Do you love your children more than your pets?

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Anonymous wrote:This argument is so pointless and mean minded too. You ladies want to hold out some kind of moral superiority for the way you love your children and are acting as though you are blind to the obvious reality that billions of people don’t love their kids all that much or else we wouldn’t have billions of abused and formerly abused children walking this earth.

‘Love’ is a feeling created by hormones and neurons in a complex reaction in the human brain. There is nothing moral about it.

Of course humans can experience the same exact complex reaction in their brains about animals or other humans unrelated to them etc.

Just like spawning doesn’t automatically compel a human to healthy parenting, it doesn’t automatically confer a greater capacity for experiencing ‘love’ in the human brain than exists in human brains whose bodies never spawn. All certitude to the contrary is just made up social convention BS, no matter how vehemently you believe it or preach it.

Science, ladies.


👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽Exactly this.

A lot of the mothers on this website have this inherent need to use their motherhood as a throne upon which they sit and judge other women.

It reeks of insecurity, and it’s just stupid.


And they do it to women who are infertile, which is unbelievably cruel.


f you use a dog as a surrogate child you deserve all the derision that is heaped on you. I don’t care if it’s because you’re infertile.

Also you talk about “spawning” like it’s nothing special but the cold truth is that not everyone who wants to can get pregnant and carry the pregnancy to term


Okay so you made not just one, but two comments to reiterate how special and sometimes difficult it is to give birth to a child and STILL crap all over women who can't....because they might love their dogs. On a pet forum.

My question is why? You're the winner who gets to be a real mother! You're not some sad woman who never got to experience this amazing thing, and maybe spent many terrible years and all her money trying. So you see this tragic woman who couldn't do this special thing that not everyone can do, but you could do, and maybe she's cuddling her dog who she seems to really really love. And let's assume that she loves her dog so much not because she just loves her dog but because she doesn't have children too. You think that this sad lady deserves...derision. Heaped on her.

You're right, being a mother is a very special thing. And you're right that not everyone can do it. This is a cold, hard truth. And so you feel that a woman who has to live with this truth, and happens to love her pet, deserves not understanding, or grace, or even some pity, but scorn.

Are you the kind of person who kicks a sleeping man in the nuts when you walk past him? Because I truly don't understand this thinking. You've won! You're a real mother! The most negative thing that you should feel toward the "losers" is pity. But for some reason you're angry and hateful.

That pp is hateful, but mostly, I think this thread just shows that there are different fundamental approaches to love. Some people are just extremely loving. They give love freely and love many. Other people have strict criteria for who is deserving of their love. They limit it to a very small inner circle. There is no right or wrong here, just different personality types.


That PP is very hateful and I recognize their posting style. They're usually ranting about dog strollers here and don't seem to understand things like aging pets with cancer who want to be out and giving them a nice life. It is BEYOND unfathomable that some of us treat our pets like family. Frankly, really unhinged. (I have kids and pets, before PP comes to call me a pathetic barren spinster). Jeff would have to confirm but I suspect this might also be one of the posters who is planning on disinheriting any of their kids who don't give them grandchildren. Small circle indeed, with very strict criteria! I don't know what kind of mother this person is, but her commitment to "punching down" doesn't say kind things. (Love to go around type, here).


There are multiple people who don’t think dogs are equivalent to humans. I personally have a young child and while I do hope for grandchildren one day I will support my child in choosing their own path in life which may or may not include becoming a parent. So try again!
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Anonymous wrote:This argument is so pointless and mean minded too. You ladies want to hold out some kind of moral superiority for the way you love your children and are acting as though you are blind to the obvious reality that billions of people don’t love their kids all that much or else we wouldn’t have billions of abused and formerly abused children walking this earth.

‘Love’ is a feeling created by hormones and neurons in a complex reaction in the human brain. There is nothing moral about it.

Of course humans can experience the same exact complex reaction in their brains about animals or other humans unrelated to them etc.

Just like spawning doesn’t automatically compel a human to healthy parenting, it doesn’t automatically confer a greater capacity for experiencing ‘love’ in the human brain than exists in human brains whose bodies never spawn. All certitude to the contrary is just made up social convention BS, no matter how vehemently you believe it or preach it.

Science, ladies.


👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽Exactly this.

A lot of the mothers on this website have this inherent need to use their motherhood as a throne upon which they sit and judge other women.

It reeks of insecurity, and it’s just stupid.


And they do it to women who are infertile, which is unbelievably cruel.


f you use a dog as a surrogate child you deserve all the derision that is heaped on you. I don’t care if it’s because you’re infertile.

Also you talk about “spawning” like it’s nothing special but the cold truth is that not everyone who wants to can get pregnant and carry the pregnancy to term


Okay so you made not just one, but two comments to reiterate how special and sometimes difficult it is to give birth to a child and STILL crap all over women who can't....because they might love their dogs. On a pet forum.

My question is why? You're the winner who gets to be a real mother! You're not some sad woman who never got to experience this amazing thing, and maybe spent many terrible years and all her money trying. So you see this tragic woman who couldn't do this special thing that not everyone can do, but you could do, and maybe she's cuddling her dog who she seems to really really love. And let's assume that she loves her dog so much not because she just loves her dog but because she doesn't have children too. You think that this sad lady deserves...derision. Heaped on her.

You're right, being a mother is a very special thing. And you're right that not everyone can do it. This is a cold, hard truth. And so you feel that a woman who has to live with this truth, and happens to love her pet, deserves not understanding, or grace, or even some pity, but scorn.

