Spin Off - Do a Kids’ Parents Political Views Impact You Allowing A Friendship?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You would have absolutely no idea who I vote for. I have no need to broadcast my choice nor do I care who you vote for unless you’re extreme one way or the other. If you are, yes I’m going to avoid the crazy but my kids can be friends with whomever they want.

I don’t support either because they’re both awful but I will have to vote for one of them. You will never know who.

If your kid knows, then I know. Kids talk.

Kid doesn't know.

I wonder why…🤔

Because I don't discuss politics with a 5 year old. Sorry if you do but I don't. You do you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will we ever grow and learn if we don't open up to sincere requests for friendship?

Friendships with the children of people who support trump? Hard pass! That’s not an area in which I’m looking to cultivate growth in my children.

Maybe they'd learn and grow from a friendship with you/your kid. This is the reality most of life for most of us who are religious and racial minorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would have absolutely no idea who I vote for. I have no need to broadcast my choice nor do I care who you vote for unless you’re extreme one way or the other. If you are, yes I’m going to avoid the crazy but my kids can be friends with whomever they want.

I don’t support either because they’re both awful but I will have to vote for one of them. You will never know who.

If your kid knows, then I know. Kids talk.

Kid doesn't know.

I wonder why…🤔

Because I don't discuss politics with a 5 year old. Sorry if you do but I don't. You do you.

I took my then 5 and 7 year old daughters to the poll with me when I cast my vote for Hilary Clinton.
They are very clear on my politics and values.

Too bad you support trump and your values suck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will we ever grow and learn if we don't open up to sincere requests for friendship?

Friendships with the children of people who support trump? Hard pass! That’s not an area in which I’m looking to cultivate growth in my children.

Maybe they'd learn and grow from a friendship with you/your kid. This is the reality most of life for most of us who are religious and racial minorities.

Maybe they would, but I’m not raising my children to provide unpaid labor to educate the children of people who should already know better. However, I don’t judge you if you’re fine with your children providing that service.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In 2016 we cut off all contact with my in-laws due to their vocal support of Trump and his racist policies. My middle school children have had zero contact with their grandparents on that side since they were in preschool. My only regret is we didn’t do it sooner.

As for friends here we do not socialize with Trump supporters, we don’t go to their homes and they’re not welcome in ours. Our kids are friendly with everyone at school but we have been clear with them that we aren’t welcoming those whose views we find abhorrent into our home.

Is this how you propose Democrats in government act if he wins? This is lunacy. The predicate of our country is compromise. Hating and demonizing the opposition is exactly what you accuse them of and you are doing the same thing. It’s so counterproductive to moving any liberal (or any) goals forward.

Where did PP say that? Nobody here is talking about how "Democrats in government" should act. Nor is anyone talking about hate.

NP here. I work with people of all different views, I am friendly with my neighbors who hold views I reject. Those are not voluntary relationships: we are all just trying to get along so we can do the things we need to do. I never bring up politics, and I keep it bland when they do. We get along fine.

But friends? People who I am around by choice, who I would invite into my home, let drive my kids or be around my kids for a sleepover? Potentially vacation with? Those need to be people whose values I respect. Life is too short for anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How will we ever grow and learn if we don't open up to sincere requests for friendship?

Friendships with the children of people who support trump? Hard pass! That’s not an area in which I’m looking to cultivate growth in my children.

Maybe they'd learn and grow from a friendship with you/your kid. This is the reality most of life for most of us who are religious and racial minorities.

Maybe they would, but I’m not raising my children to provide unpaid labor to educate the children of people who should already know better. However, I don’t judge you if you’re fine with your children providing that service.

It's not really the kids...the adults will learn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2016 we cut off all contact with my in-laws due to their vocal support of Trump and his racist policies. My middle school children have had zero contact with their grandparents on that side since they were in preschool. My only regret is we didn’t do it sooner.

As for friends here we do not socialize with Trump supporters, we don’t go to their homes and they’re not welcome in ours. Our kids are friendly with everyone at school but we have been clear with them that we aren’t welcoming those whose views we find abhorrent into our home.

Is this how you propose Democrats in government act if he wins? This is lunacy. The predicate of our country is compromise. Hating and demonizing the opposition is exactly what you accuse them of and you are doing the same thing. It’s so counterproductive to moving any liberal (or any) goals forward.

Where did PP say that? Nobody here is talking about how "Democrats in government" should act. Nor is anyone talking about hate.

NP here. I work with people of all different views, I am friendly with my neighbors who hold views I reject. Those are not voluntary relationships: we are all just trying to get along so we can do the things we need to do. I never bring up politics, and I keep it bland when they do. We get along fine.

But friends? People who I am around by choice, who I would invite into my home, let drive my kids or be around my kids for a sleepover? Potentially vacation with? Those need to be people whose values I respect. Life is too short for anything else.

DP. This sort of thinking used to be considered over the top to me until I saw personally what the values and morals of kids are whose parents are Trump supporters. It is not politics. I agree with you - it is values and morals and what they say and teach their kids and teens and those teens have shallow values. Focused only on money, status, social climbing, make bigoted comments, etc…

[Anonymous]

Personal politics shall never interfere with a relationship, ESPECIALLY between kids. Nothing else to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personal politics shall never interfere with a relationship, ESPECIALLY between kids. Nothing else to say.

That’s your OPINION and you’re entitled to it.

What I know for certain:
If you are a trump supporter, your child has a snowball’s chance in hell of befriending my children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2016 we cut off all contact with my in-laws due to their vocal support of Trump and his racist policies. My middle school children have had zero contact with their grandparents on that side since they were in preschool. My only regret is we didn’t do it sooner.

