Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s reality for Republicans: Purge all you want, but the majority of citizens who vote, don’t buy what you’re selling. You’re a bunch of crybabies who can’t accept that you keep losing national elections specifically because the majority of Americans are disgusted by your policies and mentality. I say that as someone who loathes Democrats and would absolutely vote Republican if they weren’t such garbage humans who use fear-mongering, racism, bigotry, misogyny and hate as their platform.

That and the fact that you’ve allowed a criminal pig like Donald Trump to take over the party.

Most people are against non-citizens voting.

Ok, so the solution is the break the law and let non-citizens vote?

1. No, the solution is not for Youngkin to break the law. If VA has a problem— and no one has showed that they did with anyone but Younkins’ son— who was correctly prevented from voting— Youngkin has had over two years before the quiet period to address it. Why didn’t he address it before now?

FACT CHECK: there is no problem— voting records show ZERO noncitizens have voted since Youngkin became governor. None, nilch, nada, not any. No noncitizens voters. Although Younkin’s citizen minor son did try to commit voter fraud, which you seem fine with. If he were a noncitizen or poor brown kid, you’d be demanding jail time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/10/09/youngkin-noncitizen-voters-virginia/


2. If someone tries to go votes and is not eligible, they should be stopped, or have their vote tossed, and be prosecuted. Start with Youngkin’s kid, who tried to vote illegally. Prosecution number 1. But zero noncitizens have been prosecuted under Youngkin, because zero noncitizens have voted. You think Trump lite hasn’t look for noncitizens to prosecute? He didn’t find any.

3. Exactly nobody on here has said non-citizens should vote in federal elections. Quit trying to make fetch happen. Fetch isn’t happening. No one is saying noncitizens should be votingvoting. No one can show any noncitizen has voted in VA. What some localities like Takoma Park do with local elections only is on them. If you don’t like it, don’t live in Takoma Park. But, it’s a local issue Noncitizens voting in their local elections get a ballot with local elections only. They do not get a ballot with federal or state elections.

So yeah, PP— People are saying that if we’ve had NO noncitizens vote under Youngkin, then no laws have been broken. Except by Youngkin, who is violating federal law to solve a problem that objectively doesn't exist. If he strikes legal voters from the voting rolls in the process, that’s a feature of his criminal voter suppression, not a bug. I hope DOJ charges Youngkin from breaking federal law. And if they find a a single noncitizen voter, they can be charged and tried too.

I like that VA has a good governance, moderate, pro-business reputation and Reps like Kaine and Warner that do the job well, and focus on kitchen table issues are not culture wars BS and are not Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley grandstanders. I do not like this cynical attempt by Youngkin to get headlines and suppress legal VA voters and declaring VA has some big problem with voting integrity, when the fact check says we do not. If you want to pull this cr@p run for something in Florida. This just makes the state look Trumpy and bad.

2. If someone tries to go votes and is not eligible, they should be stopped, or have their vote tossed, and be prosecuted.

Which Youngkin is trying to do.

No. That is not the piece of what Youngkin is doing that’s illegal. It’s legal fine to turn away and prosecute illegal voters. And 95%+ of people would say so. No one on here says otherwise.

What’s illegal is culling the voting roles this close to ann election, especially when the state already has early, absentee and military voting underway. And thats not an opinion. That’s a fact- Youngkin’s actions are illegal.

Somewhere along the line, Republicans lost their minds and started substituting their opinions (I like that Youngkin is doing this) for facts a reality (it’s against the law). If you don’t like the quiet period, the solution is not to break the law— it’s to change the law. I don’t know why this is so hard for the “law and order” party to understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin committed voter fraud. You can’t “clean the voter rolls” within 90 days of the election date. It’s a federal law.

LOCK. HIM. UP.

Isn’t it also illegal to vote if you’re a non-citizen?

I often work remotely and am not checking my maildrop box more than once or twice a month. Other people go on two week cruises, or visit family in other states in advance of the holidays.

It's illegal to remove you from voter rolls this close to an election. The citizens who were away from home or missed something in the mail but who were expecting federal law to be followed are not planning to vote illegally -- instead, you and the GOP are disenfranchising them illegally.

It's only illegal to remove eligible voters 90 days before. Non citizens were never eligible in the first place, therefore no law is being broken to remove them.

