SR/Project Veritas video

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a Stone Ridge parent, I found this news very disturbing. I do hope I am not alone here. My daughter is in the upper school and never had any interaction with this teacher, however, his derogatory remarks about the Catholic Church are quite disturbing and not appropriate for a leader in the school. He should be fired immediately.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

I think your MS child should leave the school in that case. It doesn't sound like a good fit. It's not like your child's feelings are valid.

Wow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this what things are really like out there? I’m a Catholic on the west coast. Our parish school has multiple pairs of catholic teachers who are (civic) married couples. Our baptism class included a two-mom family.

Do you DMV Catholics really think that these people should be shunned and removed from Catholic society? Because a lot of others disagree with you.

NP. No one is saying “shunned and removed from society,” that is your escalation of the situation.

However a gay man who makes statements like this should not be in an administrative position at a Catholic girls school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

No chance this is a true statement. Either your child isn’t really at SR or you’re making this up. We have a child in MS and the dean is a genuinely wonderful human being and universally beloved by all. I believe we all wish him well, however this ends up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

No chance this is a true statement. Either your child isn’t really at SR or you’re making this up. We have a child in MS and the dean is a genuinely wonderful human being and universally beloved by all. I believe we all wish him well, however this ends up.

Not true. My DD is in the MS at SR. She told me that although she and her friends generally liked this dean, they felt what he said was wrong and hurtful. They see him in a different light now. They feel he should not be at the school any longer because he had a secret agenda to sabotage the school, and it makes him not trustworthy anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

No chance this is a true statement. Either your child isn’t really at SR or you’re making this up. We have a child in MS and the dean is a genuinely wonderful human being and universally beloved by all. I believe we all wish him well, however this ends up.

Not true. My DD is in the MS at SR. She told me that although she and her friends generally liked this dean, they felt what he said was wrong and hurtful. They see him in a different light now. They feel he should not be at the school any longer because he had a secret agenda to sabotage the school, and it makes him not trustworthy anymore.

I want to add on to my post above that is parents at the school had no problem with him. He was very flamboyant and everyone knew he’s gay, but he was a fun educator and the kids liked him. No one cared that he’s gay as long as he kept his personal life outside of school. However, to be an educator in a Catholic school, he should be willing to teaching according to the Catholic doctrine. If he doesn’t believe in it, he shouldn’t be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

In what way does she not feel safe? That seems like an overreaction. I hope you reassured her that even if she disagrees with the teacher’s view point, he won’t hurt her and she is quite safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

No chance this is a true statement. Either your child isn’t really at SR or you’re making this up. We have a child in MS and the dean is a genuinely wonderful human being and universally beloved by all. I believe we all wish him well, however this ends up.

Agree.

The language about feeling “safe” is over the top. Can’t be a SR parent

[Anonymous]

It's how kids operate. If someone says trust me, kids turn on their truth detectors. That leadership is unfortunately compromised. Let the administration handle it. It's difficult and complicated, and people can do difficult and complicated. Certainly a Christian values based community can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this what things are really like out there? I’m a Catholic on the west coast. Our parish school has multiple pairs of catholic teachers who are (civic) married couples. Our baptism class included a two-mom family.

Do you DMV Catholics really think that these people should be shunned and removed from Catholic society? Because a lot of others disagree with you.

no one is shunning anyone. calm down. read up on what it really means to be catholic and raise your children catholic then come back to the conversation educated.

I’ve read plenty and you can’t pick and choose from 2000 years’ theology and a worldwide religion just to suit your bigoted point of view. The insistence that every Catholic school needs to be a maga/opus dei foxhole or else it “isn’t Catholic” is ridiculous.

I don't know what you've been reading, but it's obviously nothing of Catholic theology or YOU wouldn't be the one trying to pick & choose whatever of the faith suits your woke beliefs. Catholic schools do not need to be of the opus dei or maga variety (mercy!), but it also needs to be based on full Catholic teachings. Not your pick & choose woke theology.

Amen. 100% this. So tired of progressives trying to hijack Catholicism. Isn't that why the Episcopal church exists?

[Anonymous]

SR US parent here. This teacher was clearly an “ally” for girls who didn’t fit in to the SR heteroLax (sorry) culture. At the time—around 2018–trans mania was getting fired up. We missed it as parents; you had to be on tumblr, discord, and quora. I think he probably was there for girls who decided they were they / them, kind of like as an adult supporter. We found out about the renaming craze from our daughter; she was on the periphery but thankfully still communicated with us. The school handled it as well as it could have. There was tremendous social pressure to “affirm”. The school informed parents but also kept things discrete. It was very hard. I think they knew he was a support mechanism for those girls, and they were ok with it. The video is of course unacceptable, but they trapped the guy. Yes, in vino veritas (lol) but they literally boozed him up and primed him. I would challenge people to think of the worst thing they’ve said about the Church or the Pope and imagine it went viral on YouTube. You think you’d still be popular at church?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My MS daughter wants him fired. She doesn’t feel safe around him anymore. She is very upset.

No chance this is a true statement. Either your child isn’t really at SR or you’re making this up. We have a child in MS and the dean is a genuinely wonderful human being and universally beloved by all. I believe we all wish him well, however this ends up.

