So it’s 22% tips now

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Anonymous wrote:I'm typically a lefty NPR listener, but a couple days ago I heard this piece they did that was so ridiculous in carrying water for the barista who has decided to make that his career.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/17/1187275511/tipping-minimum-wage-tips-tip-screen

Absurd.

Dude featured in the story knows what 'verboten' means and how to use it in a sentence. Him being a barista is just pure laziness. Best quote "They subsidize lower prices by paying employees less," he says. "If you aren't tipping, you are taking advantage of that labor." idiot!

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Anonymous wrote:My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

Absolutely. Tip whatever you think they deserve. It is "your" money after all.

My kids make far less than that and live in shared housing with roommates in DC. They tip 25 percent.

I mean, they can do what they want, but they’re being silly. They need to tip decently (which is 20%) but more, routinely, is a waste.

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Anonymous wrote:My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

Absolutely. Tip whatever you think they deserve. It is "your" money after all.

My kids make far less than that and live in shared housing with roommates in DC. They tip 25 percent.

If you know how much your kids tip when they go out, you need to step back. That sounds very wrong.

You could only wish you had the same kind of relationship with your kids that I have with mine. We see each other all the time and they don’t expect us to pick up the tab every time. That’s how I know how they tip. That’s how their roommates tip too. That’s how generous people conduct themselves in real life.

Yeah, i don't know how much my kids tip. I usually take them out and pay. You should try sometime.

Yea and if they knew how cheap you were they’d be horrified. They probably add to the tip when you’re not looking. That’s what we used to do when our Australian friends took us to dinner.

I doubt that. They are 7 and 9.

Then your snippy retort “you should try that some time” is beyond silly. Your kids aren’t adults.

What you ARE though, is that nightmare table that nobody wants to wait on. You know, a lady with two little kids who make a huge mess eating their low cost kids’ meals only to be stiffed by their cheap ass mother.

Are you having fun? Keep going. I am enjoying reading it. Weirdo.

I mean, it’s true isn’t it? You inflict your kids on a busy server and then get all cheap ass with the tip. Right? What’s incorrect about this statement?

Yeah sure. That's exactly what I do. I got me there. LOL. What else? You are like a mind reader.

Yep. And when you take them out, you tend to go to the same places because that’s what kids like. So you’re known in these places. You’re known by the servers as the cheap ass mother who inflicts her kids on the staff only to leave a lousy tip.

Truth.

Yes, yes, that's me. You are good but that's the same thing you said already... Repetition is kinda boring. What else PP?

Being that selfish and knowing it is really sad. This much is is definitely true: I’m a far better parent.

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Anonymous wrote:My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

Absolutely. Tip whatever you think they deserve. It is "your" money after all.

My kids make far less than that and live in shared housing with roommates in DC. They tip 25 percent.

Well yeah— they are single and childless, and they live in cheap as dirt group housing. I also tipped generously in that time of my life. I could eat ramen or PB&J all week, then go out on the weekend and pretend I was a Rockefeller.

Then I grew up. I had to save up for a down payment, get serious about retirement savings. I had a kid. I can’t live in group housing anymore. I can’t live off ramen noodles either. I’m a full grown adult, I have to weigh how I spend my money, and a 25% service in mediocre service at a restaurant with QR code ordering is not a wise choice.

Your kids aren’t generous. They live only for themselves. They tip well to ensure good service at the places they frequent, or to impress people (including their mom).

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It's whatever I think is appropriate for that meal.

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Anonymous wrote:My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

Absolutely. Tip whatever you think they deserve. It is "your" money after all.

My kids make far less than that and live in shared housing with roommates in DC. They tip 25 percent.

If you know how much your kids tip when they go out, you need to step back. That sounds very wrong.

You could only wish you had the same kind of relationship with your kids that I have with mine. We see each other all the time and they don’t expect us to pick up the tab every time. That’s how I know how they tip. That’s how their roommates tip too. That’s how generous people conduct themselves in real life.

Yeah, i don't know how much my kids tip. I usually take them out and pay. You should try sometime.

DP Almost every time I go out to eat with my adult daughter she picks up the check. She is very generous to her mother and also to those who wait on her. Maybe you can't try this sometime because your adult kids don't do that, that's why I'm sharing it with you. Maybe someday it will happen to you if you model generosity to them.

Stop being a mooch.

I’d be embarrassed to have my kids pick up the check. I have piles of savings. They have to save for houses, kids schools, retirement, etc. I would never leech off them.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm typically a lefty NPR listener, but a couple days ago I heard this piece they did that was so ridiculous in carrying water for the barista who has decided to make that his career.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/17/1187275511/tipping-minimum-wage-tips-tip-screen

Absurd.

Dude featured in the story knows what 'verboten' means and how to use it in a sentence. Him being a barista is just pure laziness. Best quote "They subsidize lower prices by paying employees less," he says. "If you aren't tipping, you are taking advantage of that labor." idiot!

Instead of shaming and putting the pressure on customers to pay fair wages for wait staff, how about an article saying that "restaurant owners" are paying unfair wages to their employees. They should no longer pay them minimum wage, because of high inflation, low legal requirements and customer's inability/unwillingness to pay sky high tips

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Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in

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Ridiculous! When I'm prompted I hit no tip. I still consider 15% decent and 20% good. If they want more then that, they need a better job. Once the employers have a hard time with staffing they will raise wages. It's called capitalism.