+1 Democrats hysterically demanding that a lawfully elected governor be handcuffed by the FBI and jailed for stopping illegal immigrants and non-citizens from voting is almost unbelievable. Almost.

The same people who self-righteously and smugly claim to be protecting democracy are enraged that illegal immigrants and non-citizens might be stopped from voting for democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:If illegals don’t vote, why the Dem effort to register them to vote at the DMVS?

Please cite to efforts by Dems to register people who are not citizens to vote at DMVs. I have seen efforts to register citizens who are applying for real ID or for a first time license and are over 18— it’s convenient to register them if they are there with their birth certificate or passport— which proves citizenship. I have seen zero evidence of any effort to register noncitizens to vote. Link please. (And not DC— that’s their local-not federal- election issue). Virginia. Let’s see the evidence for Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin committed voter fraud. You can’t “clean the voter rolls” within 90 days of the election date. It’s a federal law.

LOCK. HIM. UP.

Isn’t it also illegal to vote if you’re a non-citizen?

I often work remotely and am not checking my maildrop box more than once or twice a month. Other people go on two week cruises, or visit family in other states in advance of the holidays.

It's illegal to remove you from voter rolls this close to an election. The citizens who were away from home or missed something in the mail but who were expecting federal law to be followed are not planning to vote illegally -- instead, you and the GOP are disenfranchising them illegally.

It's only illegal to remove eligible voters 90 days before. Non citizens were never eligible in the first place, therefore no law is being broken to remove them.

+1 Democrats hysterically demanding that a lawfully elected governor be handcuffed by the FBI and jailed for stopping illegal immigrants and non-citizens from voting is almost unbelievable. Almost.

The same people who self-righteously and smugly claim to be protecting democracy are enraged that illegal immigrants and non-citizens might be stopped from voting for democrats.

If what he is doing is illegal and an attempt to disenfranchise legal voters so he can deliver states electoral college voted to trump then he should be handcuffed by the FBI. Youngkin is a lying corrupt MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin committed voter fraud. You can’t “clean the voter rolls” within 90 days of the election date. It’s a federal law.

LOCK. HIM. UP.

Isn’t it also illegal to vote if you’re a non-citizen?

I often work remotely and am not checking my maildrop box more than once or twice a month. Other people go on two week cruises, or visit family in other states in advance of the holidays.

It's illegal to remove you from voter rolls this close to an election. The citizens who were away from home or missed something in the mail but who were expecting federal law to be followed are not planning to vote illegally -- instead, you and the GOP are disenfranchising them illegally.

It's only illegal to remove eligible voters 90 days before. Non citizens were never eligible in the first place, therefore no law is being broken to remove them.

+1 Democrats hysterically demanding that a lawfully elected governor be handcuffed by the FBI and jailed for stopping illegal immigrants and non-citizens from voting is almost unbelievable. Almost.

The same people who self-righteously and smugly claim to be protecting democracy are enraged that illegal immigrants and non-citizens might be stopped from voting for democrats.

We want Youngkin to follow federal law. That’s it.

But also, non citizens are not voting in VA. Zero noncitizens have been found trying to vote since 2021. Not one single person. See the link to the fact check above. So what’s the urgent problem that it requires Youngkin to break the law? It’s not to stop noncitizen voters— because there are none. It will stop newly naturalized citizens from voting legally though. Which is what Youngkin wants.

Such a POS. VA tends to get solid, normal, moderate leaders and has a reputation for being pro-business, moderate socially and not having nutso people in charge. Youngkin was a huge mistake. He makes the whole state look bad. So glad he’s term limited. We aren’t Florida, NC or TX. I don’t want to live in a state with clown car , Trump humping leaders.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin committed voter fraud. You can’t “clean the voter rolls” within 90 days of the election date. It’s a federal law.

LOCK. HIM. UP.

Isn’t it also illegal to vote if you’re a non-citizen?

I often work remotely and am not checking my maildrop box more than once or twice a month. Other people go on two week cruises, or visit family in other states in advance of the holidays.

It's illegal to remove you from voter rolls this close to an election. The citizens who were away from home or missed something in the mail but who were expecting federal law to be followed are not planning to vote illegally -- instead, you and the GOP are disenfranchising them illegally.

It's only illegal to remove eligible voters 90 days before. Non citizens were never eligible in the first place, therefore no law is being broken to remove them.

