Hoping these kids are OK

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Anonymous wrote:From WaPo:
All the juveniles in the car were 14 to 17 years old, from the area where the crash happened, and either friends or related to one another

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Police believe the driver did not have a license

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The vehicle was not stolen but belongs to one person in the vehicle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/fairfax-va-merrifield-car-crash/

Did not have a license?!?

Didn't we just discuss teens driving with no license recently on DCUM?

Many people here subornly refused to believe it happens in this area. Apparently, it does happen in this area.

In order to get a license in Virginia before 18, you need to take driver's ed. A lot of kids can't afford that, so yes, they drive without a license.

It's usually offered at public schools as PE.

This. Everyone gets it. You can even take the permit test at the school and for driving lessons through the county you do have to pay, but they will pick you up at the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From WaPo:
All the juveniles in the car were 14 to 17 years old, from the area where the crash happened, and either friends or related to one another

and
Police believe the driver did not have a license

and
The vehicle was not stolen but belongs to one person in the vehicle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/fairfax-va-merrifield-car-crash/

Did not have a license?!?

Didn't we just discuss teens driving with no license recently on DCUM?

Many people here subornly refused to believe it happens in this area. Apparently, it does happen in this area.

In order to get a license in Virginia before 18, you need to take driver's ed. A lot of kids can't afford that, so yes, they drive without a license.

It's usually offered at public schools as PE.

Not in Arlington. And students who are in ESOL often can't pass drivers ed through PE.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From WaPo:
All the juveniles in the car were 14 to 17 years old, from the area where the crash happened, and either friends or related to one another

and
Police believe the driver did not have a license

and
The vehicle was not stolen but belongs to one person in the vehicle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/fairfax-va-merrifield-car-crash/

Did not have a license?!?

Didn't we just discuss teens driving with no license recently on DCUM?

Many people here subornly refused to believe it happens in this area. Apparently, it does happen in this area.

In order to get a license in Virginia before 18, you need to take driver's ed. A lot of kids can't afford that, so yes, they drive without a license.

It's usually offered at public schools as PE.

Not in Arlington. And students who are in ESOL often can't pass drivers ed through PE.

My kid at Washington & Liberty literally took it last year (10th grade). So you're wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From WaPo:
All the juveniles in the car were 14 to 17 years old, from the area where the crash happened, and either friends or related to one another

and
Police believe the driver did not have a license

and
The vehicle was not stolen but belongs to one person in the vehicle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/fairfax-va-merrifield-car-crash/

Did not have a license?!?

Didn't we just discuss teens driving with no license recently on DCUM?

Many people here subornly refused to believe it happens in this area. Apparently, it does happen in this area.

In order to get a license in Virginia before 18, you need to take driver's ed. A lot of kids can't afford that, so yes, they drive without a license.

It's usually offered at public schools as PE.

Not in Arlington. And students who are in ESOL often can't pass drivers ed through PE.

why does this matter? No excuse to drive without a license. and the are driven was a luxury SUV this wasn't some poor kid who couldn't afford drivers ed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From WaPo:
All the juveniles in the car were 14 to 17 years old, from the area where the crash happened, and either friends or related to one another

and
Police believe the driver did not have a license

and
The vehicle was not stolen but belongs to one person in the vehicle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/fairfax-va-merrifield-car-crash/

Did not have a license?!?

Didn't we just discuss teens driving with no license recently on DCUM?

Many people here subornly refused to believe it happens in this area. Apparently, it does happen in this area.

In order to get a license in Virginia before 18, you need to take driver's ed. A lot of kids can't afford that, so yes, they drive without a license.

It's usually offered at public schools as PE.

This. Everyone gets it. You can even take the permit test at the school and for driving lessons through the county you do have to pay, but they will pick you up at the school.

I don't think people realize that this is a lot of money for many students. I am not justifying driving without a license, but for people to say everyone can just pay for driving lessons after the permit test, that is not realistic for all students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From WaPo:
All the juveniles in the car were 14 to 17 years old, from the area where the crash happened, and either friends or related to one another

and
Police believe the driver did not have a license

and
The vehicle was not stolen but belongs to one person in the vehicle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/fairfax-va-merrifield-car-crash/

Did not have a license?!?

Didn't we just discuss teens driving with no license recently on DCUM?

Many people here subornly refused to believe it happens in this area. Apparently, it does happen in this area.

In order to get a license in Virginia before 18, you need to take driver's ed. A lot of kids can't afford that, so yes, they drive without a license.

It's usually offered at public schools as PE.

Not in Arlington. And students who are in ESOL often can't pass drivers ed through PE.

why does this matter? No excuse to drive without a license. and the are driven was a luxury SUV this wasn't some poor kid who couldn't afford drivers ed.

It's a 2003 Aviator. It was no longer luxury

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From WaPo:
All the juveniles in the car were 14 to 17 years old, from the area where the crash happened, and either friends or related to one another

and
Police believe the driver did not have a license

and
The vehicle was not stolen but belongs to one person in the vehicle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/fairfax-va-merrifield-car-crash/

Did not have a license?!?

Didn't we just discuss teens driving with no license recently on DCUM?

Many people here subornly refused to believe it happens in this area. Apparently, it does happen in this area.

In order to get a license in Virginia before 18, you need to take driver's ed. A lot of kids can't afford that, so yes, they drive without a license.

How do they afford a car if they can't afford a license?

