Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Israel could threaten their nuclear weapons again if they feel they are getting overwhelmed by Iran to draw the US into combat.

During the 1973 Yom Kippur War, when Israeli forces were being overwhelmed, Israel put its nuclear arsenal on high alert to pressure the U.S. into sending military support.

"The Samson Option is a term for Israel’s strategy of threatening massive nuclear retaliation as a last resort if the country’s survival is at stake, like if it were being overrun by enemy forces. "


And is there some reason the nuclear option doesn't make sense in the face of likely annihilation? Fortunately, that prospect is unlikely for Israel, given the feeble nature of opposing terror regimes.
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Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.


Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.


Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.


true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations


Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..



Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.


Except you, who have secret knowledge unavailable to the rest of the world, which mistakenly considers Islamic terrorism to be the problem, not the desire of the Israelis to be left in peace. Fortunately you're here to enlighten us, and to explain how Islamic terror is not really a bad thing at all!


Also lol at pretending like the British Mandate authority were innocent victims? where did all the blathering about settler colonialism go?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is madness
I really hope America will not be dragged into this


I hope otherwise, as U.S power would end the conflict even more rapidly, saving lives and bringing about much needed regime change in Iran. A lack of commitment has resulted in Iran steadily working towards a nuclear weapon - it's time for decisive and definitive action to eliminate the mullahs and their insane theocratic, antidemocratic and antisemitic regime once and for all.
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Anonymous wrote:I think what Israel has done to Gaza is absolutely horrendous. And I think Netanyahu has intentionally created and perpetuated a horrible situation for Gazans.

I think the only potential good thing to come out of what Israel is doing right now is the destruction of the IRGC and other power structures in Iran with decapitation strikes.

Now would be a good time for the people of Iran to take the Mahsa Amini uprising back up and retake their country from the brutal theocrats who have been running Iran.

If that happens, Iran should dial it back and focus on a path forward for Palestine and its own territories.

Lover of Iran, how do you like they chant in elementary school Death to America and would love nothing more than to murder you?


Lover of Israel, how do you like that they attacked the USS liberty killing American soldiers and would love nothing more than have all your soldiers die for them? Or that 9/11 was good for them?


Boy that’s a deep cut you had to resort to 😂 Sure, Iran is America’s friend and Israel is America’s enemy.
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Anonymous wrote:I think what Israel has done to Gaza is absolutely horrendous. And I think Netanyahu has intentionally created and perpetuated a horrible situation for Gazans.

I think the only potential good thing to come out of what Israel is doing right now is the destruction of the IRGC and other power structures in Iran with decapitation strikes.

Now would be a good time for the people of Iran to take the Mahsa Amini uprising back up and retake their country from the brutal theocrats who have been running Iran.

If that happens, Iran should dial it back and focus on a path forward for Palestine and its own territories.

Lover of Iran, how do you like they chant in elementary school Death to America and would love nothing more than to murder you?


Lover of Israel, how do you like that they attacked the USS liberty killing American soldiers and would love nothing more than have all your soldiers die for them? Or that 9/11 was good for them?


Boy that’s a deep cut you had to resort to 😂 Sure, Iran is America’s friend and Israel is America’s enemy.


Remember, it's Opposite Day for the Palestinian apologist and propagandist!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I mean this question very broadly over the arc of decades and Israel's place in the international community.

Obviously the US is sticking with Israel. But the US has alienated our allies, so may have less influence going forward over certain issues.

Europe, Russia, China, the other Arab states. What does all this mean going forwards?


Yes and the US should tell Netanyahu that he is on his own and not one US member of our military forces will be deployed to fight for Israel.

I was on Israel's side until they began using starvation as a weapon of war as well as the murder of more than 50,000 women and children. Israel has adopted the tactics of Nazi Germany and may they suffer the same the fate.
Anonymous
Philip Giraldi, former CIA terrorist expert, is warning that Israel may be planning a false flag attack against Americans such the Lavon affair or USS liberty in order to further draw the US and the public against Iran.

In addition, Republicans have been parroting the presence of so called "Iranian sleeper cells" that could attack on American soil also raising concern for another Israeli false flag operation.

