Revealing clothing

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Anonymous wrote:For the record women (and men) don't do things to make themselves look young purely for sexual attractiveness.

All humans have a background existential fear of death, aging is a sign that you see in the mirror every day that your clock has been ticking for a good while. Staying youthful and vibrant makes people feel like they're still in the population that MATTERS (unlike children and elderly who are spoken of like obligations instead of in the conversation themselves).

There are layers to all this but in the end humans are tribal and want to be accepted and 'in the room where its happening' figuratively. Being on trend/youthful/in fashion is to attract a mate sure but it is also, I think equally, just to feel relevant.

I think that what youre describing is the idea that men adn women don't dress attractively with the intention of literally finding someone to have sex with. But that doesn't mean other people don't view them the same way.

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Anonymous wrote:For the record women (and men) don't do things to make themselves look young purely for sexual attractiveness.

All humans have a background existential fear of death, aging is a sign that you see in the mirror every day that your clock has been ticking for a good while. Staying youthful and vibrant makes people feel like they're still in the population that MATTERS (unlike children and elderly who are spoken of like obligations instead of in the conversation themselves).

There are layers to all this but in the end humans are tribal and want to be accepted and 'in the room where its happening' figuratively. Being on trend/youthful/in fashion is to attract a mate sure but it is also, I think equally, just to feel relevant.

I think that what youre describing is the idea that men adn women don't dress attractively with the intention of literally finding someone to have sex with. But that doesn't mean other people don't view them the same way.

If I lived my life entirely based on how other people were viewing me I would be pretty unhappy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the record women (and men) don't do things to make themselves look young purely for sexual attractiveness.

All humans have a background existential fear of death, aging is a sign that you see in the mirror every day that your clock has been ticking for a good while. Staying youthful and vibrant makes people feel like they're still in the population that MATTERS (unlike children and elderly who are spoken of like obligations instead of in the conversation themselves).

There are layers to all this but in the end humans are tribal and want to be accepted and 'in the room where its happening' figuratively. Being on trend/youthful/in fashion is to attract a mate sure but it is also, I think equally, just to feel relevant.

I think that what youre describing is the idea that men adn women don't dress attractively with the intention of literally finding someone to have sex with. But that doesn't mean other people don't view them the same way.

If I lived my life entirely based on how other people were viewing me I would be pretty unhappy

True, in general.

But also, I've lived my whole life making sure I don't walk around with my genitals displayed to strangers, and you know what... it's been pretty okay! No regrets!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why women need to wear revealing clothing in public but men survive fine without it? Would we be as open to men wearing revealing clothing in public? If they want to flaunt what they got, shouldn't we be more accepting to see male genitalia in public?

Because we have historically been trained to please/entertain them. They get to be comfortable and functional (see flat shoes shoes), without painting their face and nails, curling their hair etc.

It is a waste of women’s time, and we should stop wearing costumes to entertain them.

And historically we as women needed to do that to secure our financial well-being. But that hasn't been the case for a long time now. So surely you do understand that a vast majority of us dress any way we like because WE LIKE IT. I like to have long hair that is not gray. I like to have nicely manicured nails, I like to wear dresses.

If you are courting sexual attention from strangers, don’t complain that they treat you like a sex object.

Existing in public isn’t “courting sexual attention from strangers”. People have foot fetishes— is everyone in sandals “courting sexual attention” from them?

If you wear yoga pants that reveals your cameltoe, go braless or something low cut, you have to be aware that you are attracting sexual attention. Maybe it’s what you want - and that’s fine! personally I think all attractive women should dress like that… weirdly, not all do - it’s like some of them don’t want men to leer at them and objectify them.

What you seem to not understand is that one attracts sexual attention simply by existing in public. Like I said— foot fetishes are well documented. My sandals are probably turning someone on. That person is probably leering and objectifying me. So should I never go out in sandals because some dude likes feet? Why are my clothing choices supposed to be constrained by the poor behavior (leering) of men?

there's a difference between saying, "there are countless weird men with bizarre fetishes so I can't stop living my life and wearing things that are comfortable to avoid being seen as too alluring for [insert bizarre fetish here]" and walking down a street with your vagina fully displayed in your yoga pants, or wearing a top or bra that is specifically marketed as making you more sexually appealing.

Anyway, it all comes down to context. I don't think even the perviest of DCUM would say that a cameltoe or going braless at work is appropriate. Same way it's not appropriate for a male attorney to go to a hearing with no tie and the top six buttons undone, or his 5-inch running shorts. If you're capable of understanding that some contexts require different outfits, then you understand the idea behind people's belief that some clothes are too revealing to wear in public. You're just being difficult.