To raise wages they’ll raise prices, and by more than the tipped amount because it will be taxed more. But if you’d rather pay more overall just not as tips, have at it!

Cool. Then I'll just stop patronizing the establishment. And then everyone can have less of my money.

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Anonymous wrote:My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

Absolutely. Tip whatever you think they deserve. It is "your" money after all.

My kids make far less than that and live in shared housing with roommates in DC. They tip 25 percent.

Well yeah— they are single and childless, and they live in cheap as dirt group housing. I also tipped generously in that time of my life. I could eat ramen or PB&J all week, then go out on the weekend and pretend I was a Rockefeller.

Then I grew up. I had to save up for a down payment, get serious about retirement savings. I had a kid. I can’t live in group housing anymore. I can’t live off ramen noodles either. I’m a full grown adult, I have to weigh how I spend my money, and a 25% service in mediocre service at a restaurant with QR code ordering is not a wise choice.

Your kids aren’t generous. They live only for themselves. They tip well to ensure good service at the places they frequent, or to impress people (including their mom).

Nope. They’re generous and empathetic towards servers who work hard to make a living. You, on the other hand, are focused only on yourself and on being cheap.

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Anonymous wrote:My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

Absolutely. Tip whatever you think they deserve. It is "your" money after all.

My kids make far less than that and live in shared housing with roommates in DC. They tip 25 percent.

Well yeah— they are single and childless, and they live in cheap as dirt group housing. I also tipped generously in that time of my life. I could eat ramen or PB&J all week, then go out on the weekend and pretend I was a Rockefeller.

Then I grew up. I had to save up for a down payment, get serious about retirement savings. I had a kid. I can’t live in group housing anymore. I can’t live off ramen noodles either. I’m a full grown adult, I have to weigh how I spend my money, and a 25% service in mediocre service at a restaurant with QR code ordering is not a wise choice.

Your kids aren’t generous. They live only for themselves. They tip well to ensure good service at the places they frequent, or to impress people (including their mom).

I should also add that I have another “kid” with two elementary school kids of her own who also tips 25 percent.

If you can’t afford to go out and treat servers the way they deserve, stay home. Cheap ass.

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Anonymous wrote:My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

Absolutely. Tip whatever you think they deserve. It is "your" money after all.

My kids make far less than that and live in shared housing with roommates in DC. They tip 25 percent.

Well yeah— they are single and childless, and they live in cheap as dirt group housing. I also tipped generously in that time of my life. I could eat ramen or PB&J all week, then go out on the weekend and pretend I was a Rockefeller.

Then I grew up. I had to save up for a down payment, get serious about retirement savings. I had a kid. I can’t live in group housing anymore. I can’t live off ramen noodles either. I’m a full grown adult, I have to weigh how I spend my money, and a 25% service in mediocre service at a restaurant with QR code ordering is not a wise choice.

Your kids aren’t generous. They live only for themselves. They tip well to ensure good service at the places they frequent, or to impress people (including their mom).

I should also add that I have another “kid” with two elementary school kids of her own who also tips 25 percent.

If you can’t afford to go out and treat servers the way they deserve, stay home. Cheap ass.

Listen, if you and your family want to tip people a quarter of every bill, you are more than welcome to. Go for it.

The idea that every person eating out at a restaurant is REQUIRED to tip 25% is batshit crazy insane, and your sanctimony about what you and your family do does not change that. A person is not "cheap" if they cannot add a full 25% to the a bill that is already a good 20% higher than it was a few years ago due to inflation. They are a normal person on a budget. People do not have "infinity" dollars to spend when they go out, and the expectation that everyone be able to tip an amount that 10 years ago would have been considered an unusually large tip is insane.

So here's a tip for you: you're the only ass in this conversation, and your kids really are generous if they haven't told you as much by now.

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I add 25% to all my Amazon purchases for the guys working in the warehouse. Anyone who doesn’t is a cheap ass.

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Anonymous wrote:My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

Absolutely. Tip whatever you think they deserve. It is "your" money after all.

My kids make far less than that and live in shared housing with roommates in DC. They tip 25 percent.

Well yeah— they are single and childless, and they live in cheap as dirt group housing. I also tipped generously in that time of my life. I could eat ramen or PB&J all week, then go out on the weekend and pretend I was a Rockefeller.

Then I grew up. I had to save up for a down payment, get serious about retirement savings. I had a kid. I can’t live in group housing anymore. I can’t live off ramen noodles either. I’m a full grown adult, I have to weigh how I spend my money, and a 25% service in mediocre service at a restaurant with QR code ordering is not a wise choice.

Your kids aren’t generous. They live only for themselves. They tip well to ensure good service at the places they frequent, or to impress people (including their mom).

I should also add that I have another “kid” with two elementary school kids of her own who also tips 25 percent.

If you can’t afford to go out and treat servers the way they deserve, stay home. Cheap ass.

What made you decide that 25% is “what they deserve” and the bare minimum? Where did you come up with this number? Why aren’t you tipping 50%?

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anyone who doesn't tip 100% is a cheap ass.

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Anonymous wrote:anyone who doesn't tip 100% is a cheap ass.

Nah you should just buy the product but immediately donate it to the person helping you. They need it more!