There was a pit bull on a plane with me yesterday

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dh brought a large pit bull mix on a flight once and I was similarly horrified (before we were married) and couldn’t believe the airline allowed it. I would not want to be next to him on that flight.

He was giving up the dog to a family member actually bc I wouldn’t allow him to keep it when we moved in together (lots of little kids around). Flame flame away.

I suspect the woman had ‘service papers’ for the dog, op. The dog doesn’t necessarily need a jacket.

They don't need "service papers" either.

The ignorance on this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

I didn't say "most" service dogs are from shelters - or that most dogs from shelters become service dogs. Perhaps learn a little logic before you spout off next time.

I work in this field so perhaps I know a bit more about all this than you do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

I didn't say "most" service dogs are from shelters - or that most dogs from shelters become service dogs. Perhaps learn a little logic before you spout off next time.

I work in this field so perhaps I know a bit more about all this than you do.

You said plenty. Perphast don't argue semantics when it's clear what you meant. What field do you work in? Why be vague if you want to probe a point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

I didn't say "most" service dogs are from shelters - or that most dogs from shelters become service dogs. Perhaps learn a little logic before you spout off next time.

I work in this field so perhaps I know a bit more about all this than you do.

You said plenty. Perphast don't argue semantics when it's clear what you meant. What field do you work in? Why be vague if you want to probe a point?

"Perphast" just STFU when you're dead wrong and being corrected by someone who both knows and does better.

-DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

I didn't say "most" service dogs are from shelters - or that most dogs from shelters become service dogs. Perhaps learn a little logic before you spout off next time.

I work in this field so perhaps I know a bit more about all this than you do.

You said plenty. Perphast don't argue semantics when it's clear what you meant. What field do you work in? Why be vague if you want to probe a point?

"Perphast" just STFU when you're dead wrong and being corrected by someone who both knows and does better.

-DP

Take your own advice cupcake and STFU. No one asked you to chime in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd rather sit next to the dog than next to most people on airplanes.

+ 1. Especially the meanies on this thread!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd rather sit next to the dog than next to most people on airplanes.

+ 1. Especially the meanies on this thread!

Feel free to charter a private plane and put 5 dogs on there if you like. No one is stopping you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday on an Alaska Airlines cross country flight a woman got on with a pit mix. The dog was huge, it wasn't wearing a service vest and tugging at the leash and whining for the entire boarding process. She sat a few rows behind me but they made an announcement that it was an entirely full flight so I doubt the dog had its own seat. There is absolutely no way this was a service dog. How on earth was this allowed? If that dog was next to me on a six hour flight I would have flipped the eff out. People have lost their minds.

And?

You lived to tell the tale, didn’t you?

Are you normally a whiny little beeotch?

[Anonymous]

“The following Brachycephalic breeds and breed mixtures are prohibited from flying in the cargo compartment on Alaska Airlines:

Dogs
American Pit Bull, American Staffordshire Terrier…..

Why are these breeds allowed to fly in the cabin if they are prohibited from flying in the cargo compartment?

Brachycephalic or "short-nosed" breeds are always at a higher risk of respiratory distress as compared to other breeds and careful consideration should be taken when planning travel. Should you choose to travel with these pets on an airplane, it will still be allowed under the continual care of their owner while in cabin.”

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/banfield-qa#breeds-allowed-cabin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday on an Alaska Airlines cross country flight a woman got on with a pit mix. The dog was huge, it wasn't wearing a service vest and tugging at the leash and whining for the entire boarding process. She sat a few rows behind me but they made an announcement that it was an entirely full flight so I doubt the dog had its own seat. There is absolutely no way this was a service dog. How on earth was this allowed? If that dog was next to me on a six hour flight I would have flipped the eff out. People have lost their minds.

And?

You lived to tell the tale, didn’t you?

Are you normally a whiny little beeotch?

Are you normally an obnoxious bully?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“The following Brachycephalic breeds and breed mixtures are prohibited from flying in the cargo compartment on Alaska Airlines:

Dogs
American Pit Bull, American Staffordshire Terrier…..

Why are these breeds allowed to fly in the cabin if they are prohibited from flying in the cargo compartment?

