There was a pit bull on a plane with me yesterday

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe it was a service dog of some kind.


Those have to clearly marked with a vest. And have paperwork.

Though I guess you could buy a fake one online.


Actually, no. There is no requirement that a service dog wear a vest nor that they have "paperwork" beyond testifying to the 2 questions that can be asked under the ADA.

/has a service dog and puppy raises seeing eye dogs
Anonymous
I love dogs and I thoroughly respect trained service dogs.
I am pretty annoyed by the lack of any controls around service dogs on airlines. You can just get a designation from the internet or your therapist who is licensed with barely a BA degree and bring whatever dog on. I’ve seen dogs run away from their owners at security, poop on the carpet while waiting in security, and shake in terror and cry for an entire flight. And while I actively seek out seats next to retrievers or other sweet dogs, I would absolutely complain about being seated near a pit or having my kid sat near one.

I don’t know why the FAA or airline industry doesn’t set up a certification program for in flight assistant animals where you have to prove that your dog can follow commands, be approached by strangers without growling, etc. hospitals do that for dogs that go into hospitals, nursing homes or hospices. It could be a very similar test.

https://www.therapydogs.com/therapy-dog-certification/#
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Usually the dog has to fit in a carrier under the seat.

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/pets-in-cabin


Exactly. Sounds like the OP is lying.


Why would I be lying about this?? I was shocked. I'm actually going to lodge a complaint with Alaska today.


By all means, please do so. If the airline infringed its own rules, you have to complain, so they can retrain their staff.
It's very important.

But because you inserted the name of the breed, instead of just saying this dog was not in a carrier and seemed too large for the weight limit... you come across as a crazy anti-pitbull person, and you lose crediblity.

So next time, when you want to complain, only complain about actually disallowed things: weight, carrier. The breed is immaterial.



Lol. It’s the pro-pitbull people who have no credibility.

“They’re sooooo sweet!!”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe it was a service dog of some kind.


Those have to clearly marked with a vest. And have paperwork.

Though I guess you could buy a fake one online.


I have seen so many fake service dogs. A couple had their two dogs in vests for boarding and then when we departed to baggage off went the vests. Dogs shuffling around and barking the whole time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Usually the dog has to fit in a carrier under the seat.

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/pets-in-cabin


Exactly. Sounds like the OP is lying.


Why would I be lying about this?? I was shocked. I'm actually going to lodge a complaint with Alaska today.


By all means, please do so. If the airline infringed its own rules, you have to complain, so they can retrain their staff.
It's very important.

But because you inserted the name of the breed, instead of just saying this dog was not in a carrier and seemed too large for the weight limit... you come across as a crazy anti-pitbull person, and you lose crediblity.

So next time, when you want to complain, only complain about actually disallowed things: weight, carrier. The breed is immaterial.


Joke’s on you, Speech Police PP. It is actually, literally ALL about the breed here. This is from the same FAQ link PP posted above:

“The following Brachycephalic breeds and breed mixtures are prohibited from flying in the cargo compartment on Alaska Airlines:

Dogs
American Pit Bull, American Staffordshire Terrier…..

Why are these breeds allowed to fly in the cabin if they are prohibited from flying in the cargo compartment?

Brachycephalic or "short-nosed" breeds are always at a higher risk of respiratory distress as compared to other breeds and careful consideration should be taken when planning travel. Should you choose to travel with these pets on an airplane, it will still be allowed under the continual care of their owner while in cabin.”

Basically the cargo hold can cause breathing problems for certain—gasp!—***BREEDS*** of dogs and cats.

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/banfield-qa#breeds-allowed-cabin
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe it was a service dog of some kind.


Those have to clearly marked with a vest. And have paperwork.

Though I guess you could buy a fake one online.
Did you just make this up in your head? There is no paperwork for service dogs. And the vests are not mandatory, they are something that owners choose to buy if they want. PP, do better.
Anonymous
I’m someone who has traveled with my small dog several times on airplanes. My dog was always required to be under the seat and in an enclosed carrier. I’ve seen a lot of dogs recently that are massive and sitting in their own seats. How?! Not service dogs.

Frankly it would be cheaper on a lot of flights if my dog had its own seat. Under the seat is expensive!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe it was a service dog of some kind.


Those have to clearly marked with a vest. And have paperwork.

Though I guess you could buy a fake one online.
Did you just make this up in your head? There is no paperwork for service dogs. And the vests are not mandatory, they are something that owners choose to buy if they want. PP, do better.