I don’t think there are any bras marketed any other way than making people look and feel attractive. So your point seems to be that if advertising agencies and a creepy man think something is sexual, that should constrain my choices?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why women need to wear revealing clothing in public but men survive fine without it? Would we be as open to men wearing revealing clothing in public? If they want to flaunt what they got, shouldn't we be more accepting to see male genitalia in public?

Because we have historically been trained to please/entertain them. They get to be comfortable and functional (see flat shoes shoes), without painting their face and nails, curling their hair etc.

It is a waste of women’s time, and we should stop wearing costumes to entertain them.

And historically we as women needed to do that to secure our financial well-being. But that hasn't been the case for a long time now. So surely you do understand that a vast majority of us dress any way we like because WE LIKE IT. I like to have long hair that is not gray. I like to have nicely manicured nails, I like to wear dresses.

If you are courting sexual attention from strangers, don’t complain that they treat you like a sex object.

Existing in public isn’t “courting sexual attention from strangers”. People have foot fetishes— is everyone in sandals “courting sexual attention” from them?

If you wear yoga pants that reveals your cameltoe, go braless or something low cut, you have to be aware that you are attracting sexual attention. Maybe it’s what you want - and that’s fine! personally I think all attractive women should dress like that… weirdly, not all do - it’s like some of them don’t want men to leer at them and objectify them.

What you seem to not understand is that one attracts sexual attention simply by existing in public. Like I said— foot fetishes are well documented. My sandals are probably turning someone on. That person is probably leering and objectifying me. So should I never go out in sandals because some dude likes feet? Why are my clothing choices supposed to be constrained by the poor behavior (leering) of men?

there's a difference between saying, "there are countless weird men with bizarre fetishes so I can't stop living my life and wearing things that are comfortable to avoid being seen as too alluring for [insert bizarre fetish here]" and walking down a street with your vagina fully displayed in your yoga pants, or wearing a top or bra that is specifically marketed as making you more sexually appealing.

Anyway, it all comes down to context. I don't think even the perviest of DCUM would say that a cameltoe or going braless at work is appropriate. Same way it's not appropriate for a male attorney to go to a hearing with no tie and the top six buttons undone, or his 5-inch running shorts. If you're capable of understanding that some contexts require different outfits, then you understand the idea behind people's belief that some clothes are too revealing to wear in public. You're just being difficult.

I don’t think there are any bras marketed any other way than making people look and feel attractive. So your point seems to be that if advertising agencies and a creepy man think something is sexual, that should constrain my choices?

Most of my bras are not very sexually alluring. Apparently you don't know a lot abotu women's undergarments.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why women need to wear revealing clothing in public but men survive fine without it? Would we be as open to men wearing revealing clothing in public? If they want to flaunt what they got, shouldn't we be more accepting to see male genitalia in public?

Because we have historically been trained to please/entertain them. They get to be comfortable and functional (see flat shoes shoes), without painting their face and nails, curling their hair etc.

It is a waste of women’s time, and we should stop wearing costumes to entertain them.

And historically we as women needed to do that to secure our financial well-being. But that hasn't been the case for a long time now. So surely you do understand that a vast majority of us dress any way we like because WE LIKE IT. I like to have long hair that is not gray. I like to have nicely manicured nails, I like to wear dresses.

If you are courting sexual attention from strangers, don’t complain that they treat you like a sex object.

Existing in public isn’t “courting sexual attention from strangers”. People have foot fetishes— is everyone in sandals “courting sexual attention” from them?

If you wear yoga pants that reveals your cameltoe, go braless or something low cut, you have to be aware that you are attracting sexual attention. Maybe it’s what you want - and that’s fine! personally I think all attractive women should dress like that… weirdly, not all do - it’s like some of them don’t want men to leer at them and objectify them.

What you seem to not understand is that one attracts sexual attention simply by existing in public. Like I said— foot fetishes are well documented. My sandals are probably turning someone on. That person is probably leering and objectifying me. So should I never go out in sandals because some dude likes feet? Why are my clothing choices supposed to be constrained by the poor behavior (leering) of men?

Your sandals are turning me on. A nicely shaped woman, wearing wedge Espadrilles does it for me…

https://soludos.com/products/soludos-womens-marseille_wedge-classic-black?currency=USD&variant=46485714731308&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=7355a0ac300b&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=21276925397&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=21276925397&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAApzfn0H5HylHLkTdsndPYkTBFU1b2

Hear that ladies—break out the wellies or a creep being creepy is on you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the record women (and men) don't do things to make themselves look young purely for sexual attractiveness.