We are telling you what will actually happen: Glenn Youngkin’s illegal tampering with voters rolls within 90 days of the election WILL remove naturalized American citizens who received their license when they were still non-citizens (eg, on a Green Card or student visa or under a previous name prior to marriage).

This is why Glenn Young is an un-American criminal.

Please repeat this: “Glenn Youngkin is a criminal who broke federal election laws.”

Nope.

- All the voter roll entries removed were of people who affirmatively attested that they were not US citizens, then when specifically given a second chance to correct that information if it were in error, declined to do so.

- The date of said affirmations was on or after the registration date in the voter rolls.

- This means an ineligible person had been erroneously registered.

- Erroneous registrations are not covered by the 90-day quiet period under NVRA.

- The League of Women Voters and the DOJ are able to produce no citizens who were negatively impacted by the removal of these records.

- Any removed person who has since become a citizen may register to vote in Virginia right now.

- The removal of these records was not an arbitrary act, but the lawful execution of legislation signed in 2006 by then-Governor Tim Kaine.

- The removals are a fait accompli; it is not a potential action that can be enjoined. The records are no longer in the voter rolls.

- The remedy being demanded is restoration of confirmed, erroneous noncitizen entries on Virginia voter rolls.

- Knowingly adding noncitizens to Virginia's voter rolls is a state felony.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin committed voter fraud. You can’t “clean the voter rolls” within 90 days of the election date. It’s a federal law.

LOCK. HIM. UP.

Isn’t it also illegal to vote if you’re a non-citizen?

I often work remotely and am not checking my maildrop box more than once or twice a month. Other people go on two week cruises, or visit family in other states in advance of the holidays.

It's illegal to remove you from voter rolls this close to an election. The citizens who were away from home or missed something in the mail but who were expecting federal law to be followed are not planning to vote illegally -- instead, you and the GOP are disenfranchising them illegally.

It's only illegal to remove eligible voters 90 days before. Non citizens were never eligible in the first place, therefore no law is being broken to remove them.

We are telling you what will actually happen: Glenn Youngkin’s illegal tampering with voters rolls within 90 days of the election WILL remove naturalized American citizens who received their license when they were still non-citizens (eg, on a Green Card or student visa or under a previous name prior to marriage).

This is why Glenn Young is an un-American criminal.

Please repeat this: “Glenn Youngkin is a criminal who broke federal election laws.”

Nope.

- All the voter roll entries removed were of people who affirmatively attested that they were not US citizens, then when specifically given a second chance to correct that information if it were in error, declined to do so.

- The date of said affirmations was on or after the registration date in the voter rolls.

- This means an ineligible person had been erroneously registered.

- Erroneous registrations are not covered by the 90-day quiet period under NVRA.

- The League of Women Voters and the DOJ are able to produce no citizens who were negatively impacted by the removal of these records.

- Any removed person who has since become a citizen may register to vote in Virginia right now.

- The removal of these records was not an arbitrary act, but the lawful execution of legislation signed in 2006 by then-Governor Tim Kaine.

- The removals are a fait accompli; it is not a potential action that can be enjoined. The records are no longer in the voter rolls.

- The remedy being demanded is restoration of confirmed, erroneous noncitizen entries on Virginia voter rolls.

- Knowingly adding noncitizens to Virginia's voter rolls is a state felony.

Thanks for sharing the reality of the situation.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin committed voter fraud. You can’t “clean the voter rolls” within 90 days of the election date. It’s a federal law.

LOCK. HIM. UP.

Isn’t it also illegal to vote if you’re a non-citizen?

I often work remotely and am not checking my maildrop box more than once or twice a month. Other people go on two week cruises, or visit family in other states in advance of the holidays.

It's illegal to remove you from voter rolls this close to an election. The citizens who were away from home or missed something in the mail but who were expecting federal law to be followed are not planning to vote illegally -- instead, you and the GOP are disenfranchising them illegally.

It's only illegal to remove eligible voters 90 days before. Non citizens were never eligible in the first place, therefore no law is being broken to remove them.

We are telling you what will actually happen: Glenn Youngkin’s illegal tampering with voters rolls within 90 days of the election WILL remove naturalized American citizens who received their license when they were still non-citizens (eg, on a Green Card or student visa or under a previous name prior to marriage).

This is why Glenn Young is an un-American criminal.

