Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?

They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?

The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.

I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?

They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?

The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.

I still support Israel, but I loathe the Israeli government, and I believe they are war criminals. They should be tried and jailed.

I don't know what we can do, except call our congressfolk and beg beg beg them to help the Palestinian children. And protest. We are so helpless in the face of this criminal effort to exterminate the Palestinian people by the current Israeli government.

I will never back down from my support of Israel, but I do not want my tax dollars supporting its current corrupt government and its illegal war on innocent Palestinian children.

^^ me too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:World Central Kitchen has announced it has run out of supplies and can no longer cook meals in Gaza:

https://wck.org/news/gaza-update-5-7

This is so incredibly grim - and on purpose! It's on purpose!! It's unconscionable. And I say that as a Jew who supports Israel - but not, like another person put it, this evil and corrupt administration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:World Central Kitchen has announced it has run out of supplies and can no longer cook meals in Gaza:

https://wck.org/news/gaza-update-5-7

This is all part of the Israeli plan and is going as intended. This is their final solution to starve everyone to death. No need to waste any more bombs now that all the infrastructure is decimated.

[Anonymous]

IDF soldiers brag about luring Palestinians with food before committing war crimes

https://www.threads.com/@life_ispain_auchocolat/post/DJUtWpoyRDI/it-was-like-a-video-game

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10162355553570469&id=669335468

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:May the Israelis get what they deserve and may we all live to see it.

You are all a bunch of bloodthirsty psychopaths.

Hamas is horrible. So Israel is horrible. So you hope Israel gets treated the same way. This will never end, you know.

I'm a Jew who went on Birthright and was staunchly pro-Israel all my life until the past two years. The blood of murdered Palestinians cries out for justice and the genocidal evil Israelis are doing is an affront to all the Jews murdered in European pogroms and the Holocaust. The Zionist Project must end and it will end only when it is destroyed. May I live to see it happen. There is nothing you can say that will sway me (and most of the world's population) from this position.

Hey, I agree with this statement entirely. The Zionist project should end.

What you expressed earlier is something else entirely?

DP.

The above will never persuade moderates (like me).

I’m a left-leaning independent (not Jewish) who supports a Palestinian state, deplores the Israeli government, and believes that US should act to prevent Israel from reoccupying Gaza.

But I will absolutely not support the elimination of Israel. The fact that this is central to the pro-Palestinian movement is anathema to a majority of Americans across the political spectrum.

You want to make political progress and help the Palestinians? Move to the middle ASAP.

If you don't believe in the dismantling of Israel as a political entity the same way that apartheid South Africa was dismantled, then you are a racist, no exceptions.

South Africa still exists as a country and South Africans of all races, religions, and ethnicities still live there. But people somehow want all the non-Muslim Israelis to … leave? Disappear? Move to Europe or South America or …? And it’s just not going to happen. If you want “apartheid Israel” to end, it would mean the Palestinians denouncing Hamas, terrorism, and extremism, and agreeing to live as law-abiding Israeli citizens in a largely secular society - like the approximately 1/3 of Arab Israelis who enjoy the same freedoms as every other Israeli citizen. And yes, the hardliners in the Israeli government would have to agree to this as well and if they didn’t, the Israeli people and people internationally would need to condemn them. But that’s how we get to one Israel because the people who already live there aren’t leaving, that’s a non-starter.

Exactly. They’re calling for an ethnic cleansing.

Which is not only immoral by their own standards, but utterly impractical since there’s a zero percent chance that the Israelis would accept the elimination of their nation.

Its idiotic.

No one is calling for that. It'd almost be funny if it weren't so damn sad that you literally can't fathom a Palestine/Israel where Jews, Muslims, and Christians can live as equals. Can Israel not exist without subjugating the people whose land they stole? And if it can't, do they bear no responsibility for the massive amounts of ill will they've engendered?

Do you also believe in rainbow-colored unicorns?