Are you the kind of person who kicks a sleeping man in the nuts when you walk past him? Because I truly don't understand this thinking. You've won! You're a real mother! The most negative thing that you should feel toward the "losers" is pity. But for some reason you're angry and hateful.

That pp is hateful, but mostly, I think this thread just shows that there are different fundamental approaches to love. Some people are just extremely loving. They give love freely and love many. Other people have strict criteria for who is deserving of their love. They limit it to a very small inner circle. There is no right or wrong here, just different personality types.


That PP is very hateful and I recognize their posting style. They're usually ranting about dog strollers here and don't seem to understand things like aging pets with cancer who want to be out and giving them a nice life. It is BEYOND unfathomable that some of us treat our pets like family. Frankly, really unhinged. (I have kids and pets, before PP comes to call me a pathetic barren spinster). Jeff would have to confirm but I suspect this might also be one of the posters who is planning on disinheriting any of their kids who don't give them grandchildren. Small circle indeed, with very strict criteria! I don't know what kind of mother this person is, but her commitment to "punching down" doesn't say kind things. (Love to go around type, here).


There are multiple people who don’t think dogs are equivalent to humans. I personally have a young child and while I do hope for grandchildren one day I will support my child in choosing their own path in life which may or may not include becoming a parent. So try again!

I don’t think my dog is the equivalent to a human child. I prioritize my actual children above my dog. However, I’m not sure that I love my dog any less than my children. I love him for what he is. He doesn’t have to be my child for me to love him intensely. He’s a living thing who is dependent on me. I chose to make him a member of my family. He may rank the lowest in our household, but he’s still a member of our household.
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Is this a serious question for people? My own kids are far above the dogs. I could easily drop the dogs off at a shelter if they no longer fit into our lifestyle but I'm keeping the kids around no matter what happens
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Anonymous wrote:Is this a serious question for people? My own kids are far above the dogs. I could easily drop the dogs off at a shelter if they no longer fit into our lifestyle but I'm keeping the kids around no matter what happens

You sound like someone who shouldn’t have any dogs.
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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. I love YOUR children more than I love my pets. Human life matters most. I'd toss any dog into an alligator pit to save any of your children. I don't care how much you love your pet - their life is simply not as valuable as that of a human. I have four rescue pets and I absolutely adore each and every one. I spend tons of money to keep them healthy, happy, and safe. But if one bites my kid? If my kid develops and allergy? Those pets are gone.


Slow clap. Here is the right answer!



Yes, thank you!
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At this point in the discussion, can we recognize that all people love their pets differently, and—more importantly—the way someone loves their pet is absolutely no reflection on how much you love your own child?

There is no need to get upset because someone feels that they love their pet as they would a child.

Both types of love are valid and can exist independently in one world.
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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. I love YOUR children more than I love my pets. Human life matters most. I'd toss any dog into an alligator pit to save any of your children. I don't care how much you love your pet - their life is simply not as valuable as that of a human. I have four rescue pets and I absolutely adore each and every one. I spend tons of money to keep them healthy, happy, and safe. But if one bites my kid? If my kid develops and allergy? Those pets are gone.


This post makes me believe that there is sanity in the DCUM world. Thank you.
Yes, I've put my own life on the line to save another human. And for my kids, or your kids, it's not even a question. For a dog? Never. It would never, ever, not once cross my mind or be an option. When my pet passed, I was sad but moved on. If god forbid something happened to a child of mine, life would end.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this a serious question for people? My own kids are far above the dogs. I could easily drop the dogs off at a shelter if they no longer fit into our lifestyle but I'm keeping the kids around no matter what happens

You sound like someone who shouldn’t have any dogs.


Why, because she treats dogs as pets, which is what they are?
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Anonymous wrote:Is this a serious question for people? My own kids are far above the dogs. I could easily drop the dogs off at a shelter if they no longer fit into our lifestyle but I'm keeping the kids around no matter what happens

You sound like someone who shouldn’t have any dogs.


Why, because she treats dogs as pets, which is what they are?

Don’t be disingenuous. She said she “could easily drop the dogs off at a shelter if they no longer fit into our lifestyle.” Easily. It’s not hard to say that you love your kids more than your dogs when you don’t love your dogs very much, if at all.
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What a spectrum! Some of you should never have dogs, some of you should not have kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Is this a serious question for people? My own kids are far above the dogs. I could easily drop the dogs off at a shelter if they no longer fit into our lifestyle but I'm keeping the kids around no matter what happens


You are a shitty person. That’s all.
Anonymous
I do. However:
My tween daughter is so much drama. My younger DCs are so needy. My husband gets on my nerves at least once a week, sometimes multiple times per day.
My dog on the other hand? All love and peace and happy times. Taking her for a run in the woods or on the beach is literally my happy place.
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My beloved dog died a few weeks ago. I am very, very sad about it. Seriously grieving over his death. But my life is still going on. If it were a child, I would not be able to function. I loved my dog a lot. But dogs live short lives and we all know the deal when we get them. So, it is a different kind of love and situation.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t have children yet so I am curious.


What a question!
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Anonymous wrote:Is this a serious question for people? My own kids are far above the dogs. I could easily drop the dogs off at a shelter if they no longer fit into our lifestyle but I'm keeping the kids around no matter what happens


You are a heartless person
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