Mean girls mean moms

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't give them an opportunity to be mean to you. Ignore them!

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Come on. Don't be ridiculous. When your kids wants to join in a game at recess and the other girls say "NO!" and run away from you how do you ignore that? Is your solution that the kid who just wants to play should know their place and never even ask? Just sit there on a bench alone? No.

This reads like you really want your kid to be in the “in crowd” and are fighting reality. 2nd-3rd grade is old enough for kids to flock towards people they enjoy spending time with.

Can we agree to ignore this PP? Saying it’s ok for 7 and 8 year olds to be left out at school because others want to only play with kids they “flock towards” is insane.

Kids don’t have any choice over whether or not they are at school! A certain level of kindness and inclusion in a compulsory education environment should be required and expected by parents.

Flip the script… Your kid comes home and tells you someone is chasing her around the playground and kicking and screaming to be included. You would tell your child to ignore them.

Your language tips me off to the fact your child may have SNs and so this conversation isn’t for you.

DP. Oh, my goodness. So you are saying a child with special needs can’t be part of this conversation? You do understand that kids with SNs are much more likely to be the victims of mean girl behavior (sorry, relational aggression) and bullying than any other group? That they are the least likely to be the kids who engage in such behavior? Are you saying kids with SNs should just suck it up? Really?

Your language is the tip off here, not PPs. We see you now.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't give them an opportunity to be mean to you. Ignore them!

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Come on. Don't be ridiculous. When your kids wants to join in a game at recess and the other girls say "NO!" and run away from you how do you ignore that? Is your solution that the kid who just wants to play should know their place and never even ask? Just sit there on a bench alone? No.

This reads like you really want your kid to be in the “in crowd” and are fighting reality. 2nd-3rd grade is old enough for kids to flock towards people they enjoy spending time with.

Can we agree to ignore this PP? Saying it’s ok for 7 and 8 year olds to be left out at school because others want to only play with kids they “flock towards” is insane.

Kids don’t have any choice over whether or not they are at school! A certain level of kindness and inclusion in a compulsory education environment should be required and expected by parents.

Girl, you are literally telling other posters to ignore me because you don’t like my messaging. You may need to go back to elementary school and get your head on straight. Practice what you preach! don’t hate the player, hate the game!

She is telling people to ignore a bully.
If you want to engage in this behavior and teach your kids to write mean notes or make fun of kids for having special needs, then go for it.

No one has to listen to you tell us why it’s okay.

You’re projecting. No one is saying that behavior is okay.

Yes, you actually are saying exactly that.

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

How does it go down? What sort of mean behavior (your words)? The acceptable kind?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

How does it go down? What sort of mean behavior (your words)? The acceptable kind?

Girls literally hanging onto other kids coats and begging to be included. My husband saw it on a field trip. Girls making up stories and running to the teachers in order to get the “cooler” kids in trouble.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't give them an opportunity to be mean to you. Ignore them!

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Come on. Don't be ridiculous. When your kids wants to join in a game at recess and the other girls say "NO!" and run away from you how do you ignore that? Is your solution that the kid who just wants to play should know their place and never even ask? Just sit there on a bench alone? No.

This reads like you really want your kid to be in the “in crowd” and are fighting reality. 2nd-3rd grade is old enough for kids to flock towards people they enjoy spending time with.

Can we agree to ignore this PP? Saying it’s ok for 7 and 8 year olds to be left out at school because others want to only play with kids they “flock towards” is insane.

Kids don’t have any choice over whether or not they are at school! A certain level of kindness and inclusion in a compulsory education environment should be required and expected by parents.

Flip the script… Your kid comes home and tells you someone is chasing her around the playground and kicking and screaming to be included. You would tell your child to ignore them.

Your language tips me off to the fact your child may have SNs and so this conversation isn’t for you.

DP. Oh, my goodness. So you are saying a child with special needs can’t be part of this conversation? You do understand that kids with SNs are much more likely to be the victims of mean girl behavior (sorry, relational aggression) and bullying than any other group? That they are the least likely to be the kids who engage in such behavior? Are you saying kids with SNs should just suck it up? Really?

Your language is the tip off here, not PPs. We see you now.

I don’t have the perspective of a parent with a kid with SN so why would a parent of a SN kids understand where I’m coming from?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't give them an opportunity to be mean to you. Ignore them!

x100000

Come on. Don't be ridiculous. When your kids wants to join in a game at recess and the other girls say "NO!" and run away from you how do you ignore that? Is your solution that the kid who just wants to play should know their place and never even ask? Just sit there on a bench alone? No.

