Summer swim brings out the crazy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladders need to be published. 5k races post times (even for kids), track meets post results/times, club meets post times, HS posts times, NVSLs website posts times, etc

Ladders are help with team integrity, and it’s really not that big of a deal.

Just know when you post them that kids from their teams always get ahold of them

At the 13 and over (and possibly 12U), I'm not sure it matters. By that point the fastest kids doing summer swim are also coincidentally your club swimmers. They know their times, friends' times, their competitors' times, your mom's time, etc. etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladders need to be published. 5k races post times (even for kids), track meets post results/times, club meets post times, HS posts times, NVSLs website posts times, etc

Ladders are help with team integrity, and it’s really not that big of a deal.

Just know when you post them that kids from their teams always get ahold of them

At the 13 and over (and possibly 12U), I'm not sure it matters. By that point the fastest kids doing summer swim are also coincidentally your club swimmers. They know their times, friends' times, their competitors' times, your mom's time, etc. etc.

“Your mom’s time” dying

[Anonymous]

Wow - the culture on our team is just to trust the coaches. Times are available in Swimtopia and on the wall postings at meets and on the heat sheets. But we don't post a ladder directly. That seems to me to be needlessly cruel. People who care about times have open access to them and know where to find them. People who don't will just bump into them occasionally and can ignore them. The kids only care about times on meet day.

[Anonymous]

I'm at a D1 pool that doesn't post the ladders and I am glad that they don't. The 8u and 10u don't need to see how they are ranked against others. It should just focus on them getting the best time they can. For the 12u and older, I am sure they already know the times or how to find it. Anyone swimming D1 in A meets is also swimming winter swim, so they know the game.

[Anonymous]

The ladders aren't for the kids (particularly the younger ones). They are for the parents.

We post our ladder in Swimtopia, which helps parents plan for whether or not their kid is swimming that weekend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ladders aren't for the kids (particularly the younger ones). They are for the parents.

We post our ladder in Swimtopia, which helps parents plan for whether or not their kid is swimming that weekend.

Ours are posted on a bulletin board at the pool and the kids know where to find them and when they are updated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ladders aren't for the kids (particularly the younger ones). They are for the parents.

We post our ladder in Swimtopia, which helps parents plan for whether or not their kid is swimming that weekend.

Ironically, for the parents who are keeping score, a ladder is self-defeating. Gotta root for others to be away in order to secure lane 6 in an A meet!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Guys, Tuckahoe is leading the charge on posting the ladder, right?? Because those parents are by far the craziest summer swim parents around.

OKM posts a ladder, and there aren’t crazies. It’s a lovely team with lovely families and kids. My child sometimes makes it, sometimes doesn’t, but we know it’s 100% on the up and up, particularly since we have a lot of depth in some age groups.

OKM definitely not a chill team

Really nice people, but agreed definitely not chill. Case in point, see the post about the tech suits and records, which tracks with my experience volunteering at an A meet with their parents - everybody was very into who held what record, what younger siblings were breaking their older siblings' records, etc. Super friendly and welcoming, but intense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladders need to be published. 5k races post times (even for kids), track meets post results/times, club meets post times, HS posts times, NVSLs website posts times, etc

Ladders are help with team integrity, and it’s really not that big of a deal.

Have you brought this up with your summer team reps/coaches? Run for team rep? Just trying to see how many of posters are willing to walk the talk.

Thanks. I am this poster. No need for me to discuss as our pool does post meet results and ladder twice a week (once after A meet and once after B meet). We also post after time trials. Ladder is available for all team members to access on the team website (behind the login).

Oh and btw - I’m on the swim team board, who does table chief duties weekly amongst many other things. Think I walk the talk pretty well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh I felt this yesterday. Another mom
Pointing out that her daughter moved up a lane. Just have fun it’s just summer swim.

This....why is nothing fun for kids anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm at a D1 pool that doesn't post the ladders and I am glad that they don't. The 8u and 10u don't need to see how they are ranked against others. It should just focus on them getting the best time they can. For the 12u and older, I am sure they already know the times or how to find it. Anyone swimming D1 in A meets is also swimming winter swim, so they know the game.

And…everyone knows each other’s times and how the rank. Come on. MySwimIO, swimmingrank (now defunct), USA Swimming…times from club are so accessible and club parents, reps for teams where the A meet competitors are solely club swimmers after 8 and Under, and even the kids know how to look up someone’s club times.

[Anonymous]

Club times are irrelevant for summer swim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ladders aren't for the kids (particularly the younger ones). They are for the parents.

We post our ladder in Swimtopia, which helps parents plan for whether or not their kid is swimming that weekend.

It doesn’t actually help with planning because if your kid is 4-6 on the ladder their getting to swim on Saturday is dependent on match ups and which events the coaches choose to put the 1-3 kids in

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladders need to be published. 5k races post times (even for kids), track meets post results/times, club meets post times, HS posts times, NVSLs website posts times, etc

Ladders are help with team integrity, and it’s really not that big of a deal.

Just know when you post them that kids from their teams always get ahold of them

At the 13 and over (and possibly 12U), I'm not sure it matters. By that point the fastest kids doing summer swim are also coincidentally your club swimmers. They know their times, friends' times, their competitors' times, your mom's time, etc. etc.

They also can probably tell you how they are going to place in every meet before the season even starts….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I overheard a parent at practice talking last night about his 10 year old and how basically his kid was the next Olympian. That their club team needed to be good with them not being able to attend club practices since she love summer swim practices. Also apparently not meeting club attendance requirements during the year due to other sports. That they need to deal with it because they needed her because she can make JOs and if they don't like her lack of commitment NCAP would kill to have her.

It was honestly kind of shocking and insane. The tone was crazy. I think the parents he was talking to were just floored by the hubris.

Did this Parent read this thread yet? Probably feels like a jack ass now!!