[Anonymous]

Falls Church News-Press still has it up that the driver was 14. That might make more sense given the supposed lack of driver's license? But Nick Benton doesn't seem to run the tightest ship, so maybe that "14" is a typo?

https://www.fcnp.com/2023/11/20/6-teens-seriously-injured-and-considered-life-threatening-in-1-car-crash-on-shreve-road/

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Anonymous wrote:Of course they aren’t ok. They were thrown from a car.

Teens are resilient. I also hope they are ok or will recover.

The driver is going to jail for a long time

If he was in Arlington, he wouldn't go to jail at all. Remember that kid who drove drunk and killed someone, 1 month before he turned 18, and the PROSECUTOR, not the judge, wouldn't agree to jail time. OMFG.

That kid comes from a rich influential family in McLean.

There are kids getting into trouble all over the region. A teenager was found deceased at Wakefield HS in Arlington over the weekend.

The articles say he died of a heart attack and its not narcotics related. So this seems a bit of a jump to say he was in trouble.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/death-investigation-after-teen-reportedly-suffers-cardiac-arrest-near-arlington-school-police

and it wasn't even at the school?! It was across the street. Could have been at his house? Not sure why the PP framed it the way they did.

We all know why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From WaPo:
All the juveniles in the car were 14 to 17 years old, from the area where the crash happened, and either friends or related to one another

and
Police believe the driver did not have a license

and
The vehicle was not stolen but belongs to one person in the vehicle

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/11/20/fairfax-va-merrifield-car-crash/

Did not have a license?!?

Didn't we just discuss teens driving with no license recently on DCUM?

Many people here subornly refused to believe it happens in this area. Apparently, it does happen in this area.

In order to get a license in Virginia before 18, you need to take driver's ed. A lot of kids can't afford that, so yes, they drive without a license.

It's usually offered at public schools as PE.

This. Everyone gets it. You can even take the permit test at the school and for driving lessons through the county you do have to pay, but they will pick you up at the school.

I don't think people realize that this is a lot of money for many students. I am not justifying driving without a license, but for people to say everyone can just pay for driving lessons after the permit test, that is not realistic for all students.

Can you start your own thread on the nonequity of having driving lessons to get a drivers license? Seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course they aren’t ok. They were thrown from a car.

Teens are resilient. I also hope they are ok or will recover.

The driver is going to jail for a long time

If he was in Arlington, he wouldn't go to jail at all. Remember that kid who drove drunk and killed someone, 1 month before he turned 18, and the PROSECUTOR, not the judge, wouldn't agree to jail time. OMFG.

We have a juvenile justice system for juveniles. For all juveniles, not just for the ones that you don't hear about.

He should have been tried AS AN ADULT.

Just like the kid in Alexandria who stabbed and killed a classmate at Bradlee and will not go to a real prison.

You do this kind of $hit, you face the consequence. GTFOH. Attitudes like yours are how we got here, because the current system of ignoring it ISN'T WORKING MY FRIEND.

No, he should have been tried in the juvenile system because he’s a minor. That’s how it works.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like several irresponsible parents are to blame here. Tragic.

You're scuzzy for posting this. You could be the best parent in the world, and short of locking your teenagers into their rooms, lots of kids are going to sneak out.

No, they're not. Don't be your kid's friend. Be their effing parent, and this won't happen (again and again and again).

I mean I just posted above but my parents were NOT my friend. They were my parent. They were involved in my school activities. I got straight As and earned the gold award in girl scouts. I volunteered with animals on weekend and was involved in my church's youth group. I got a job at 16. WE had family dinner every night. I still snuck out and drank and did drugs. My parents grounded me. They cut off my phone service. They put me in therapy. They did everything they could short of putting me in wilderness camp.

Kids aren't robots. You can parent the heck out of them and be the best parent ever and your kid will still make their own decisions and their own mistakes.

+1 million. People have their heads in the sand.

Or maybe a lot of us didn’t actually sneak out on a school night to get blitzed. This is not normal and does reflect poorly on the home situation of these kids.

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This scenario of so many kids being out at that hour suggests to me that at least one set of parents weren't home. Perhaps parents went out of town last night, leaving 17 and 14 year old home alone, they invite their buddies to spend the night, and one thing led to another.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like several irresponsible parents are to blame here. Tragic.

You're scuzzy for posting this. You could be the best parent in the world, and short of locking your teenagers into their rooms, lots of kids are going to sneak out.

No, they're not. Don't be your kid's friend. Be their effing parent, and this won't happen (again and again and again).

I mean I just posted above but my parents were NOT my friend. They were my parent. They were involved in my school activities. I got straight As and earned the gold award in girl scouts. I volunteered with animals on weekend and was involved in my church's youth group. I got a job at 16. WE had family dinner every night. I still snuck out and drank and did drugs. My parents grounded me. They cut off my phone service. They put me in therapy. They did everything they could short of putting me in wilderness camp.

Kids aren't robots. You can parent the heck out of them and be the best parent ever and your kid will still make their own decisions and their own mistakes.

+1

Some of these posters don’t have kids. Or they did 40 years ago and don’t actually remember what it’s like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess is the driver was stoned. Remember the accident about a year ago in which 3 JMU students died because the driver ran the car into a tree? That "designated driver" was high. 5 people in the car. 3 dead, one with life threatening injuries and the driver (who was stoned) walked away without a scratch.

The police made it clear that it was alcohol in the briefing this morning.