This reads like you really want your kid to be in the “in crowd” and are fighting reality. 2nd-3rd grade is old enough for kids to flock towards people they enjoy spending time with.

Can we agree to ignore this PP? Saying it’s ok for 7 and 8 year olds to be left out at school because others want to only play with kids they “flock towards” is insane.

Kids don’t have any choice over whether or not they are at school! A certain level of kindness and inclusion in a compulsory education environment should be required and expected by parents.

Flip the script… Your kid comes home and tells you someone is chasing her around the playground and kicking and screaming to be included. You would tell your child to ignore them.

Your language tips me off to the fact your child may have SNs and so this conversation isn’t for you.

DP. Oh, my goodness. So you are saying a child with special needs can’t be part of this conversation? You do understand that kids with SNs are much more likely to be the victims of mean girl behavior (sorry, relational aggression) and bullying than any other group? That they are the least likely to be the kids who engage in such behavior? Are you saying kids with SNs should just suck it up? Really?

Your language is the tip off here, not PPs. We see you now.

I don’t have the perspective of a parent with a kid with SN so why would a parent of a SN kids understand where I’m coming from?

Wow. You do realize that some parents have kids with SNs and kids without?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't give them an opportunity to be mean to you. Ignore them!

x100000

Come on. Don't be ridiculous. When your kids wants to join in a game at recess and the other girls say "NO!" and run away from you how do you ignore that? Is your solution that the kid who just wants to play should know their place and never even ask? Just sit there on a bench alone? No.

This reads like you really want your kid to be in the “in crowd” and are fighting reality. 2nd-3rd grade is old enough for kids to flock towards people they enjoy spending time with.

Can we agree to ignore this PP? Saying it’s ok for 7 and 8 year olds to be left out at school because others want to only play with kids they “flock towards” is insane.

Kids don’t have any choice over whether or not they are at school! A certain level of kindness and inclusion in a compulsory education environment should be required and expected by parents.

Flip the script… Your kid comes home and tells you someone is chasing her around the playground and kicking and screaming to be included. You would tell your child to ignore them.

Your language tips me off to the fact your child may have SNs and so this conversation isn’t for you.

DP. Oh, my goodness. So you are saying a child with special needs can’t be part of this conversation? You do understand that kids with SNs are much more likely to be the victims of mean girl behavior (sorry, relational aggression) and bullying than any other group? That they are the least likely to be the kids who engage in such behavior? Are you saying kids with SNs should just suck it up? Really?

Your language is the tip off here, not PPs. We see you now.

I don’t have the perspective of a parent with a kid with SN so why would a parent of a SN kids understand where I’m coming from?

Wow. You do realize that some parents have kids with SNs and kids without?

No, really? I had no idea!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

How does it go down? What sort of mean behavior (your words)? The acceptable kind?

Girls literally hanging onto other kids coats and begging to be included. My husband saw it on a field trip. Girls making up stories and running to the teachers in order to get the “cooler” kids in trouble.

Isn’t that just age appropriate behavior? Can’t you just tell your child to ignore it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't give them an opportunity to be mean to you. Ignore them!

x100000

Come on. Don't be ridiculous. When your kids wants to join in a game at recess and the other girls say "NO!" and run away from you how do you ignore that? Is your solution that the kid who just wants to play should know their place and never even ask? Just sit there on a bench alone? No.

This reads like you really want your kid to be in the “in crowd” and are fighting reality. 2nd-3rd grade is old enough for kids to flock towards people they enjoy spending time with.

Can we agree to ignore this PP? Saying it’s ok for 7 and 8 year olds to be left out at school because others want to only play with kids they “flock towards” is insane.

Kids don’t have any choice over whether or not they are at school! A certain level of kindness and inclusion in a compulsory education environment should be required and expected by parents.

Flip the script… Your kid comes home and tells you someone is chasing her around the playground and kicking and screaming to be included. You would tell your child to ignore them.

Your language tips me off to the fact your child may have SNs and so this conversation isn’t for you.

DP. Oh, my goodness. So you are saying a child with special needs can’t be part of this conversation? You do understand that kids with SNs are much more likely to be the victims of mean girl behavior (sorry, relational aggression) and bullying than any other group? That they are the least likely to be the kids who engage in such behavior? Are you saying kids with SNs should just suck it up? Really?

Your language is the tip off here, not PPs. We see you now.

I don’t have the perspective of a parent with a kid with SN so why would a parent of a SN kids understand where I’m coming from?

