There was a pit bull on a plane with me yesterday

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Anonymous wrote:This seems like a non-issue and I’m not sure why someone bumped such an old thread. Op didn’t even notice, clearly this dog was better behaved than most children (and perhaps adults, especially some of the rabid anti-pit pps!), so I’m not sure why the fuss.

Oh gosh, I didn’t realize this was a NEW thread that was almost identical to a previous one lol. Methinks it’s just the same person who wants to strangle all pits and pit lookalikes starting these constantly.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday on an Alaska Airlines cross country flight a woman got on with a pit mix. The dog was huge, it wasn't wearing a service vest and tugging at the leash and whining for the entire boarding process. She sat a few rows behind me but they made an announcement that it was an entirely full flight so I doubt the dog had its own seat. There is absolutely no way this was a service dog. How on earth was this allowed? If that dog was next to me on a six hour flight I would have flipped the eff out. People have lost their minds.

Terrible. Are there pets-free flights or are all flights allowing four legged?

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

+1 I approve of airlines trying to crack down on ESAs and bogus service dogs.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday on an Alaska Airlines cross country flight a woman got on with a pit mix. The dog was huge, it wasn't wearing a service vest and tugging at the leash and whining for the entire boarding process. She sat a few rows behind me but they made an announcement that it was an entirely full flight so I doubt the dog had its own seat. There is absolutely no way this was a service dog. How on earth was this allowed? If that dog was next to me on a six hour flight I would have flipped the eff out. People have lost their minds.

And?

You lived to tell the tale, didn’t you?

Are you normally a whiny little beeotch?

This. But did you die?!!

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

According to... you, grand high adjudicator of all things on the anon board?

My seizure alert dog is "part pit". That's "a true service dog", in case you didn't already know. So when you see us out in public, or on a plane, minding our own business, feel free to mind your own.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems like a non-issue and I’m not sure why someone bumped such an old thread. Op didn’t even notice, clearly this dog was better behaved than most children (and perhaps adults, especially some of the rabid anti-pit pps!), so I’m not sure why the fuss.

Oh gosh, I didn’t realize this was a NEW thread that was almost identical to a previous one lol. Methinks it’s just the same person who wants to strangle all pits and pit lookalikes starting these constantly.

"Pit bull" is to dogs what "Karen" has become to women: a meaningless epithet tossed off by ignorant people who aren't capable of having a nuanced conversation grounded in any sort of cultural awareness. The sort of person using these terms is often unhinged. The whiter they are, the greater the likelihood of MAGAish affiliations

Hating pit bulls also reeks of racism, as the cultures predominantly stereotyped as having pit bulls are often non-white. Just like "Karen" in its current configuration* is misogynist.

*- this used to have a specific meaning about an out-of-line, overly-entitled white woman, often middle-aged, minding Black folks' business and calling the police to start trouble because she was a racist POS person.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday on an Alaska Airlines cross country flight a woman got on with a pit mix. The dog was huge, it wasn't wearing a service vest and tugging at the leash and whining for the entire boarding process. She sat a few rows behind me but they made an announcement that it was an entirely full flight so I doubt the dog had its own seat. There is absolutely no way this was a service dog. How on earth was this allowed? If that dog was next to me on a six hour flight I would have flipped the eff out. People have lost their minds.

And?

You lived to tell the tale, didn’t you?

Are you normally a whiny little beeotch?

This. But did you die?!!

So I'm curious... are you in support of people bringing their pet (non-service) dogs into WalMart and other grocery/retail stores despite rules against it? This happens occasionally at our local stores and the workers usually never confront the owner, so the person just completes their shopping with their pet in the shopping cart basket. Do you approve of this type of rule-breaking? Or do you not care? Or do you think that the store employees should enforce the "no-pet" ban?

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

According to... you, grand high adjudicator of all things on the anon board?

My seizure alert dog is "part pit". That's "a true service dog", in case you didn't already know. So when you see us out in public, or on a plane, minding our own business, feel free to mind your own.

Of course I will. So long as your dog is polite and well-trained. If your dog is anxious, panting, whining, pulling at the leash, etc -- I will likely not say a word, but I will internally judge you as a poor dog handler.

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday on an Alaska Airlines cross country flight a woman got on with a pit mix. The dog was huge, it wasn't wearing a service vest and tugging at the leash and whining for the entire boarding process. She sat a few rows behind me but they made an announcement that it was an entirely full flight so I doubt the dog had its own seat. There is absolutely no way this was a service dog. How on earth was this allowed? If that dog was next to me on a six hour flight I would have flipped the eff out. People have lost their minds.

And?

You lived to tell the tale, didn’t you?

Are you normally a whiny little beeotch?

This. But did you die?!!

So I'm curious... are you in support of people bringing their pet (non-service) dogs into WalMart and other grocery/retail stores despite rules against it? This happens occasionally at our local stores and the workers usually never confront the owner, so the person just completes their shopping with their pet in the shopping cart basket. Do you approve of this type of rule-breaking? Or do you not care? Or do you think that the store employees should enforce the "no-pet" ban?

I'm in favor of people in shared spaces following the rules that are designed to allow everyone's fair use. Pet owners bringing their pets into pet-free spaces are violating those rules. Frequently, the poorly-trained pet will behave in a way that makes it harder for those of us who have legitimate service animals to maintain access to those spaces (or public spaces in general).