There’s a zero percent chance that these peoples can live in peace in a single nation. Because of both of them.

There’s also a zero percent chance that Israelis would ever accept such an arrangement, for understandable reasons.

Your proposed solution is, in short, utterly unrealistic. Literally no chance of it happening and, if it did, would lead to even more bloodshed.

They live with a 20% Palestinian population in Israel currently. Palestinians in the West Bank live among Jewish settlers.

All of Hamas speak Hebrew despite not living among Israelis in over 20 years.

Lots of the IDF speak Arabic.

It’s practically a one state solution already. They just can’t admit it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?

They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?

The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.

I’m equally sickened by terrorist organizations and their apologists. Children are starving because of Hamas.

Hamas is evil. The children are children for God's sake. There is something very very wrong with you if you can't understand that allowing - no, not allowing causing - children to starve is an atrocity.

Israel is starving the children. On purpose.

So why does Israel get all the blame and Hamas gets none? Hamas is also starving the children on purpose. I’ll accept shared responsibility for this humanitarian crisis but the blood is not solely on Israel’s hands.

Nobody, nobody is claiming it’s all Israel. Hamas started a big conflict. Since then Israel has turned from the victim to the bully. They’re no longer trying to get rid of Hamas. They are trying to get rid of all Palestinians. If that means murdering every man, woman and child then that’s what they’ll do.

Hamas is literally holding an American citizen hostage to this day.

And the Israeli government is knowingly starving Palestinian children to death. Do two wrongs make a right? Ask your God that one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?

They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?

The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?

I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.

I’m equally sickened by terrorist organizations and their apologists. Children are starving because of Hamas.

Hamas is evil. The children are children for God's sake. There is something very very wrong with you if you can't understand that allowing - no, not allowing causing - children to starve is an atrocity.

Israel is starving the children. On purpose.

So why does Israel get all the blame and Hamas gets none? Hamas is also starving the children on purpose. I’ll accept shared responsibility for this humanitarian crisis but the blood is not solely on Israel’s hands.

Nobody, nobody is claiming it’s all Israel. Hamas started a big conflict. Since then Israel has turned from the victim to the bully. They’re no longer trying to get rid of Hamas. They are trying to get rid of all Palestinians. If that means murdering every man, woman and child then that’s what they’ll do.

Hamas is literally holding an American citizen hostage to this day.

And the Israeli government is knowingly starving Palestinian children to death. Do two wrongs make a right? Ask your God that one.

The Israeli government is also starving their own hostages. Tells you plenty of how they are just an excuse to commit a Holocaust

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are these the Palestinians who were cheering on 9/11? If so, don’t care.

There were no Palestinians cheering 9/11. Wrong groi

[Anonymous]

Netanyahu called 9/11 good for Israel back in 2001 days after the attack. The halls of Congress all clear to give him a standing ovation and a blank check each time even when he criticizes the US president in Congress. He goaded us into Iraq to take out Saddam and didn’t send one IDF soldier. NATO in addition to several Muslim countries like Turkey provided more aid than Israel to us during Iraq. Think about that

[Anonymous]

In addition, the supposed yellow cake uranium Saddam was making was actually a secret deal the Israelis were doing.

Trump appears to be giving Israel free rein over hurting Palestinians to avoid creating war with Iran which he doesn’t want but Israel wants from us. Iraq drained us so badly financially. The global recession is not linked to mortgages. It’s linked to the oil crisis in 2008 that started in 2004 in Iraq when the oil refineries were getting burned up by Iraqis in protest

[Anonymous]

How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu called 9/11 good for Israel back in 2001 days after the attack. The halls of Congress all clear to give him a standing ovation and a blank check each time even when he criticizes the US president in Congress. He goaded us into Iraq to take out Saddam and didn’t send one IDF soldier. NATO in addition to several Muslim countries like Turkey provided more aid than Israel to us during Iraq. Think about that

Netanyahu has us indirectly funding or directly doing all his wars in recent history - Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon etc. The US is his lapdog and he is on record stating he can easily manipulate our government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May the Israelis get what they deserve and may we all live to see it.

