2025 - TJ Admission Results Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Given that everyone is saying college outsxomew at base school is better than tj isn’t it good for these non tj top kids? It seems to be a win win situation for all concerned

If your definition of win is for admitted TJ kids not able to take the advanced STEM courses it provides, while the kids stay at the base high school run out the math courses to take at the 11/12th grade. Yes, it's a Huge win in Trump's tone.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there is an entire class of Algebra II students at Carson?

There are two classes of Algebra two at Cooper

So basically attending a high SES school that offers more opportunities for enrichment gives students a big edge on TJ offers?

Apparently, they prefer wealth and access to opportunity over demonstrated ability through standardized tests because they think THAT'S where wealth makes a difference.

Wealth played a bigger factor getting into the pool in the first place.

If money plays a role in education, why can't FCPS(one of the richest counties in US ) provide more advanced STEM courses at a few more base high school? Why FCPS has to restrict the resources into one TJ, and play the political DEI game? Is it really that expensive to add a couple of more advanced Math courses, the online one will do.
Yet, all the FCPS parents and kids are being manipulated like 13 districts in the Hunger Games, speculating their ration of education resources and fight for a spot in TJ.

DEI game: TJ is predomently Asian. The admission changes barely moved the numbers on Black and Hispanic kids. The largest change was an increase in less well-off Asian kids.

Yep, because Asian earned their spots, like other races earned their spots in sports. The TJ admission policy changes has to intentionally lower the math level. The kids on lower math level won't be able to benefit from the advanced math/stem courses TJ provides, math level dictates how other STEM courses progress in sequence. It's impossible to skip math level on high school level no matter how hard you are willing to work. So the kids on lower level math in TJ will be the bottom of the class, no plot twist there. And the college OA compares the high school profile(all the courses it provides) and kids' courses taken, the conclusion would be the kids don't know how to take advantages of the resources the school provides, hence the kids won't be able to take advantage of the resources our colleges provide. This is why all the good colleges suggest the kids taking the most rigorous courses their high school provides. If the high school does not offer any AP courses, it's fine, OA takes that into consideration. But the high school like TJ offers all the fancy advanced STEM courese and the kids aren't able to take, OA thinks it's kids' capability.

And the rest is not.

Make TJ Asian Again!!

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Anonymous wrote:Is there is an entire class of Algebra II students at Carson?

There are two classes of Algebra two at Cooper

So basically attending a high SES school that offers more opportunities for enrichment gives students a big edge on TJ offers?

Apparently, they prefer wealth and access to opportunity over demonstrated ability through standardized tests because they think THAT'S where wealth makes a difference.

Wealth played a bigger factor getting into the pool in the first place.

If money plays a role in education, why can't FCPS(one of the richest counties in US ) provide more advanced STEM courses at a few more base high school? Why FCPS has to restrict the resources into one TJ, and play the political DEI game? Is it really that expensive to add a couple of more advanced Math courses, the online one will do.
Yet, all the FCPS parents and kids are being manipulated like 13 districts in the Hunger Games, speculating their ration of education resources and fight for a spot in TJ.

DEI game: TJ is predomently Asian. The admission changes barely moved the numbers on Black and Hispanic kids. The largest change was an increase in less well-off Asian kids.

Yep, because Asian earned their spots, like other races earned their spots in sports. The TJ admission policy changes has to intentionally lower the math level. The kids on lower math level won't be able to benefit from the advanced math/stem courses TJ provides, math level dictates how other STEM courses progress in sequence. It's impossible to skip math level on high school level no matter how hard you are willing to work. So the kids on lower level math in TJ will be the bottom of the class, no plot twist there. And the college OA compares the high school profile(all the courses it provides) and kids' courses taken, the conclusion would be the kids don't know how to take advantages of the resources the school provides, hence the kids won't be able to take advantage of the resources our colleges provide. This is why all the good colleges suggest the kids taking the most rigorous courses their high school provides. If the high school does not offer any AP courses, it's fine, OA takes that into consideration. But the high school like TJ offers all the fancy advanced STEM courese and the kids aren't able to take, OA thinks it's kids' capability.

And the rest is not.

Make TJ Asian Again!!

TJ was and is Asian American majority for past three decades. For last four years, FCPS has had a free hand to manipulate the racial composition yet it reluctantly and overwhelmingly relies on the Asian American students to accept the offers, enroll in the most rigorous advanced TJ courses, and bring in STEM accolades and honors that help uphold TJ's national reputation, whatever remains of it following recent declines in rankings. Hypothetically, if all Asian Americans were excluded from TJ, who would want to attend it and how would TJ be any different from one of the bottom ranked fcps schools with no Asian American students?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there is an entire class of Algebra II students at Carson?