All humans have a background existential fear of death, aging is a sign that you see in the mirror every day that your clock has been ticking for a good while. Staying youthful and vibrant makes people feel like they're still in the population that MATTERS (unlike children and elderly who are spoken of like obligations instead of in the conversation themselves).

There are layers to all this but in the end humans are tribal and want to be accepted and 'in the room where its happening' figuratively. Being on trend/youthful/in fashion is to attract a mate sure but it is also, I think equally, just to feel relevant.

I think that what youre describing is the idea that men adn women don't dress attractively with the intention of literally finding someone to have sex with. But that doesn't mean other people don't view them the same way.

If I lived my life entirely based on how other people were viewing me I would be pretty unhappy

True, in general.

But also, I've lived my whole life making sure I don't walk around with my genitals displayed to strangers, and you know what... it's been pretty okay! No regrets!

Well it's against the law to do that so I don't think either of us have to worry about it going that far

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why women need to wear revealing clothing in public but men survive fine without it? Would we be as open to men wearing revealing clothing in public? If they want to flaunt what they got, shouldn't we be more accepting to see male genitalia in public?

Because we have historically been trained to please/entertain them. They get to be comfortable and functional (see flat shoes shoes), without painting their face and nails, curling their hair etc.

It is a waste of women’s time, and we should stop wearing costumes to entertain them.

And historically we as women needed to do that to secure our financial well-being. But that hasn't been the case for a long time now. So surely you do understand that a vast majority of us dress any way we like because WE LIKE IT. I like to have long hair that is not gray. I like to have nicely manicured nails, I like to wear dresses.

If you are courting sexual attention from strangers, don’t complain that they treat you like a sex object.

Existing in public isn’t “courting sexual attention from strangers”. People have foot fetishes— is everyone in sandals “courting sexual attention” from them?

If you wear yoga pants that reveals your cameltoe, go braless or something low cut, you have to be aware that you are attracting sexual attention. Maybe it’s what you want - and that’s fine! personally I think all attractive women should dress like that… weirdly, not all do - it’s like some of them don’t want men to leer at them and objectify them.

What you seem to not understand is that one attracts sexual attention simply by existing in public. Like I said— foot fetishes are well documented. My sandals are probably turning someone on. That person is probably leering and objectifying me. So should I never go out in sandals because some dude likes feet? Why are my clothing choices supposed to be constrained by the poor behavior (leering) of men?

there's a difference between saying, "there are countless weird men with bizarre fetishes so I can't stop living my life and wearing things that are comfortable to avoid being seen as too alluring for [insert bizarre fetish here]" and walking down a street with your vagina fully displayed in your yoga pants, or wearing a top or bra that is specifically marketed as making you more sexually appealing.

Anyway, it all comes down to context. I don't think even the perviest of DCUM would say that a cameltoe or going braless at work is appropriate. Same way it's not appropriate for a male attorney to go to a hearing with no tie and the top six buttons undone, or his 5-inch running shorts. If you're capable of understanding that some contexts require different outfits, then you understand the idea behind people's belief that some clothes are too revealing to wear in public. You're just being difficult.

I don’t think there are any bras marketed any other way than making people look and feel attractive. So your point seems to be that if advertising agencies and a creepy man think something is sexual, that should constrain my choices?

Most of my bras are not very sexually alluring. Apparently you don't know a lot abotu women's undergarments.

The PP didn’t say sexually alluring. He said **marketed as** sexually appealing. Your bras are marketed to be unappealing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the record women (and men) don't do things to make themselves look young purely for sexual attractiveness.

All humans have a background existential fear of death, aging is a sign that you see in the mirror every day that your clock has been ticking for a good while. Staying youthful and vibrant makes people feel like they're still in the population that MATTERS (unlike children and elderly who are spoken of like obligations instead of in the conversation themselves).

There are layers to all this but in the end humans are tribal and want to be accepted and 'in the room where its happening' figuratively. Being on trend/youthful/in fashion is to attract a mate sure but it is also, I think equally, just to feel relevant.

I think that what youre describing is the idea that men adn women don't dress attractively with the intention of literally finding someone to have sex with. But that doesn't mean other people don't view them the same way.

If I lived my life entirely based on how other people were viewing me I would be pretty unhappy

True, in general.