If I saw that, I'd stop shopping there. It's not worth confronting a bad owner, who will have all sorts of excuses about their animal, how hard they've got it, etc. I suppose you could try talking to a manager, but if it has happened more than once, they're probably aware and already doing what they're willing to do about it.

I don't get paid to police other mothers' children in public spaces. If what you're doing is a threat to me and mine, that's one thing. If I simply don't agree and/or don't like it, I can vote with my feet and my wallet and take my business elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

According to... you, grand high adjudicator of all things on the anon board?

My seizure alert dog is "part pit". That's "a true service dog", in case you didn't already know. So when you see us out in public, or on a plane, minding our own business, feel free to mind your own.

Of course I will. So long as your dog is polite and well-trained. If your dog is anxious, panting, whining, pulling at the leash, etc -- I will likely not say a word, but I will internally judge you as a poor dog handler.

Sounds like a miserable way to live, but okay. At least you got the first part right!

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

According to... you, grand high adjudicator of all things on the anon board?

My seizure alert dog is "part pit". That's "a true service dog", in case you didn't already know. So when you see us out in public, or on a plane, minding our own business, feel free to mind your own.

Of course I will. So long as your dog is polite and well-trained. If your dog is anxious, panting, whining, pulling at the leash, etc -- I will likely not say a word, but I will internally judge you as a poor dog handler.

Sounds like a miserable way to live, but okay. At least you got the first part right!

Not at all. I think it would be miserable to have a poorly trained dog. But you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

According to... you, grand high adjudicator of all things on the anon board?

My seizure alert dog is "part pit". That's "a true service dog", in case you didn't already know. So when you see us out in public, or on a plane, minding our own business, feel free to mind your own.

Of course I will. So long as your dog is polite and well-trained. If your dog is anxious, panting, whining, pulling at the leash, etc -- I will likely not say a word, but I will internally judge you as a poor dog handler.

Sounds like a miserable way to live, but okay. At least you got the first part right!

Not at all. I think it would be miserable to have a poorly trained dog. But you do you.

My dog is professionally-trained, and you probably won't ever see her, so go off with your judgmental self. But, for your own mental well-being, you might want to unclench and detach a little, especially when it comes to things you don't control.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

According to... you, grand high adjudicator of all things on the anon board?

My seizure alert dog is "part pit". That's "a true service dog", in case you didn't already know. So when you see us out in public, or on a plane, minding our own business, feel free to mind your own.

Of course I will. So long as your dog is polite and well-trained. If your dog is anxious, panting, whining, pulling at the leash, etc -- I will likely not say a word, but I will internally judge you as a poor dog handler.

Sounds like a miserable way to live, but okay. At least you got the first part right!

Not at all. I think it would be miserable to have a poorly trained dog. But you do you.

My dog is professionally-trained, and you probably won't ever see her, so go off with your judgmental self. But, for your own mental well-being, you might want to unclench and detach a little, especially when it comes to things you don't control.

So there you have it... your dog is professionally trained and would be well-behaved in public, right? So I would see your dog and think "what a nice dog" and go about my merry way.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems like a non-issue and I’m not sure why someone bumped such an old thread. Op didn’t even notice, clearly this dog was better behaved than most children (and perhaps adults, especially some of the rabid anti-pit pps!), so I’m not sure why the fuss.

Oh gosh, I didn’t realize this was a NEW thread that was almost identical to a previous one lol. Methinks it’s just the same person who wants to strangle all pits and pit lookalikes starting these constantly.

"Pit bull" is to dogs what "Karen" has become to women: a meaningless epithet tossed off by ignorant people who aren't capable of having a nuanced conversation grounded in any sort of cultural awareness. The sort of person using these terms is often unhinged. The whiter they are, the greater the likelihood of MAGAish affiliations

Hating pit bulls also reeks of racism, as the cultures predominantly stereotyped as having pit bulls are often non-white. Just like "Karen" in its current configuration* is misogynist.

*- this used to have a specific meaning about an out-of-line, overly-entitled white woman, often middle-aged, minding Black folks' business and calling the police to start trouble because she was a racist POS person.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABAHAHAHAHABHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

please don't ever EVER call anyone else unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

According to... you, grand high adjudicator of all things on the anon board?

My seizure alert dog is "part pit". That's "a true service dog", in case you didn't already know. So when you see us out in public, or on a plane, minding our own business, feel free to mind your own.

Of course I will. So long as your dog is polite and well-trained. If your dog is anxious, panting, whining, pulling at the leash, etc -- I will likely not say a word, but I will internally judge you as a poor dog handler.

Sounds like a miserable way to live, but okay. At least you got the first part right!

Not at all. I think it would be miserable to have a poorly trained dog. But you do you.

My dog is professionally-trained, and you probably won't ever see her, so go off with your judgmental self. But, for your own mental well-being, you might want to unclench and detach a little, especially when it comes to things you don't control.

So there you have it... your dog is professionally trained and would be well-behaved in public, right? So I would see your dog and think "what a nice dog" and go about my merry way.

According to this thread, (stupid) people would see OMG PIT BULL ON TEH PLANE!!111! and die of an aneurysm.

She's a lovely dog. If you like well-mannered heckin' good doggos, you'd love her. I sure do. She's saved my life twice already.