Brachycephalic or "short-nosed" breeds are always at a higher risk of respiratory distress as compared to other breeds and careful consideration should be taken when planning travel. Should you choose to travel with these pets on an airplane, it will still be allowed under the continual care of their owner while in cabin.”

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/policies/pets-traveling-with-pets/banfield-qa#breeds-allowed-cabin

Thanks for this. Now I know not to fly Alaska.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband once had to sit next to a ginormous, old, slobbering German shepherd on a cross country flight.

My husband isn’t a fan of dogs (was bitten as a child) and has dog allergies, yet he had to sit next to this dog for 5+ hours.

It wasn’t wearing a vest and the person traveling with the dog didn’t have any obvious issues. They basically ignored the dog the entire flight.

There should be a rule that you need to buy all 3 seats if you plan to put your big dog in the middle seat.

MOST of the things service animals help with are invisible. you only think about guide dogs for the blind. But dogs do a zillion other things for people that you wouldn't "see." I'm sure your husband doesn't "look" allergic to dogs. By all means if your husband had a bad allergy he should have asked for his own accommodation but apparently he didn't.

I really hated that comment by PP because of what you say. Most people who use service dogs don't have a visible disability. Medical alert dogs are some of the most common and you generally can't see what they're trained to do unless the person is having an active episode. Other thing I dislike is that you should be required to buy a whole row of seats to travel with a service dog. That's not legal, the dog is considered a piece of medical equipment. Do some people choose to do that or would it be a good idea to seat the person/dog in the bulkhead or next to open seats? Sure. But you can't tell someone with a disability they are required to spend 3x as much on a ticket to travel. If you have an allergy you can certainly ask to be moved, I am sure someone on the flight would be happy to sit next to a dog, I know I would. And so what they ignored the dog? That's because it is working! If someone were coddling their dog the whole time the naysayers would say it's probably fake because service dogs are almost statue-like. Last point, it's a German Shepherd? Well ok, that's one of the "Fab 4" breeds of the service dog world, so that totally checks out. I can kinda see the wariness about a pit, but a Golden/Lab/Shepherd/Poodle? Come on now, those guys are the pros.

There are plenty of pit bull service dogs, too. It's a whole thing, finding good service dog candidates in shelters and giving them - and their owners - that opportunity. They aren't all dogs from shelters, but plenty are.

I'm glad OP somehow survived that flight. The stories she'll tell, about a dog who exists and didn't do anything the whole time they were in the air.

Really, really not. I know in this MAGA era you can just say anything that pops into your head without any consideration for whether it's actually true. Most service dogs don't come from shelters either. Perhaps the BS emotional support "service dog" do but not actual service dogs that cost upwards of 10K to train and raise to do the job.

Gotta love how you're ableist, anti-pit and wrong, all at the same time.

Plenty of service dogs come from shelters. Not all dogs are suited for all types of service, but many can be trained to perform service tasks, which means they meet the criteria for service animals.

Just because you're ableist and think that someone has to be visibly disabled *to you* doesn't mean that their service dog isn't performing a necessary service task. Pits are great for alerting low blood sugar, and other "invisible disability" related tasks.

Try minding your own business, if you're not willing to educate yourself. You're slamming "MAGA" while sounding just like them, talking judgmental nonsense out of your ignorant ass...

You know there are vanishingly few "low blood sugar" alert dogs for adults, right? Because we have CGMs for that these days (and have for a number of years). Yes, if parents are willing, some diabetic children will get Diabetes Alert Dogs. Those dogs certainly ease the transition into life as a diabetic. But these kids are not getting $25,000 pit bulls. So stop with the whole "pits are super service dogs" and "no one would ever try to pass their pet off as a service dog."

Is it possible that this Alaska Airlines dog was a true service dog? Yes. Is it probable? No. It is way more likely that it was an emotional support type of animal.

[Anonymous]

This seems like a non-issue and I’m not sure why someone bumped such an old thread. Op didn’t even notice, clearly this dog was better behaved than most children (and perhaps adults, especially some of the rabid anti-pit pps!), so I’m not sure why the fuss.