You are all a bunch of bloodthirsty psychopaths.

Hamas is horrible. So Israel is horrible. So you hope Israel gets treated the same way. This will never end, you know.

I'm a Jew who went on Birthright and was staunchly pro-Israel all my life until the past two years. The blood of murdered Palestinians cries out for justice and the genocidal evil Israelis are doing is an affront to all the Jews murdered in European pogroms and the Holocaust. The Zionist Project must end and it will end only when it is destroyed. May I live to see it happen. There is nothing you can say that will sway me (and most of the world's population) from this position.

Hey, I agree with this statement entirely. The Zionist project should end.

What you expressed earlier is something else entirely?

DP.

The above will never persuade moderates (like me).

I’m a left-leaning independent (not Jewish) who supports a Palestinian state, deplores the Israeli government, and believes that US should act to prevent Israel from reoccupying Gaza.

But I will absolutely not support the elimination of Israel. The fact that this is central to the pro-Palestinian movement is anathema to a majority of Americans across the political spectrum.

You want to make political progress and help the Palestinians? Move to the middle ASAP.

If you don't believe in the dismantling of Israel as a political entity the same way that apartheid South Africa was dismantled, then you are a racist, no exceptions.

South Africa still exists as a country and South Africans of all races, religions, and ethnicities still live there. But people somehow want all the non-Muslim Israelis to … leave? Disappear? Move to Europe or South America or …? And it’s just not going to happen. If you want “apartheid Israel” to end, it would mean the Palestinians denouncing Hamas, terrorism, and extremism, and agreeing to live as law-abiding Israeli citizens in a largely secular society - like the approximately 1/3 of Arab Israelis who enjoy the same freedoms as every other Israeli citizen. And yes, the hardliners in the Israeli government would have to agree to this as well and if they didn’t, the Israeli people and people internationally would need to condemn them. But that’s how we get to one Israel because the people who already live there aren’t leaving, that’s a non-starter.

Exactly. They’re calling for an ethnic cleansing.

Which is not only immoral by their own standards, but utterly impractical since there’s a zero percent chance that the Israelis would accept the elimination of their nation.

Its idiotic.

No one is calling for that. It'd almost be funny if it weren't so damn sad that you literally can't fathom a Palestine/Israel where Jews, Muslims, and Christians can live as equals. Can Israel not exist without subjugating the people whose land they stole? And if it can't, do they bear no responsibility for the massive amounts of ill will they've engendered?

Do you also believe in rainbow-colored unicorns?

There’s a zero percent chance that these peoples can live in peace in a single nation. Because of both of them.

There’s also a zero percent chance that Israelis would ever accept such an arrangement, for understandable reasons.

Your proposed solution is, in short, utterly unrealistic. Literally no chance of it happening and, if it did, would lead to even more bloodshed.

They live with a 20% Palestinian population in Israel currently. Palestinians in the West Bank live among Jewish settlers.

All of Hamas speak Hebrew despite not living among Israelis in over 20 years.

Lots of the IDF speak Arabic.

It’s practically a one state solution already. They just can’t admit it

Is it that the people in that region simply can't tolerate living under equal rights with people who don't share their same religious faith and culture? Or is it mostly because the leaders in the region are all hate filled and power hungry garbage? I've had the privilege of encountering both Jews and Muslims from that region and they have been absolutely wonderful human beings so I continue to be puzzled by the never ending bloodshed between these two groups of people in this particular part of the world.

Is it something in the water over there muting their intelligence and fueling the hate of all the people or just the typical good people/awful government type of thing? I used to assume it was good people/bad government but I'm beginning to wonder if the people of that region are all hate filled simpletons who refuse to coexist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May the Israelis get what they deserve and may we all live to see it.