As for friends here we do not socialize with Trump supporters, we don’t go to their homes and they’re not welcome in ours. Our kids are friendly with everyone at school but we have been clear with them that we aren’t welcoming those whose views we find abhorrent into our home.

Is this how you propose Democrats in government act if he wins? This is lunacy. The predicate of our country is compromise. Hating and demonizing the opposition is exactly what you accuse them of and you are doing the same thing. It’s so counterproductive to moving any liberal (or any) goals forward.

This woman is a lunatic and I know more than one just like her. You can bet she wouldn't be cutting the grandparents out if she thought she might inherit some money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know the voting preferences of most parents. I have an equal dislike for all adults who wear their politics like a badge of honor. I imagine most people I relate with are moderates from both parties. People I avoid are those who apply the term ‘hate’ to anyone who thinks differently from them.

This. Never cared to look up the politics of any of my kids’ friends’ parents. Can’t imagine refusing a play date cause the kids’ parents have different political views. It’s interesting how people always look for things that divide them, to try to stick to their “own people”. It stopped being acceptable to differentiate on basis of skin color, religion, ethnicity.

But OP, change your OP to replace “political view” to “Jewish” or “Asian” or “white” or “Muslim” or “Serb” or “Croat” and see how awful it reads.

It’s pretty much the same exclusion of “other”, just the criteria for identifying “your tribe” shifted to what is now more politically correct and acceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know the voting preferences of most parents. I have an equal dislike for all adults who wear their politics like a badge of honor. I imagine most people I relate with are moderates from both parties. People I avoid are those who apply the term ‘hate’ to anyone who thinks differently from them.

This. Never cared to look up the politics of any of my kids’ friends’ parents. Can’t imagine refusing a play date cause the kids’ parents have different political views. It’s interesting how people always look for things that divide them, to try to stick to their “own people”. It stopped being acceptable to differentiate on basis of skin color, religion, ethnicity.

But OP, change your OP to replace “political view” to “Jewish” or “Asian” or “white” or “Muslim” or “Serb” or “Croat” and see how awful it reads.

It’s pretty much the same exclusion of “other”, just the criteria for identifying “your tribe” shifted to what is now more politically correct and acceptable.

One is a personal choice -political leanings and the other is an unchangeable characteristic that doesn't impart any moral value to the person. I do not have to be friends with anyone i don't want to be. Its discrimination to form opinions based on someones immutable racial and physical characteristics. Peoples political choices are just that, choices. Those who vote for certain legislation and support candidates have shown what is important to them and who they are. I wouldn't be friends with those who are catholic church abuse apologists etc either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know the voting preferences of most parents. I have an equal dislike for all adults who wear their politics like a badge of honor. I imagine most people I relate with are moderates from both parties. People I avoid are those who apply the term ‘hate’ to anyone who thinks differently from them.

This. Never cared to look up the politics of any of my kids’ friends’ parents. Can’t imagine refusing a play date cause the kids’ parents have different political views. It’s interesting how people always look for things that divide them, to try to stick to their “own people”. It stopped being acceptable to differentiate on basis of skin color, religion, ethnicity.

But OP, change your OP to replace “political view” to “Jewish” or “Asian” or “white” or “Muslim” or “Serb” or “Croat” and see how awful it reads.

It’s pretty much the same exclusion of “other”, just the criteria for identifying “your tribe” shifted to what is now more politically correct and acceptable.

One is a personal choice -political leanings and the other is an unchangeable characteristic that doesn't impart any moral value to the person. I do not have to be friends with anyone i don't want to be. Its discrimination to form opinions based on someones immutable racial and physical characteristics. Peoples political choices are just that, choices. Those who vote for certain legislation and support candidates have shown what is important to them and who they are. I wouldn't be friends with those who are catholic church abuse apologists etc either.

+100. I’m so tired of these trump supporting bigots trying to claim that they’re the victims of discrimination. Your struggle is not the same as oppressed and marginalized groups because you CHOSE this life! Now, you will suffer the consequences.

[Anonymous]

I am tolerant of a wide range of beliefs, OP. My family runs the gamut, so I've had years of experience talking with people with opinions different from mine.

Trump is a rare exception. I can deal with socialists and communists and religious conservative (even my white supremacist grandmother), as long as they're courteous and don't want to hurt people or overthrow governments. I reject nasty, rude bullies and wannabe dictators who set their mob on innocent people, want state control over media and set the army on the people's elected representatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know the voting preferences of most parents. I have an equal dislike for all adults who wear their politics like a badge of honor. I imagine most people I relate with are moderates from both parties. People I avoid are those who apply the term ‘hate’ to anyone who thinks differently from them.

This. Never cared to look up the politics of any of my kids’ friends’ parents. Can’t imagine refusing a play date cause the kids’ parents have different political views. It’s interesting how people always look for things that divide them, to try to stick to their “own people”. It stopped being acceptable to differentiate on basis of skin color, religion, ethnicity.

But OP, change your OP to replace “political view” to “Jewish” or “Asian” or “white” or “Muslim” or “Serb” or “Croat” and see how awful it reads.

It’s pretty much the same exclusion of “other”, just the criteria for identifying “your tribe” shifted to what is now more politically correct and acceptable.

DP. The Indian woman who is a Trump supporter hosts meetings to blackball people from her club(s) notice the plural. Yuck. Her friends who are also Trump supporters do the same with her. It may not be related to politics but it definitely shows their character and the two seem to go together.