I’m a flight attendant and this is somewhat true. My airline no longer allows emotional support animals, but obviously allows service animals. They don’t require a vest or special collar, but the owner does have to provide some sort of pertinent information at booking, as it shows up on our manifest as a service animal. What that information is, I’m not sure.
Anonymous
Once a dog starts barking in the gate or on the flight, the owner has been outed as a fraud. Airlines need to be more punitive in banning that person from ever flying with an animal again. There needs to be some limits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Usually the dog has to fit in a carrier under the seat.

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/pets-in-cabin


Exactly. Sounds like the OP is lying.


Why would I be lying about this?? I was shocked. I'm actually going to lodge a complaint with Alaska today.


By all means, please do so. If the airline infringed its own rules, you have to complain, so they can retrain their staff.
It's very important.

But because you inserted the name of the breed, instead of just saying this dog was not in a carrier and seemed too large for the weight limit... you come across as a crazy anti-pitbull person, and you lose crediblity.

So next time, when you want to complain, only complain about actually disallowed things: weight, carrier. The breed is immaterial.



Hahahhaa new poster but have to say of the two OP sounds very reasonable and you sound like a fact denying lunatic. Of course there is a difference in breeds. I would never own a pit. There is a reason you home owners insurance is much higher when you own one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Once a dog starts barking in the gate or on the flight, the owner has been outed as a fraud. Airlines need to be more punitive in banning that person from ever flying with an animal again. There needs to be some limits.


Service dogs can still bark, especially in a new situation. Dogs are allowed on planes. Its may be new and scarry to them.
Anonymous
This exact post has been written before. Month or 2 ago. Someone just doesn’t like pit bulls and wants to keep complaining about them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Usually the dog has to fit in a carrier under the seat.

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/pets-in-cabin


Exactly. Sounds like the OP is lying.


Why would I be lying about this?? I was shocked. I'm actually going to lodge a complaint with Alaska today.


By all means, please do so. If the airline infringed its own rules, you have to complain, so they can retrain their staff.
It's very important.

But because you inserted the name of the breed, instead of just saying this dog was not in a carrier and seemed too large for the weight limit... you come across as a crazy anti-pitbull person, and you lose crediblity.

So next time, when you want to complain, only complain about actually disallowed things: weight, carrier. The breed is immaterial.



The breed is very material. Absolutely no one wants to sit next a pit bull and their low class moron of an owner on a cross country flight. I am very surprised Alaska Airlines allowed the most violent dog on Earth inside the main cabin considering the risk for maulings and extremely expensive litigation.


We lived in an apt complex that didn't allow "aggressive breeds". I can't imagine an airline allowing a pit bull on a plane sitting next to people. I bet the owner registered it as whatever the mix is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Usually the dog has to fit in a carrier under the seat.

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/pets-in-cabin


Exactly. Sounds like the OP is lying.


Why would I be lying about this?? I was shocked. I'm actually going to lodge a complaint with Alaska today.


Why would you lodge a complaint? It had literally no impact on you.


My second thought was this. My first thought was, "Oooh! Was it kyoot?!"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Usually the dog has to fit in a carrier under the seat.

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/pets-in-cabin


Exactly. Sounds like the OP is lying.


Why would I be lying about this?? I was shocked. I'm actually going to lodge a complaint with Alaska today.


By all means, please do so. If the airline infringed its own rules, you have to complain, so they can retrain their staff.
It's very important.

But because you inserted the name of the breed, instead of just saying this dog was not in a carrier and seemed too large for the weight limit... you come across as a crazy anti-pitbull person, and you lose crediblity.

So next time, when you want to complain, only complain about actually disallowed things: weight, carrier. The breed is immaterial.



Whatever. I'd rather have a beagle sitting next to me.


You lose credibility when you embrace fear-mongering tactics. I foster dogs. The beagles were all very vocal! The pit mixes I fostered were sweet and docile. So after those experiences, I cannot say I'd rather have a beagle next to me!

The rules are there for a reason, so everyone can be treated the same and not impede other people's enjoyment of the flight. You don't need to look like an ignorant moron and whine that it's a pitbull. That won't get you anywhere. You CAN, and SHOULD, speak up if the dog isn't in its carrier or seems too heavy/large for the regulations.



How many beagles have killed children? I can show you reams of articles of pit bulls killing people.


Any dog or person can kill.


Show me one beagle that has killed a human being.
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