Wow. You do realize that some parents have kids with SNs and kids without?

No, really? I had no idea!!!

Obviously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

How does it go down? What sort of mean behavior (your words)? The acceptable kind?

Girls literally hanging onto other kids coats and begging to be included. My husband saw it on a field trip. Girls making up stories and running to the teachers in order to get the “cooler” kids in trouble.

Isn’t that just age appropriate behavior? Can’t you just tell your child to ignore it?

To clarify, it’s okay for less popular kids to talk trash about popular kids and try to get them in trouble, but not vice versa? Not to mention the physical assault. A child literally tore my daughters sleeve. That’s the hill you want to die on?

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

How does it go down? What sort of mean behavior (your words)? The acceptable kind?

Girls literally hanging onto other kids coats and begging to be included. My husband saw it on a field trip. Girls making up stories and running to the teachers in order to get the “cooler” kids in trouble.

Isn’t that just age appropriate behavior? Can’t you just tell your child to ignore it?

To clarify, it’s okay for less popular kids to talk trash about popular kids and try to get them in trouble, but not vice versa? Not to mention the physical assault. A child literally tore my daughters sleeve. That’s the hill you want to die on?

It’s your hill. I’m just trying to clarify why it’s age appropriate for some kids to tell others they can’t play or to tease them at recess but not age appropriate for other kids to try to get kids into trouble? Girls will be girls, right? Just tell her to ignore it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

How does it go down? What sort of mean behavior (your words)? The acceptable kind?

Girls literally hanging onto other kids coats and begging to be included. My husband saw it on a field trip. Girls making up stories and running to the teachers in order to get the “cooler” kids in trouble.

Isn’t that just age appropriate behavior? Can’t you just tell your child to ignore it?

To clarify, it’s okay for less popular kids to talk trash about popular kids and try to get them in trouble, but not vice versa? Not to mention the physical assault. A child literally tore my daughters sleeve. That’s the hill you want to die on?

Why are you so fixated on drawing lines between popular and less popular kids? Are behavioral expectations different depending on popularity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

How does it go down? What sort of mean behavior (your words)? The acceptable kind?

Girls literally hanging onto other kids coats and begging to be included. My husband saw it on a field trip. Girls making up stories and running to the teachers in order to get the “cooler” kids in trouble.

Isn’t that just age appropriate behavior? Can’t you just tell your child to ignore it?

To clarify, it’s okay for less popular kids to talk trash about popular kids and try to get them in trouble, but not vice versa? Not to mention the physical assault. A child literally tore my daughters sleeve. That’s the hill you want to die on?

It’s your hill. I’m just trying to clarify why it’s age appropriate for some kids to tell others they can’t play or to tease them at recess but not age appropriate for other kids to try to get kids into trouble? Girls will be girls, right? Just tell her to ignore it.

My kids are doing just fine. I’m just pointing out the inconsistency in your argument. I don’t think it’s ok for a child to physically assault others. I also think it’s fine that you don’t have to be best friends with everyone. Kind and respectful, yes. But the people on here arguing everyone should be besties don’t live in reality.

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Anonymous wrote:My unpopular opinion is most of these girls aren’t actually “mean.” “Mean girl” is what they get called by the moms who are intimidated by and hate their moms and transfer it to the daughters.

Agree. I always roll my eyes when I see these posts. The “mean girls” are just girls that aren’t interested in OP’s daughter. Nothing mean is actually happening. Same with the moms. Is another mom really being “mean” to you at school drop off? C’mon. So dumb.

And there are always posts like yours to roll my eyes at. You just cannot believe there are girls who don’t want to be friends with the mean girls. They just want the mean girls to go away.

Then those kids should stop engaging. Your kid isn’t trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Your kid is in the mix as well.

Those kids are not engaging. They are minding their own business when some mean girl and her friends sit down at lunch and start talking smack about her right in front of her as if she isn’t there. Not my child, BTW, so I can be objective in this situation. There are mean kids who seek out others just to be mean. You really don’t get this, do you?

That’s not how the mean behavior has gone down in my kids ES. Maybe it’s different where you are. You don’t have to bash people for having a different lived experience.

How does it go down? What sort of mean behavior (your words)? The acceptable kind?

Girls literally hanging onto other kids coats and begging to be included. My husband saw it on a field trip. Girls making up stories and running to the teachers in order to get the “cooler” kids in trouble.

Something like this happened to our child. We had to get a therapist to call the teachers to explain that when children are mean, regardless of who is more popular, the children they are mean to should ask for space and walk away. It’s a healthy skill