People still masking every day at work

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People in Japan were masking before covid.

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Anonymous wrote:I get masking to reduce the risk of illness.

But if you are at high risk for fatal complications due to cancer or whatever, you're crazy to think masking is enough for you to go around in crowded places every day.

I know someone who masks a lot, fine, and works with non-maskers, OK, but also insists other people to mask whenever they go into the supply room. That seems ridiculous.

Some of us are forced to go into the office in person, even with health issues. If we weren't forced, we wouldn't be requesting you mask in small cramped spaces.

I don't care whether most people mask or not, doesn't matter most of the time. If you are the type of person who knows your coworker or their family has health issues, and still refuse to mask when you are in a tight space at work with them? That says more about you than them.

In the one case I've encountered at work, with a coworker like this who was a rabid antimasker, karma caught up with them in the form of their very own autoimmune disease they developed a couple of months post Covid infection. They decided to leave work at that point, rather than coming in once a week. And that autoimmune condition, much like mine, is for the rest of their life.

I didn't say anyone was cuddling up together in the supply closet.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People in Japan were masking before covid.

Did it do them any good?

The consensus in the public health pre COVID was masking wasn't necessary because it didn't deliver the benefits associated with it. People rarely wear masks correctly and people are idiosyncratic about masking. They'll mask in the supermarket but not with friends but where do you get COVID from? Friends, not the supermarket.

The Japanese masked when they were sick, not to avoid getting sick. Distinct difference.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's so freaking weird when I see people out walking alone with a mask on. SO WEIRD.

I assume if they are masked and walking outside at the moment that they learned during covid that these masks help them with their seasonal hayfever.

It was also useful to have masks on hand when wildfires in Canada last year sent smoke down to New York and Washington DC.

That's been one awesome thing I've learned with masks: I can now go walking in the spring with a mask and not have severe allergy symptoms. Don't wear them outside any other time of year.

I wear a mask inside in public and at work, because I really don't want a second autoimmune disease right now.And, I also have hearing issues and realized it was time to get hearing aides because I realized how much lip reading I was unknowingly doing. It sounds like a lot of others here don't hear as well as they thought either.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a few people at my federal office who are still masking every day. One of them wears rubber gloves and masks-up every day. One of them drives to work while masked up, alone, in her car.

Should I assume they are unvaxxed? Just super paranoid or something??

I find this so weird.

They have autoimmune or cancer, or more likely they LIVE with someone who is VERY high risk with similar conditions.

This is likely the case.
I usually think this when I see someone masked in public. 😷

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At the high school where I teach there are lots of teachers/ other personnel still masking every day.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People in Japan were masking before covid.

Did it do them any good?

The consensus in the public health pre COVID was masking wasn't necessary because it didn't deliver the benefits associated with it. People rarely wear masks correctly and people are idiosyncratic about masking. They'll mask in the supermarket but not with friends but where do you get COVID from? Friends, not the supermarket.

The Japanese masked when they were sick, not to avoid getting sick. Distinct difference.

And that is very considerate of them. I had TB Mary sitting behind me on a plane, coughing up her lungs but not wearing a mask. I wore one. I understand it would have been better for all concerned for her to wear one, but that would infringe on her rights to infect people. I did the best I could under the circumstances.

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Anyone who is judging people who are wearing masks is an ass. MY BODY, MY CHOICE!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a few people at my federal office who are still masking every day. One of them wears rubber gloves and masks-up every day. One of them drives to work while masked up, alone, in her car.

Should I assume they are unvaxxed? Just super paranoid or something??

I find this so weird.

How about MYOB and worry about yourself?

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Anonymous wrote:There are a few people at my federal office who are still masking every day. One of them wears rubber gloves and masks-up every day. One of them drives to work while masked up, alone, in her car.

Should I assume they are unvaxxed? Just super paranoid or something??

I find this so weird.

They have autoimmune or cancer, or more likely they LIVE with someone who is VERY high risk with similar conditions.

This is likely the case.
I usually think this when I see someone masked in public. 😷

Me, too and the last thing they want or need to do is tell the prying public about their private medical conditions.

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I wore a mask when I was going through cancer treatment. I had my spouse do the same. I didn’t want my treatment to get set back.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who is judging people who are wearing masks is an ass. MY BODY, MY CHOICE!

EXACTLY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are a few people at my federal office who are still masking every day. One of them wears rubber gloves and masks-up every day. One of them drives to work while masked up, alone, in her car.

Should I assume they are unvaxxed? Just super paranoid or something??

I find this so weird.

Maybe they are on chemo or have a family member on chemo. In any case unless they are forcing you to wear a mask, why do you care? Try minding your own business.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not understanding why others care so much about this.

Hi! I’m op and it’s not that “I care so much!” - really; I have never asked one them and never will - which is why I asked on an anonymous forum that’s free to use.

But don’t you find it a little bit weird to still be doing this in April 2024 ?

Are you really so stupid that you can't think of valid reasons they are wearing masks. Maybe your bad breath permeates their office and this is the only way they can breathe!

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The gloves I find weird because unless they are constantly changing them, they do nothing.