Please repeat this: “Glenn Youngkin is a criminal who broke federal election laws.”

Nope.

- All the voter roll entries removed were of people who affirmatively attested that they were not US citizens, then when specifically given a second chance to correct that information if it were in error, declined to do so.

- The date of said affirmations was on or after the registration date in the voter rolls.

- This means an ineligible person had been erroneously registered.

- Erroneous registrations are not covered by the 90-day quiet period under NVRA.

- The League of Women Voters and the DOJ are able to produce no citizens who were negatively impacted by the removal of these records.

- Any removed person who has since become a citizen may register to vote in Virginia right now.

- The removal of these records was not an arbitrary act, but the lawful execution of legislation signed in 2006 by then-Governor Tim Kaine.

- The removals are a fait accompli; it is not a potential action that can be enjoined. The records are no longer in the voter rolls.

- The remedy being demanded is restoration of confirmed, erroneous noncitizen entries on Virginia voter rolls.

- Knowingly adding noncitizens to Virginia's voter rolls is a state felony.

Thanks for sharing the reality of the situation.

The false reality. It is not lawful unless you think Youngkin is exempt from federal law. He knows very well what he is doing is illegal, and he doesn't care.

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Recommend folks read the actual complaint and not Youngkin's absurd talking points.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.561740/gov.uscourts.vaed.561740.1.0.pdf

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And they absolutely are removing citizens. They can't point to actual cases of noncitizens voting, and the think it's okay to repeatedly remove citizens from the rolls after they have proven citizenship multiple times. It's clear what their priority is.

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Anonymous wrote:And they absolutely are removing citizens. They can't point to actual cases of noncitizens voting, and the think it's okay to repeatedly remove citizens from the rolls after they have proven citizenship multiple times. It's clear what their priority is.

The DOJ plainly states that the Youngkin administration removed U.S. citizens from the voter rolls in late September:

The letter directs recipients who are in fact U.S. citizens and eligible to vote to complete and return an Affirmation of Citizenship form. The notice informs voters that, if they do not respond to the notice within 14 days, they will be removed from the list of registered voters. This process has led to U.S. citizens having their voter registrations cancelled.

The process laid out in the executive order formalized an ongoing list maintenance procedure that has been carried out into the quiet period, including at least as recently as late September.

Federal law prohibits politicians from purging US citizens from the voter rolls within 90 days of an election.

Glenn Youngkin is a criminal who committed voter fraud.

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Anonymous wrote:And they absolutely are removing citizens. They can't point to actual cases of noncitizens voting, and the think it's okay to repeatedly remove citizens from the rolls after they have proven citizenship multiple times. It's clear what their priority is.

The DOJ plainly states that the Youngkin administration removed U.S. citizens from the voter rolls in late September:

The letter directs recipients who are in fact U.S. citizens and eligible to vote to complete and return an Affirmation of Citizenship form. The notice informs voters that, if they do not respond to the notice within 14 days, they will be removed from the list of registered voters. This process has led to U.S. citizens having their voter registrations cancelled.

The process laid out in the executive order formalized an ongoing list maintenance procedure that has been carried out into the quiet period, including at least as recently as late September.

Federal law prohibits politicians from purging US citizens from the voter rolls within 90 days of an election.

Glenn Youngkin is a criminal who committed voter fraud.

What the DOJ claims and what the court decides are not necessarily the same. That's why we have trials.

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Anonymous wrote:I am guessing they are "inadvertently" removing citizens too. It happened to me in 2013, the last time we had a Republican governor.

They are

Serious question. Do you know this or are you assuming it’s true?

Nobody is providing any evidence to show it is true.

Here, let me write a post for you, with links, that you can ignore, since that’s how you’ve remained a Republican so far.