But also, I've lived my whole life making sure I don't walk around with my genitals displayed to strangers, and you know what... it's been pretty okay! No regrets!

Well it's against the law to do that so I don't think either of us have to worry about it going that far

Legally, I can walk around with a cameltoe if I want to. I dont' want to.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why women need to wear revealing clothing in public but men survive fine without it? Would we be as open to men wearing revealing clothing in public? If they want to flaunt what they got, shouldn't we be more accepting to see male genitalia in public?

Because we have historically been trained to please/entertain them. They get to be comfortable and functional (see flat shoes shoes), without painting their face and nails, curling their hair etc.

It is a waste of women’s time, and we should stop wearing costumes to entertain them.

And historically we as women needed to do that to secure our financial well-being. But that hasn't been the case for a long time now. So surely you do understand that a vast majority of us dress any way we like because WE LIKE IT. I like to have long hair that is not gray. I like to have nicely manicured nails, I like to wear dresses.

If you are courting sexual attention from strangers, don’t complain that they treat you like a sex object.

Existing in public isn’t “courting sexual attention from strangers”. People have foot fetishes— is everyone in sandals “courting sexual attention” from them?

If you wear yoga pants that reveals your cameltoe, go braless or something low cut, you have to be aware that you are attracting sexual attention. Maybe it’s what you want - and that’s fine! personally I think all attractive women should dress like that… weirdly, not all do - it’s like some of them don’t want men to leer at them and objectify them.

What you seem to not understand is that one attracts sexual attention simply by existing in public. Like I said— foot fetishes are well documented. My sandals are probably turning someone on. That person is probably leering and objectifying me. So should I never go out in sandals because some dude likes feet? Why are my clothing choices supposed to be constrained by the poor behavior (leering) of men?

there's a difference between saying, "there are countless weird men with bizarre fetishes so I can't stop living my life and wearing things that are comfortable to avoid being seen as too alluring for [insert bizarre fetish here]" and walking down a street with your vagina fully displayed in your yoga pants, or wearing a top or bra that is specifically marketed as making you more sexually appealing.

Anyway, it all comes down to context. I don't think even the perviest of DCUM would say that a cameltoe or going braless at work is appropriate. Same way it's not appropriate for a male attorney to go to a hearing with no tie and the top six buttons undone, or his 5-inch running shorts. If you're capable of understanding that some contexts require different outfits, then you understand the idea behind people's belief that some clothes are too revealing to wear in public. You're just being difficult.

I don’t think there are any bras marketed any other way than making people look and feel attractive. So your point seems to be that if advertising agencies and a creepy man think something is sexual, that should constrain my choices?

Most of my bras are not very sexually alluring. Apparently you don't know a lot abotu women's undergarments.

The PP didn’t say sexually alluring. He said **marketed as** sexually appealing. Your bras are marketed to be unappealing?

Do you have a point, sir?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the record women (and men) don't do things to make themselves look young purely for sexual attractiveness.

All humans have a background existential fear of death, aging is a sign that you see in the mirror every day that your clock has been ticking for a good while. Staying youthful and vibrant makes people feel like they're still in the population that MATTERS (unlike children and elderly who are spoken of like obligations instead of in the conversation themselves).

There are layers to all this but in the end humans are tribal and want to be accepted and 'in the room where its happening' figuratively. Being on trend/youthful/in fashion is to attract a mate sure but it is also, I think equally, just to feel relevant.

I think that what youre describing is the idea that men adn women don't dress attractively with the intention of literally finding someone to have sex with. But that doesn't mean other people don't view them the same way.

If I lived my life entirely based on how other people were viewing me I would be pretty unhappy

True, in general.

But also, I've lived my whole life making sure I don't walk around with my genitals displayed to strangers, and you know what... it's been pretty okay! No regrets!

Stop repeating that nonsense. No one is displaying genitals.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why women need to wear revealing clothing in public but men survive fine without it? Would we be as open to men wearing revealing clothing in public? If they want to flaunt what they got, shouldn't we be more accepting to see male genitalia in public?

Because we have historically been trained to please/entertain them. They get to be comfortable and functional (see flat shoes shoes), without painting their face and nails, curling their hair etc.

It is a waste of women’s time, and we should stop wearing costumes to entertain them.

And historically we as women needed to do that to secure our financial well-being. But that hasn't been the case for a long time now. So surely you do understand that a vast majority of us dress any way we like because WE LIKE IT. I like to have long hair that is not gray. I like to have nicely manicured nails, I like to wear dresses.

