So it’s 22% tips now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:anyone who doesn't tip 100% is a cheap ass.

100% and a gift certificate to a local spa. And if you haven't researched ahead to find out their preferred spa, then you clearly don't deserve to eat out at restaurants.

Imagine the audacity of tipping the person who carried your food from the kitchen to your table and asked if you needed another round of drinks one time just 20% and then walking out the door. Cheap. Ass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in

Tipping is out of control but you’re cheap and wrong. Give 20 for good table service. Give something for takeout.

well, you do you bud. shaming won't change my mind. i am so completely done with this sh*t.

Your adult tantrum is so unattractive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What I hate the most is this strategy of shaming you or making it so awkward and uncomfortable that you are "forced" to tip higher amount. I can deal with it now but it took some getting used to.

Yes, I had to adjust the way I approach these interactions. I used to view tipping as a form of thank you or a compliment to the staff, and I was happy to provide the tip. Now that places aggressively ask for tips or provide a "default" tip on electronic transactions that I must affirmatively change, I view it as what it is -- a negotiation. It's not a thank you or a compliment, we're bargaining and your goal is to get as much of my money as possible. Well now my goal is to keep as much of my money as possible, and I'm not going to bullied or manipulated into giving more. See how that works?

You’re cheap. Make your own coffee and eat at home. Done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in

+1
Ridiculous! When I'm prompted I hit no tip. I still consider 15% decent and 20% good. If they want more then that, they need a better job. Once the employers have a hard time with staffing they will raise wages. It's called capitalism.

To raise wages they’ll raise prices, and by more than the tipped amount because it will be taxed more. But if you’d rather pay more overall just not as tips, have at it!

I'd much rather have a menu where the price is just the price

This. I wish that we could just go out to eat without having to do a stupid calculation at the end to pay servers. I'm over tipping. Employers, learn how to run a business and pay your people.

Oh no, not a “stupid calculation!” The horror! If you need help determining 10% and doubling it, let me know. It takes seconds. I’m glad to help if it spares you from this onerous, onerous task.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in

What’s your HHI?

you make enough so you should tip more is just another shaming tool.

What’s your HHI?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in

+1
Ridiculous! When I'm prompted I hit no tip. I still consider 15% decent and 20% good. If they want more then that, they need a better job. Once the employers have a hard time with staffing they will raise wages. It's called capitalism.

To raise wages they’ll raise prices, and by more than the tipped amount because it will be taxed more. But if you’d rather pay more overall just not as tips, have at it!

If that happens I’ll simply stop going out to eat. I can cook perfectly well at home.

Sounds like an excellent plan. Start today.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I hate the most is this strategy of shaming you or making it so awkward and uncomfortable that you are "forced" to tip higher amount. I can deal with it now but it took some getting used to.

Yes, I had to adjust the way I approach these interactions. I used to view tipping as a form of thank you or a compliment to the staff, and I was happy to provide the tip. Now that places aggressively ask for tips or provide a "default" tip on electronic transactions that I must affirmatively change, I view it as what it is -- a negotiation. It's not a thank you or a compliment, we're bargaining and your goal is to get as much of my money as possible. Well now my goal is to keep as much of my money as possible, and I'm not going to bullied or manipulated into giving more. See how that works?

You’re cheap. Make your own coffee and eat at home. Done.

Nope, not how it works. Call me cheap if you want, you will not shame me into tipping more. If you don't want to deal with "cheap" people like me (who pay for what we order and leave a tip, just never more than 20%), don't work in a hospitality industry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in

+1
Ridiculous! When I'm prompted I hit no tip. I still consider 15% decent and 20% good. If they want more then that, they need a better job. Once the employers have a hard time with staffing they will raise wages. It's called capitalism.

To raise wages they’ll raise prices, and by more than the tipped amount because it will be taxed more. But if you’d rather pay more overall just not as tips, have at it!