You are all a bunch of bloodthirsty psychopaths.

Hamas is horrible. So Israel is horrible. So you hope Israel gets treated the same way. This will never end, you know.

I'm a Jew who went on Birthright and was staunchly pro-Israel all my life until the past two years. The blood of murdered Palestinians cries out for justice and the genocidal evil Israelis are doing is an affront to all the Jews murdered in European pogroms and the Holocaust. The Zionist Project must end and it will end only when it is destroyed. May I live to see it happen. There is nothing you can say that will sway me (and most of the world's population) from this position.

Hey, I agree with this statement entirely. The Zionist project should end.

What you expressed earlier is something else entirely?

DP.

The above will never persuade moderates (like me).

I’m a left-leaning independent (not Jewish) who supports a Palestinian state, deplores the Israeli government, and believes that US should act to prevent Israel from reoccupying Gaza.

But I will absolutely not support the elimination of Israel. The fact that this is central to the pro-Palestinian movement is anathema to a majority of Americans across the political spectrum.

You want to make political progress and help the Palestinians? Move to the middle ASAP.

If you don't believe in the dismantling of Israel as a political entity the same way that apartheid South Africa was dismantled, then you are a racist, no exceptions.

South Africa still exists as a country and South Africans of all races, religions, and ethnicities still live there. But people somehow want all the non-Muslim Israelis to … leave? Disappear? Move to Europe or South America or …? And it’s just not going to happen. If you want “apartheid Israel” to end, it would mean the Palestinians denouncing Hamas, terrorism, and extremism, and agreeing to live as law-abiding Israeli citizens in a largely secular society - like the approximately 1/3 of Arab Israelis who enjoy the same freedoms as every other Israeli citizen. And yes, the hardliners in the Israeli government would have to agree to this as well and if they didn’t, the Israeli people and people internationally would need to condemn them. But that’s how we get to one Israel because the people who already live there aren’t leaving, that’s a non-starter.

Exactly. They’re calling for an ethnic cleansing.

Which is not only immoral by their own standards, but utterly impractical since there’s a zero percent chance that the Israelis would accept the elimination of their nation.

Its idiotic.

No one is calling for that. It'd almost be funny if it weren't so damn sad that you literally can't fathom a Palestine/Israel where Jews, Muslims, and Christians can live as equals. Can Israel not exist without subjugating the people whose land they stole? And if it can't, do they bear no responsibility for the massive amounts of ill will they've engendered?

Do you also believe in rainbow-colored unicorns?

There’s a zero percent chance that these peoples can live in peace in a single nation. Because of both of them.

There’s also a zero percent chance that Israelis would ever accept such an arrangement, for understandable reasons.

Your proposed solution is, in short, utterly unrealistic. Literally no chance of it happening and, if it did, would lead to even more bloodshed.

They live with a 20% Palestinian population in Israel currently. Palestinians in the West Bank live among Jewish settlers.

All of Hamas speak Hebrew despite not living among Israelis in over 20 years.

Lots of the IDF speak Arabic.

It’s practically a one state solution already. They just can’t admit it

Is it that the people in that region simply can't tolerate living under equal rights with people who don't share their same religious faith and culture? Or is it mostly because the leaders in the region are all hate filled and power hungry garbage? I've had the privilege of encountering both Jews and Muslims from that region and they have been absolutely wonderful human beings so I continue to be puzzled by the never ending bloodshed between these two groups of people in this particular part of the world.

Is it something in the water over there muting their intelligence and fueling the hate of all the people or just the typical good people/awful government type of thing? I used to assume it was good people/bad government but I'm beginning to wonder if the people of that region are all hate filled simpletons who refuse to coexist.

Zionism, for obvious reasons, is absolutely incompatible with the idea of a one state solution. Given that most Israelis are Zionist, there is no possibility of coexistence.