There are two classes of Algebra two at Cooper

So basically attending a high SES school that offers more opportunities for enrichment gives students a big edge on TJ offers?

Apparently, they prefer wealth and access to opportunity over demonstrated ability through standardized tests because they think THAT'S where wealth makes a difference.

Wealth played a bigger factor getting into the pool in the first place.

If money plays a role in education, why can't FCPS(one of the richest counties in US ) provide more advanced STEM courses at a few more base high school? Why FCPS has to restrict the resources into one TJ, and play the political DEI game? Is it really that expensive to add a couple of more advanced Math courses, the online one will do.
Yet, all the FCPS parents and kids are being manipulated like 13 districts in the Hunger Games, speculating their ration of education resources and fight for a spot in TJ.

DEI game: TJ is predomently Asian. The admission changes barely moved the numbers on Black and Hispanic kids. The largest change was an increase in less well-off Asian kids.

The largest increase was low SES students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there is an entire class of Algebra II students at Carson?

There are two classes of Algebra two at Cooper

So basically attending a high SES school that offers more opportunities for enrichment gives students a big edge on TJ offers?

Apparently, they prefer wealth and access to opportunity over demonstrated ability through standardized tests because they think THAT'S where wealth makes a difference.

Wealth played a bigger factor getting into the pool in the first place.

If money plays a role in education, why can't FCPS(one of the richest counties in US ) provide more advanced STEM courses at a few more base high school? Why FCPS has to restrict the resources into one TJ, and play the political DEI game? Is it really that expensive to add a couple of more advanced Math courses, the online one will do.
Yet, all the FCPS parents and kids are being manipulated like 13 districts in the Hunger Games, speculating their ration of education resources and fight for a spot in TJ.

DEI game: TJ is predomently Asian. The admission changes barely moved the numbers on Black and Hispanic kids. The largest change was an increase in less well-off Asian kids.

The largest increase was low SES students.

Even lowering the math requirement to the lowest, still barely moved the numbers of Black and Hispanic kids. I wonder why?????

[Anonymous]

I missed the first 10 mins of the webinar. What was covered?

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Opening remarks- basically reviewed email

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about any case with any kids taking PreCalculus in the 8th grade? Did they get in, waitlisted, or rejected? What is the intake for such a rare case?

I don't know about that, but TJ is missing out on some of the most elite mathematicians in the area. The USA(J)MO awards came out. TJ had 9 awardees. The rest of Fairfax county had 5, including one kid who is a top winner and will be invited to MOP. Either the admissions process is missing out on some of the top kids in the entire country, or for whatever reason, some elite kids are no longer interested in TJ.

I don't understand the term of 'missing out'. What make it requires that all of the winner has to be from TJ, those 5 kids from other school could be not interested in TJ at the first place. They could be accepted but decline the offer. And what is wrong if an elite kids just not interested in TJ? You make it like every academic achievement outside TJ is just wrong and consider TJ failure, how?

There's nothing wrong with elite kids not being interested in TJ. There is something wrong with elite kids who desperately wanted to attend TJ being rejected due to the somewhat random nature of the process. There is also something wrong with them having to deal with froshmore admissions when they should have been no brainer admits in the first place.

In the past, nearly all USA(J)MO awardees in the TJ catchment attended TJ. If 1/3 of the current "elite crop" of kids isn't interested in TJ, more power to them. We don't know if that is what is happening here.

And what about the kids who desperately wanted to attend TJ but don't even bother to apply because TJ was barely accessible to them, or could not afford the prep. Just a reminder, 1/3 of TJ old acceptance was came from single test prep company, not to mention the other test prep.

Why, PP? Seriously:

WHY are you in this admissions thread for the class of 2029? You are only here spreading your DEI-bs.

Go away progressive troll!

[Anonymous]

Just ignore the trolls... it's easier.

By responding, you are providing them fuel!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I missed the first 10 mins of the webinar. What was covered?

Was preview night not in person this year?

[Anonymous]

Preview night is tomorrow. Webinar was a preview of the preview

[Anonymous]

Starting to get word of more students at our middle school who got into TJ. Some of the kids in Algebra 2 honors who are on the math counts and science team members got waitlisted, while a non AAP kid in Algebra 1 who told the kids at school that he lied about winning awards in his essays got in.

This is why a test is needed to pick the right students from each middle school. A test that only compares kids against their own middle schools for the 1.5% would be very helpful to determine the top students at the school. The remaining 100 or so slots available after the quotas are selected can also be compared by test scores. Some stem kids are not good essay writers.