I'd much rather have a menu where the price is just the price

This. I wish that we could just go out to eat without having to do a stupid calculation at the end to pay servers. I'm over tipping. Employers, learn how to run a business and pay your people.

Oh no, not a “stupid calculation!” The horror! If you need help determining 10% and doubling it, let me know. It takes seconds. I’m glad to help if it spares you from this onerous, onerous task.

But we've been told 20% is an inadequate tip several times in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I hate the most is this strategy of shaming you or making it so awkward and uncomfortable that you are "forced" to tip higher amount. I can deal with it now but it took some getting used to.

Yes, I had to adjust the way I approach these interactions. I used to view tipping as a form of thank you or a compliment to the staff, and I was happy to provide the tip. Now that places aggressively ask for tips or provide a "default" tip on electronic transactions that I must affirmatively change, I view it as what it is -- a negotiation. It's not a thank you or a compliment, we're bargaining and your goal is to get as much of my money as possible. Well now my goal is to keep as much of my money as possible, and I'm not going to bullied or manipulated into giving more. See how that works?

You’re cheap. Make your own coffee and eat at home. Done.

Nope, not how it works. Call me cheap if you want, you will not shame me into tipping more. If you don't want to deal with "cheap" people like me (who pay for what we order and leave a tip, just never more than 20%), don't work in a hospitality industry.

You’re tipping 10-15% max

[Anonymous]

Are you people really tipping 25% after all the taxes and fees? Would that not then become a 30-33% tip? Where does it end?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm typically a lefty NPR listener, but a couple days ago I heard this piece they did that was so ridiculous in carrying water for the barista who has decided to make that his career.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/17/1187275511/tipping-minimum-wage-tips-tip-screen

Absurd.

Dude featured in the story knows what 'verboten' means and how to use it in a sentence. Him being a barista is just pure laziness. Best quote "They subsidize lower prices by paying employees less," he says. "If you aren't tipping, you are taking advantage of that labor." idiot!

He has a right to be “lazy” I.e. not to be a corporate slave!

[Anonymous]

I tip 18-20ish% on sit down service.

I’ll inconsistently do a couple bucks to as much as 10% at restaurants I especially like for pick up.

0-a few bucks, inconsistently, for pick up at random restaurants

I’ll tip small amounts on coffee shops.

And 2-5 bucks for door dash/Uber eats depending on size of order/distance. They shouldn’t get tipped differently if I get a cheeseburger or a filet.

I could afford to do more, but guess what? I don’t care. I’m purchasing goods and services, set your price accordingly to pay your employees sufficiently to retain them. It’s not charity work to order food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I hate the most is this strategy of shaming you or making it so awkward and uncomfortable that you are "forced" to tip higher amount. I can deal with it now but it took some getting used to.

Yes, I had to adjust the way I approach these interactions. I used to view tipping as a form of thank you or a compliment to the staff, and I was happy to provide the tip. Now that places aggressively ask for tips or provide a "default" tip on electronic transactions that I must affirmatively change, I view it as what it is -- a negotiation. It's not a thank you or a compliment, we're bargaining and your goal is to get as much of my money as possible. Well now my goal is to keep as much of my money as possible, and I'm not going to bullied or manipulated into giving more. See how that works?

You’re cheap. Make your own coffee and eat at home. Done.

I’m engaging in a transaction with your business owner. I am not running a charity or a subsidy for your boss. If you don’t like your wages talk to your manager or quit. I DGAF. It’s not my job to pay you more to keep you happy. I have no skin in the game regarding your retention.

[Anonymous]

Are you people really tipping 25% after all the taxes and fees? Would that not then become a 30-33% tip? Where does it end?

This. I am happy to tip customary amounts for sit-down restaurant service (depending upon the quality of said service), but I see no reason why consumers should accept "tip inflation." I would never let a machine determine the amount of a tip. I usually pay cash, anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can afford it.

Not the point.