Alabama: “Republican Secretary of State Wes Allen in August announced an initiative “to remove noncitizens registered to vote in Alabama.” More than 3,000 people who had been previously issued noncitizen identification numbers will have their voter registration status made inactive and flagged for possible removal from the voter rolls. The Justice Department said both native-born and naturalized U.S. citizens, who are eligible to vote, received the letters saying their voting status was being made inactive.” https://www.wvtm13.com/article/justice-department-alabama-lawsuit-voter-rolls/62455133

Louisiana: with zero evidence, Gov Landry is sure that non-citizens are voting: https://lailluminator.com/2024/08/27/gov-landry-targets-noncitizens-in-louisiana-claiming-immigrants-pose-voter-fraud-risk/

Tennessee: only after a major outcry did they back off from their threat to remove over 14000 voters from the rolls. https://apnews.com/article/voting-citizenship-tennessee-7802df69609bc54eb55d9296f6321100

This happened in 2020 as well but the busy little bees who help massage Google results have effectively removed all those stories from view. I could go on, but it’s honestly pearls after swine since you won’t read it, much like the “I’m a rationale conservative thread” on which it’s been amply proven that Republicans like to choose their voters and suppress the rest.

People who receive a letter that they are a non-citizen and aren’t allowed to legally vote just have to provide proof they are a legal citizen. I have to provide proof to register to vote; why don’t other people have to do
so?

The vast majority of US citizens don’t have a notarized birth certificate

False, everyone has to have one of those to get a Real ID driver's license now. And they aren't "notarized". Are you even a US citizen?

Real ID is not a proof of US citizenship. Non-citizens who are in the U.S. legally (eg Green Card Holders) can also get a Real ID and they are not citizens who can vote in federal elections.

So there needs to be stricter voting standards than what are currently in place.

Perhaps 4-5 forms of ID required, and "in-person voting" only then. Maybe the dip the thumb in ink thing also.

It's appalling that many really poor countries have more strict and legitimate elections than we have here.

why? there isn't a problem. zero proof of significant voter fraud, and were there is, it is republicans.

So why aren't you for stricter rules then?

Why do you not want fair and transparent elections?

The ONLY way out of this fraud mess is to have everyone's vote recorded and publicly viewable online as to how they voted. That way EVERYONE can audit any election and count and verify the votes.

So let's do that. Only reason people would be against that is they want more fraud.

What in the Vladimir Putin

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Anonymous wrote:And they absolutely are removing citizens. They can't point to actual cases of noncitizens voting, and the think it's okay to repeatedly remove citizens from the rolls after they have proven citizenship multiple times. It's clear what their priority is.

The DOJ plainly states that the Youngkin administration removed U.S. citizens from the voter rolls in late September:

The letter directs recipients who are in fact U.S. citizens and eligible to vote to complete and return an Affirmation of Citizenship form. The notice informs voters that, if they do not respond to the notice within 14 days, they will be removed from the list of registered voters. This process has led to U.S. citizens having their voter registrations cancelled.

The process laid out in the executive order formalized an ongoing list maintenance procedure that has been carried out into the quiet period, including at least as recently as late September.

Federal law prohibits politicians from purging US citizens from the voter rolls within 90 days of an election.

Glenn Youngkin is a criminal who committed voter fraud.

What the DOJ claims and what the court decides are not necessarily the same. That's why we have trials.

You really think the DOJ is lying in their press release and court filing about “U.S. citizens having their voter registrations cancelled” due to Youngkin’s process?

Clearly they’ve already identified victims of Youngkin’s illegal actions.

When are you going to apologize to Virginia residents who were improperly purged by Youngkin?

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Anonymous wrote:I am guessing they are "inadvertently" removing citizens too. It happened to me in 2013, the last time we had a Republican governor.

“The agency alleges that Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin violated the NVRA when announcing and subsequently carrying out an executive order which required the election commissioner to regularly update the state’s voter lists to remove individuals who have been "identified as noncitizens," and had not responded to a request to verify their citizenship in 14 days.”

Were you identified as a non-citizen, and did you receive a request to verify your citizenship you didn’t respond to?

Because that’s what VA is doing. They are only removing voters who have been identified as non-citizens and haven’t responded to verify their citizenship.

Is there any evidence that non-citizens are voting?

The Overton Window has move so far on this issue that we accept as normal governmental action to solve a non-existent problem. This is voter suppression, pure and simple.

Yes, Washington, DC, allowed over 500 non-citizens to vote this year.

Non-citizens and dead voters vote Democratic everywhere. DOJ needs more of them in Virginia to keep the current administration in power. They couldn’t be more obvious with this.

Actually, Youngkin’s son voted illegally in 2021. In fact, he tried to vote illegally twice. Oddly, there were no consequences for him. Including young Mr. Youngkin, a single digit number of cases were documented.

Youngkin crime family.

Youngkin's young kin is a felon.