Another thing, why are there 4 SPSs and only 1 PSE? Shouldn’t it be reversed to see which kids are capable of answering the questions? It would also be helpful if there was a section where kids can tell the admissions team about themselves and how a STEM education is important.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about any case with any kids taking PreCalculus in the 8th grade? Did they get in, waitlisted, or rejected? What is the intake for such a rare case?

I don't know about that, but TJ is missing out on some of the most elite mathematicians in the area. The USA(J)MO awards came out. TJ had 9 awardees. The rest of Fairfax county had 5, including one kid who is a top winner and will be invited to MOP. Either the admissions process is missing out on some of the top kids in the entire country, or for whatever reason, some elite kids are no longer interested in TJ.

I don't understand the term of 'missing out'. What make it requires that all of the winner has to be from TJ, those 5 kids from other school could be not interested in TJ at the first place. They could be accepted but decline the offer. And what is wrong if an elite kids just not interested in TJ? You make it like every academic achievement outside TJ is just wrong and consider TJ failure, how?

There's nothing wrong with elite kids not being interested in TJ. There is something wrong with elite kids who desperately wanted to attend TJ being rejected due to the somewhat random nature of the process. There is also something wrong with them having to deal with froshmore admissions when they should have been no brainer admits in the first place.

In the past, nearly all USA(J)MO awardees in the TJ catchment attended TJ. If 1/3 of the current "elite crop" of kids isn't interested in TJ, more power to them. We don't know if that is what is happening here.

And what about the kids who desperately wanted to attend TJ but don't even bother to apply because TJ was barely accessible to them, or could not afford the prep. Just a reminder, 1/3 of TJ old acceptance was came from single test prep company, not to mention the other test prep.

Why, PP? Seriously:

WHY are you in this admissions thread for the class of 2029? You are only here spreading your DEI-bs.

Go away progressive troll!

Why can’t I be here? I am a TJ parent.
And why are you here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard about any case with any kids taking PreCalculus in the 8th grade? Did they get in, waitlisted, or rejected? What is the intake for such a rare case?

I don't know about that, but TJ is missing out on some of the most elite mathematicians in the area. The USA(J)MO awards came out. TJ had 9 awardees. The rest of Fairfax county had 5, including one kid who is a top winner and will be invited to MOP. Either the admissions process is missing out on some of the top kids in the entire country, or for whatever reason, some elite kids are no longer interested in TJ.

I don't understand the term of 'missing out'. What make it requires that all of the winner has to be from TJ, those 5 kids from other school could be not interested in TJ at the first place. They could be accepted but decline the offer. And what is wrong if an elite kids just not interested in TJ? You make it like every academic achievement outside TJ is just wrong and consider TJ failure, how?

There's nothing wrong with elite kids not being interested in TJ. There is something wrong with elite kids who desperately wanted to attend TJ being rejected due to the somewhat random nature of the process. There is also something wrong with them having to deal with froshmore admissions when they should have been no brainer admits in the first place.

In the past, nearly all USA(J)MO awardees in the TJ catchment attended TJ. If 1/3 of the current "elite crop" of kids isn't interested in TJ, more power to them. We don't know if that is what is happening here.

And what about the kids who desperately wanted to attend TJ but don't even bother to apply because TJ was barely accessible to them, or could not afford the prep. Just a reminder, 1/3 of TJ old acceptance was came from single test prep company, not to mention the other test prep.

Why, PP? Seriously:

WHY are you in this admissions thread for the class of 2029? You are only here spreading your DEI-bs.

Go away progressive troll!

Why can’t I be here? I am a TJ parent.
And why are you here?

I highly doubt you are a TJ parent.

Past or present school board member? Nardos King or her staff? Maybe.

In any event: take your political bloviating elsewhere. This thread is for parents of the class of 2029 (not you, PP).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Starting to get word of more students at our middle school who got into TJ. Some of the kids in Algebra 2 honors who are on the math counts and science team members got waitlisted, while a non AAP kid in Algebra 1 who told the kids at school that he lied about winning awards in his essays got in.

This is why a test is needed to pick the right students from each middle school. A test that only compares kids against their own middle schools for the 1.5% would be very helpful to determine the top students at the school. The remaining 100 or so slots available after the quotas are selected can also be compared by test scores. Some stem kids are not good essay writers.

Another thing, why are there 4 SPSs and only 1 PSE? Shouldn’t it be reversed to see which kids are capable of answering the questions? It would also be helpful if there was a section where kids can tell the admissions team about themselves and how a STEM education is important.

You made a serious allegation. Is that even possible? They don't fact-check the essays (maybe not every single detail, but key facts)?