Agree.

The language about feeling “safe” is over the top. Can’t be a SR parent

And no child anywhere has any right demanding an adult be fired for a job for anything. What is she, a little Karen in training?

Even if this is a family with a child at SR, it's a parent hiding behind their child to make their ridiculous demands.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering how many people on this thread are actually Catholic and actually have kids at Stone Ridge, because some of the comments ring pretty false. As a Catholic parent raised in post-Vatican II schools and parishes, the only part that doesn't sound like everything I've heard my entire life is the actual word "subvert". Other than that, I've attended plenty of parishes where our priest has literally said something during mass that is contradictory to the black-and-white parts of Catholicism. He'll say something to the tune of "the church says this, but God says this, and so I leave you with the message that man is imperfect, god is not, and to follow the teachings of Jesus and..." and so on. Are there so many Catholics in this area who have never experienced this that they can't imagine that someone associated with a Catholic school would say this? I'm really bothered by the literalists and conservatives who have infiltrated the Catholic Church and turned their backs on thousands of years of intellectual thinking and debate.

The very fact that SR hired two gay men to lead the MS and US tells you that the school and it's community are very liberal and live up to the belief of "love the sinner but not the sin". They supported this gay man promoting him from long-time teacher to dean of the MS. However, in trying to subvert the very basis of the school's teachings, this man did not live up to his side of the contract. He can live however he wants as a private citizen, but purposely trying to subvert the Catholic teachings of a Catholic school, no Catholic family at the school can support this. After all, they sent their girls there specifically for the Catholic foundation of their girls' education. And this guy just admitted publicly that he's working to subvert it. That's a fireable offense to me.

Thank you. No Catholic family can support this. Catholic families need to speak up publicly, not anonymously on this very thing. Does anyone know if anyone is getting anywhere with the school?

Write a letter, then. Post your Facebook account. Use your name. We want to know who you are so you can suffer the consequence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering how many people on this thread are actually Catholic and actually have kids at Stone Ridge, because some of the comments ring pretty false. As a Catholic parent raised in post-Vatican II schools and parishes, the only part that doesn't sound like everything I've heard my entire life is the actual word "subvert". Other than that, I've attended plenty of parishes where our priest has literally said something during mass that is contradictory to the black-and-white parts of Catholicism. He'll say something to the tune of "the church says this, but God says this, and so I leave you with the message that man is imperfect, god is not, and to follow the teachings of Jesus and..." and so on. Are there so many Catholics in this area who have never experienced this that they can't imagine that someone associated with a Catholic school would say this? I'm really bothered by the literalists and conservatives who have infiltrated the Catholic Church and turned their backs on thousands of years of intellectual thinking and debate.

The very fact that SR hired two gay men to lead the MS and US tells you that the school and it's community are very liberal and live up to the belief of "love the sinner but not the sin". They supported this gay man promoting him from long-time teacher to dean of the MS. However, in trying to subvert the very basis of the school's teachings, this man did not live up to his side of the contract. He can live however he wants as a private citizen, but purposely trying to subvert the Catholic teachings of a Catholic school, no Catholic family at the school can support this. After all, they sent their girls there specifically for the Catholic foundation of their girls' education. And this guy just admitted publicly that he's working to subvert it. That's a fireable offense to me.

Thank you. No Catholic family can support this. Catholic families need to speak up publicly, not anonymously on this very thing. Does anyone know if anyone is getting anywhere with the school?

Write a letter, then. Post your Facebook account. Use your name. We want to know who you are so you can suffer the consequence.

Oh trust me. People ARE speaking up directly to administration. People who are large donors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SR US parent here. This teacher was clearly an “ally” for girls who didn’t fit in to the SR heteroLax (sorry) culture. At the time—around 2018–trans mania was getting fired up. We missed it as parents; you had to be on tumblr, discord, and quora. I think he probably was there for girls who decided they were they / them, kind of like as an adult supporter. We found out about the renaming craze from our daughter; she was on the periphery but thankfully still communicated with us. The school handled it as well as it could have. There was tremendous social pressure to “affirm”. The school informed parents but also kept things discrete. It was very hard. I think they knew he was a support mechanism for those girls, and they were ok with it. The video is of course unacceptable, but they trapped the guy. Yes, in vino veritas (lol) but they literally boozed him up and primed him. I would challenge people to think of the worst thing they’ve said about the Church or the Pope and imagine it went viral on YouTube. You think you’d still be popular at church?

Thank you for this background. I would not want to be hot mic'd sitting on a bar stool, I would sound like the most horrible person in the world. I figure there was some sort of entrapment. Well, like not asking permission to record for example. With that being said, trust has been broken. He is in an admin position handing out 'demerits' along with support, right? The kids need to trust him. I read him as a very nice person with good intentions, but many of the children he works with will have their trust-meters out without some kind of explanation or reparative process. And maybe neither he or the school wants to wade into that? I agree that the school was overtaken by social currents, and needs a transparent policy on children seeking allies. Transparent to the children, to the faculty, to the parents. Put it in the handbook. And I trust that the school will handle this with compassion and dignity. I wish him well. Again, don't think this came from a bad place at all.