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Anonymous
Our clown in chief’s weakness is going to get us involved in a terrible war. The only way to get to Iran’s nuclear facilities is with a tactical nuke of your own. If he authorizes that I sincerely hope that some adults step into the room and explain to everyone that playtime is over.
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Anonymous wrote:This is madness
I really hope America will not be dragged into this


I hope otherwise, as U.S power would end the conflict even more rapidly, saving lives and bringing about much needed regime change in Iran. A lack of commitment has resulted in Iran steadily working towards a nuclear weapon - it's time for decisive and definitive action to eliminate the mullahs and their insane theocratic, antidemocratic and antisemitic regime once and for all.


NP. Then you send your sons to die. Not mine.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is madness
I really hope America will not be dragged into this


I hope otherwise, as U.S power would end the conflict even more rapidly, saving lives and bringing about much needed regime change in Iran. A lack of commitment has resulted in Iran steadily working towards a nuclear weapon - it's time for decisive and definitive action to eliminate the mullahs and their insane theocratic, antidemocratic and antisemitic regime once and for all.

What conflict?
Whatever it is, it is not our problem
Regime change will leave a power vacuum and will not result in a democratically elected president friendly to the US or Israel.

Most likely other Arab nations will also be drawn into the conflict.

Does Israel really want to gamble like this?
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Anonymous wrote:This is madness
I really hope America will not be dragged into this


I hope otherwise, as U.S power would end the conflict even more rapidly, saving lives and bringing about much needed regime change in Iran. A lack of commitment has resulted in Iran steadily working towards a nuclear weapon - it's time for decisive and definitive action to eliminate the mullahs and their insane theocratic, antidemocratic and antisemitic regime once and for all.


NP. Then you send your sons to die. Not mine.


You'd prefer to wait until Iran comes for them, than to prevent that from happening? Are you related to Neville Chamberlain?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is madness
I really hope America will not be dragged into this


I hope otherwise, as U.S power would end the conflict even more rapidly, saving lives and bringing about much needed regime change in Iran. A lack of commitment has resulted in Iran steadily working towards a nuclear weapon - it's time for decisive and definitive action to eliminate the mullahs and their insane theocratic, antidemocratic and antisemitic regime once and for all.


NP. Then you send your sons to die. Not mine.


Unfortunately, the same powers that wanted American troops to be sacrificed in Iraq also want them to be sacrificed for Iran.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is madness
I really hope America will not be dragged into this


I hope otherwise, as U.S power would end the conflict even more rapidly, saving lives and bringing about much needed regime change in Iran. A lack of commitment has resulted in Iran steadily working towards a nuclear weapon - it's time for decisive and definitive action to eliminate the mullahs and their insane theocratic, antidemocratic and antisemitic regime once and for all.

What conflict?
Whatever it is, it is not our problem
Regime change will leave a power vacuum and will not result in a democratically elected president friendly to the US or Israel.

Most likely other Arab nations will also be drawn into the conflict.

Does Israel really want to gamble like this?


There's no gamble. The Iranian people in general don't support the authoritarian theocratic government they have now, so any replacement is more likely to resemble something more democratic and tolerant. The surrounding Arab states for the most part want nothing to do with excessive religious extremism which can destabilize their own governments, so they're certainly not going to weigh in on the side of Iran. They've been on the sidelines throughout the Israeli Palestinian conflict for good reason - they learned that engaging militarily against Israel inevitably ended badly. Further, they discover that if they leave Israel alone in peace, Israel in turn leaves them along in peace - what a shocker!
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Anonymous wrote:This is madness
I really hope America will not be dragged into this


I hope otherwise, as U.S power would end the conflict even more rapidly, saving lives and bringing about much needed regime change in Iran. A lack of commitment has resulted in Iran steadily working towards a nuclear weapon - it's time for decisive and definitive action to eliminate the mullahs and their insane theocratic, antidemocratic and antisemitic regime once and for all.


NP. Then you send your sons to die. Not mine.


Unfortunately, the same powers that wanted American troops to be sacrificed in Iraq also want them to be sacrificed for Iran.


Like it would have been better to leave Saddam in Kuwait, until he decided to venture further afield? That would have been such a good idea.
Anonymous
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-israel-asked-us-to-join-military-campaign-against-iran-but-us-rejects-request/

Israel is desperately trying to get US to join military campaign against Iran but the US has declined, at least openly.

Israel asked US President Donald Trump’s administration to join its attack against the Islamic Republic’s nuclear and military sites, two Israeli officials told the news site.
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