t AI at all, but thousands of people in India tasked with watching what was going into the carts.

Also related: Elon’s humanoid robots being actual people in robot costumes.

They’re all lying and hoping their products can catch up in time.

I believe this more than AI actually doing someone's job. Companies are laying off right now because Musk demonstrated you can fire hundreds of thousands of people with zero consequences and then hire a fraction back at far less pay and no benefits.

Musk destroyed the company doing that. The only reason he succeeded is because Twitter is his propaganda machine, not a self-sustainingvbusiness.

Company performance doesn't matter. The CEOs are so rich they can run an unprofitable company for decades.

[Anonymous]

Just keep deporting and it will work out

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Anonymous wrote:How are people going to pay for whatever it is AI will give us if they are unemployed?

Oh, it's a terrible idea that will just generate a lot of economic chaos. There will be some winners, but it won't be you, and it definitely won't be most Trump voters.

Actually, many Trump voters have jobs that cannot be replaced by AI. They are plumbers, electricians, carpenters, welders, dog groomers, farmers, etc.

LOL. If computers are doing surgery, they can weld and wire.

Maybe for new pre-fabricated homes. Have you ever lived or worked in a historic property?

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Anonymous wrote:How are people going to pay for whatever it is AI will give us if they are unemployed?

Oh, it's a terrible idea that will just generate a lot of economic chaos. There will be some winners, but it won't be you, and it definitely won't be most Trump voters.

Actually, many Trump voters have jobs that cannot be replaced by AI. They are plumbers, electricians, carpenters, welders, dog groomers, farmers, etc.

current Sec of Ag said she was replacing migrant farm workers with AI robots and Medicade recipients

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Architects and engineers - all out of work in two years time.

Nuclear engineering could be safe. Have to somehow fuel all the data centers needed for AI right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just keep deporting and it will work out

Because somehow, in your bizzarro world it makes sense to have laid-off software developers, microbiologists, and so on out picking crops in the fields to replace the people who got deported. Chairman Mao would approve, that's what he did during the cultural revolution that killed millions - take all of the educated people and put them to manual labor and other inefficient things.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people going to pay for whatever it is AI will give us if they are unemployed?

Oh, it's a terrible idea that will just generate a lot of economic chaos. There will be some winners, but it won't be you, and it definitely won't be most Trump voters.

Actually, many Trump voters have jobs that cannot be replaced by AI. They are plumbers, electricians, carpenters, welders, dog groomers, farmers, etc.

current Sec of Ag said she was replacing migrant farm workers with AI robots and Medicade recipients

This administration is so stupid. There aren't enough AI robots to replace farm workers and even if there were, farmers couldn't afford to buy fleets of them. And, Medicaid recipients are Medicaid recipients because they aren't healthy enough to be doing grueling manual labor. It's like they are in la-la land, thinking a quadriplegic or a 79 year old person with a pacemaker and a leg amputated from diabetes is "just faking" or "just needs some exercise and better food choices" and voila everything will magically be better or that a farmer can just run down to Tractor Supply and shell out a couple hundred bucks for a half dozen bots to pick asparagus and strawberries. For being the party that pretends to represent rural America and "flyover country" the GOP sure is out of touch with some of these basic realities.

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Anonymous wrote:Job loss due to automation has been predicted since the start of the industrial revolution. We haven't seen mass unemployment yet. I'll believe it when I see it. Jobs will change, but there will be jobs.

My thoughts exactly.

As an aside, it is great to see young people deciding not to go to college and learning a trade instead - auto mechanic, plumbing, carpentry, welding......all jobs that pay well and will be around for some time to come.

Unless no one has money to hire these trades people because they lost thier jobs. I guess trades people can work for trades people, but at lower rates because more carpenters than needed?

Yes, it’s going to be very bad for everyone. And Trump isn’t doing ANYTHING to prepare us.

I’ll be just fine. My profession can’t be automated or done by a robot.

A lot of people on this forum are probably f**ked tho.

My job also can’t be automated but living in a country with huge levels of unemployment doesn’t sound like fun tho? Increased crime, collapsing infrastructure, failing public schools, strained hospitals, food lines. Even if you don’t care about your fellow countrymen, it will suck for all of us unless you are very, very wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks to AI, it's happening. Coders, lawyers, most content creators (PR, technical writers), HR, payroll, etc. all going to be out of work.

It's going to be UGLY... how much blame will Trump get?

Social media and iPhones always make all tweens, teens and college students distracted and dumb as bricks. So they can’t focus, write, do math, or work a job anyhow.

[Anonymous]

Trump deserves 100% of the blame. These are his policies, his actions, his economy.

[Anonymous]

|earn to <0de, commie by+che$

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Anonymous wrote:|earn to <0de, commie by+che$

What's the point of that? The system that Republicans are fine with is already rigged to put 400,000 Indian and Chinese coders a year in line for jobs ahead of American coders, and a lot of the coder job market will shrink when tech companies have Copilot and other tools writing half the code plus the unit tests and everything else for them.