If you are courting sexual attention from strangers, don’t complain that they treat you like a sex object.

Existing in public isn’t “courting sexual attention from strangers”. People have foot fetishes— is everyone in sandals “courting sexual attention” from them?

If you wear yoga pants that reveals your cameltoe, go braless or something low cut, you have to be aware that you are attracting sexual attention. Maybe it’s what you want - and that’s fine! personally I think all attractive women should dress like that… weirdly, not all do - it’s like some of them don’t want men to leer at them and objectify them.

What you seem to not understand is that one attracts sexual attention simply by existing in public. Like I said— foot fetishes are well documented. My sandals are probably turning someone on. That person is probably leering and objectifying me. So should I never go out in sandals because some dude likes feet? Why are my clothing choices supposed to be constrained by the poor behavior (leering) of men?

there's a difference between saying, "there are countless weird men with bizarre fetishes so I can't stop living my life and wearing things that are comfortable to avoid being seen as too alluring for [insert bizarre fetish here]" and walking down a street with your vagina fully displayed in your yoga pants, or wearing a top or bra that is specifically marketed as making you more sexually appealing.

Anyway, it all comes down to context. I don't think even the perviest of DCUM would say that a cameltoe or going braless at work is appropriate. Same way it's not appropriate for a male attorney to go to a hearing with no tie and the top six buttons undone, or his 5-inch running shorts. If you're capable of understanding that some contexts require different outfits, then you understand the idea behind people's belief that some clothes are too revealing to wear in public. You're just being difficult.

I don’t think there are any bras marketed any other way than making people look and feel attractive. So your point seems to be that if advertising agencies and a creepy man think something is sexual, that should constrain my choices?

Most of my bras are not very sexually alluring. Apparently you don't know a lot abotu women's undergarments.

The PP didn’t say sexually alluring. He said **marketed as** sexually appealing. Your bras are marketed to be unappealing?

Do you have a point, sir?

My point is, how clothes are marketed and how creepy dudes see them are not reasonable constraints on how people dress in public. Don’t like how someone looks in their yoga pants? Feel free to look elsewhere.

I’m also a woman.

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Anonymous wrote:For the record women (and men) don't do things to make themselves look young purely for sexual attractiveness.

All humans have a background existential fear of death, aging is a sign that you see in the mirror every day that your clock has been ticking for a good while. Staying youthful and vibrant makes people feel like they're still in the population that MATTERS (unlike children and elderly who are spoken of like obligations instead of in the conversation themselves).

There are layers to all this but in the end humans are tribal and want to be accepted and 'in the room where its happening' figuratively. Being on trend/youthful/in fashion is to attract a mate sure but it is also, I think equally, just to feel relevant.

I think that what youre describing is the idea that men adn women don't dress attractively with the intention of literally finding someone to have sex with. But that doesn't mean other people don't view them the same way.

If I lived my life entirely based on how other people were viewing me I would be pretty unhappy

True, in general.

But also, I've lived my whole life making sure I don't walk around with my genitals displayed to strangers, and you know what... it's been pretty okay! No regrets!

Well it's against the law to do that so I don't think either of us have to worry about it going that far

Legally, I can walk around with a cameltoe if I want to. I dont' want to.

So don't? I came into this late is this really what the debate is about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you dress in revealing clothing in public or don't does your partner encourage it? Why do they encourage it?

Do you encourage your male partner to run without a shirt? How more revealing is that?

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Anonymous wrote:For the record women (and men) don't do things to make themselves look young purely for sexual attractiveness.

All humans have a background existential fear of death, aging is a sign that you see in the mirror every day that your clock has been ticking for a good while. Staying youthful and vibrant makes people feel like they're still in the population that MATTERS (unlike children and elderly who are spoken of like obligations instead of in the conversation themselves).

There are layers to all this but in the end humans are tribal and want to be accepted and 'in the room where its happening' figuratively. Being on trend/youthful/in fashion is to attract a mate sure but it is also, I think equally, just to feel relevant.

I think that what youre describing is the idea that men adn women don't dress attractively with the intention of literally finding someone to have sex with. But that doesn't mean other people don't view them the same way.

If I lived my life entirely based on how other people were viewing me I would be pretty unhappy

True, in general.

But also, I've lived my whole life making sure I don't walk around with my genitals displayed to strangers, and you know what... it's been pretty okay! No regrets!

Stop repeating that nonsense. No one is displaying genitals.

Women with cameltoes certainly are.