People still masking every day at work

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

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Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

You'd think someone with a disability would be kinder to others. Annoying that you want accommodations for yourself but still want to sh*t on people who want to protect their health. Very entitled to want kindness for yourself but do not give the same in return.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People in Japan were masking before covid.

No, they weren't wearing masks unless they were sick. Sometimes if air quality got bad (more in China).

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Anonymous wrote:The gloves I find weird because unless they are constantly changing them, they do nothing.

The gloves are a clear sign they're hoping to weird others out enough to be allowed to work from home full-time.

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Anonymous wrote:The gloves I find weird because unless they are constantly changing them, they do nothing.

Why is it weird when some viruses and colds are surface based?

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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes mask because I nearly died when I had Covid. Sounds like my mask makes YOU anxious- maybe get a handle on your own anxiety.

I mask many places because I have an autoimmune disease. I can't take paxlovid because of my prescriptions. I wear a mask when I see my doctors because they are seeing people all day who are sick. I wear a mask on planes because I always used to arrive at destinations sick before covid and prefer to be well.

Exactly this but I'm not just worried about covid, but colds and flu. I cannot take paxlovid either. Docs often don't mask. I've picked up colds going to the doctor. I don't travel.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People in Japan were masking before covid.

No, they weren't wearing masks unless they were sick. Sometimes if air quality got bad (more in China).

They absolutely were. And in Korea. And in Taiwan. And in Singapore.
This started during the SARS outbreak and continued on. Please don't spread false news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who is judging people who are wearing masks is an ass. MY BODY, MY CHOICE!

NP. I mostly agree, but the person at work who wears a mask under her nose all day drives me a little batty.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not understanding why others care so much about this.

+1

Right? It’s none of your damn business. There may be circumstances in their life that is none of your beeswax.

Get a life and worry about yourself. They are wearing the mask. Not you!

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Anonymous wrote:The gloves I find weird because unless they are constantly changing them, they do nothing.

Why is it weird when some viruses and colds are surface based?

Most people don't realize that gloves don't do a great job in protecting you unless you are changing them consistently after touching different things. It provides a false sense of protection. You're way better off just practicing good hand hygiene.

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Anonymous wrote:The gloves I find weird because unless they are constantly changing them, they do nothing.

Why is it weird when some viruses and colds are surface based?

Most people don't realize that gloves don't do a great job in protecting you unless you are changing them consistently after touching different things. It provides a false sense of protection. You're way better off just practicing good hand hygiene.

If they change them and aren't touching themselves it's fine. But, really, it has no impact on you so why do you care?

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Anonymous wrote:There are a few people at my federal office who are still masking every day. One of them wears rubber gloves and masks-up every day. One of them drives to work while masked up, alone, in her car.

Should I assume they are unvaxxed? Just super paranoid or something??

I find this so weird.

I work with someone like this. She didn’t want the vax yet was very covid paranoid. It’s very odd, but she’s an odd person. I think covid really brought out people’s hidden anxiety.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't even need to read this. It's 5 pages of MYOB, you're a monster who doesn't care about people, they're immunocompromised or they have allergies or they live with someone who is immunocompromised. And why do you care anyway???????????? Who are you to judge???????????????

Am I right?

Yes, OP I also notice and I know people in my life who still mask and I know their personal situations and it's not any of the above. Some portion of these people just have mental health issues (anxiety) but saying that or thinking that will just get you berated.

Was coming here to post just this. Yes, there are legitimate reasons for some to mask. But the one person I know who still does religiously—and carries around not one, but two CO2 monitors AND requires her teenagers to mask outside—has none of those reasons and had mental health problems before Covid came along to give her something new to fixate on.

We're also supposed to act like it's perfectly normal to talk to these people with masks on and never see their face and it's no trouble hearing them either. If you mention any of that, you will similarly get berated.

Just don't say anything OP.

Yes, you are supposed to "act like...". Too bad so sad.
About a year and a half ago a duo from the DOD IG office came to interview a team regarding a routine audit, we met with them one at a time, during my meeting, at the beginning, one of the guys said "oh I won't be able to hear you with your mask"--we were sitting around a very small table. I ignored him and meeting proceeded.

Er...what if he legitimately had a hearing problem? For some people they need to read lips.

And, he can get a hearing aid. Very few people are lip readers and if they were they'd identify themselves.

I am severely hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to have hearing loss, as hearing aids cannot completely fix the problem and give the users perfect hearing. They are not like glasses or contacts. Those who wear hearing aids rely heavily on lip reading and body language to understand speech. Masks are an absolute disaster for me and I thank God I don’t have to go to an office and interact with masked people because I would never have any idea what’s going on.

Perhaps I don’t want to “identify myself” to jerks like the PP who refuse to unmask even when asked by someone with a real handicap.

And what does that have to do with regular people out and about? Do you froth at the mouth seeing people masking in grocery stores, or only at the office?

And what are you getting on about, frothing at the mouth?! No, I don't CARE if people out and about, or even at an office have a mask on. To each their own. I was replying to the PP who stated that people in meetings who can't hear masked people could just "get a hearing aid" and "very few people are lip readers". That comment simply demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of those who cannot hear. And also a serious lack of empathy again, for someone with a legitimate disability.

So your answer is that you, 1 person on this thread, potentially website, use lip reading to read?
Seems like that makes the point of pp. This isnt a common occurrence, and you sound like an entitled twit asking someone to risk their health because you hate masks.

Cool it. I'm another person who relies on lip reading as I have terrible hearing. When masking was at its peak, it was definitely a challenge. I put up with it. But now it's rarely a problem because so few people mask, and the few times someone in a mask starts talking to me, I just smile politely and shake my head and otherwise ignore them.

No one masks in my office and haven't masked in my office for about a year and a half. Major F500 firm. I have noticed outside a few specific types of environments, very, very few people are still masking. You see people with masks on subways and trains but they typically take it off as soon as they leave the carriages.

The one place I do see masking are progressive left wing protests and sit-ins. Not sure why they have strongly embraced masking as part of their identity. But it does make me wonder about the mentality that attracts people to still masking. All the health reasons people give on this forum existed before COVID in a world that was just as dangerous to the very sick, but no one masked back then. And I won't forget how we all wore pointless cloth masks for a year and it turned out they were useless.

People in Japan were masking before covid.

No, they weren't wearing masks unless they were sick. Sometimes if air quality got bad (more in China).

They absolutely were. And in Korea. And in Taiwan. And in Singapore.
This started during the SARS outbreak and continued on. Please don't spread false news.

No, they weren't. Not in large numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The gloves I find weird because unless they are constantly changing them, they do nothing.

Why is it weird when some viruses and colds are surface based?

Are you under the impression that viruses are absorbed through your hands?

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Anonymous wrote:The gloves I find weird because unless they are constantly changing them, they do nothing.

Why is it weird when some viruses and colds are surface based?

Are you under the impression that viruses are absorbed through your hands?

Are you really that unaware? You get the virus on your hands and touch your face or something else and that passes the virus.

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Sure seems like a lot of people got all triggered and worked up over OPs simple question.