Metro warns of huge budget deficits and a death spiral

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare (more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Just because you appear to always have your head in the sand while commuting doesn't mean these things don't happen daily.

There was a group of teens harassing two moms on Monday. One mom sat down in a seat that the teens had deemed was "their zone" even though no one in their group was using it.

"Is this bish really gona sit right here? On today? On the day of our freedom? I know you wildin!" "yo, it's Juneteenth, you can't be here - MOVE!" The woman stood up and moved with her stroller to the other end of the car along with the other woman. They both got off at the next stop.

I see mentally ill/homeless people causing trouble at least once a week. I see dudes jerking off at least once month. These things are not rare.

Avoid certain Metro lines that serve neighborhoods with trashy low-lifes and you’ll have a different experience. Problem is the local political leaders want trash everywhere now.

So avoid the metro except for maybe the silver line? Reread your post, it’s just saying to drive instead of metro.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare(more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Don't believe you.

You seriously think it's impossible to ride Metro daily without witnessing a crime? I don't know how valuable anecdotal evidence is here, but for what it's worth, I also have never seen a real crime on Metro, in more than 20 years of more or less daily commuting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare (more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Just because you appear to always have your head in the sand while commuting doesn't mean these things don't happen daily.

There was a group of teens harassing two moms on Monday. One mom sat down in a seat that the teens had deemed was "their zone" even though no one in their group was using it.

"Is this bish really gona sit right here? On today? On the day of our freedom? I know you wildin!" "yo, it's Juneteenth, you can't be here - MOVE!" The woman stood up and moved with her stroller to the other end of the car along with the other woman. They both got off at the next stop.

I see mentally ill/homeless people causing trouble at least once a week. I see dudes jerking off at least once month. These things are not rare.

Avoid certain Metro lines that serve neighborhoods with trashy low-lifes and you’ll have a different experience. Problem is the local political leaders want trash everywhere now.

So avoid the metro except for maybe the silver line? Reread your post, it’s just saying to drive instead of metro.

I'm kind of lol-ing at all of the posts about public transit from posters who hate the public, hate transit, and never use public transit.

I've never played golf, I don't see the point of golf, I think that golf is probably a force of evil in the world on net, I think I'm going to go post on all of the threads related to golf on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare (more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Just because you appear to always have your head in the sand while commuting doesn't mean these things don't happen daily.

There was a group of teens harassing two moms on Monday. One mom sat down in a seat that the teens had deemed was "their zone" even though no one in their group was using it.

"Is this bish really gona sit right here? On today? On the day of our freedom? I know you wildin!" "yo, it's Juneteenth, you can't be here - MOVE!" The woman stood up and moved with her stroller to the other end of the car along with the other woman. They both got off at the next stop.

I see mentally ill/homeless people causing trouble at least once a week. I see dudes jerking off at least once month. These things are not rare.

Avoid certain Metro lines that serve neighborhoods with trashy low-lifes and you’ll have a different experience. Problem is the local political leaders want trash everywhere now.

So avoid the metro except for maybe the silver line? Reread your post, it’s just saying to drive instead of metro.

I'm kind of lol-ing at all of the posts about public transit from posters who hate the public, hate transit, and never use public transit.

I've never played golf, I don't see the point of golf, I think that golf is probably a force of evil in the world on net, I think I'm going to go post on all of the threads related to golf on DCUM.

We get it. You enjoy your daily rides with the serial masturbators on the trains while on your way to work every morning. Many of us who are sane though would rather drive than be subjected to that kind of entertainment on a regular basis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare (more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Just because you appear to always have your head in the sand while commuting doesn't mean these things don't happen daily.

There was a group of teens harassing two moms on Monday. One mom sat down in a seat that the teens had deemed was "their zone" even though no one in their group was using it.

"Is this bish really gona sit right here? On today? On the day of our freedom? I know you wildin!" "yo, it's Juneteenth, you can't be here - MOVE!" The woman stood up and moved with her stroller to the other end of the car along with the other woman. They both got off at the next stop.

I see mentally ill/homeless people causing trouble at least once a week. I see dudes jerking off at least once month. These things are not rare.

Avoid certain Metro lines that serve neighborhoods with trashy low-lifes and you’ll have a different experience. Problem is the local political leaders want trash everywhere now.

So avoid the metro except for maybe the silver line? Reread your post, it’s just saying to drive instead of metro.

I'm kind of lol-ing at all of the posts about public transit from posters who hate the public, hate transit, and never use public transit.

I've never played golf, I don't see the point of golf, I think that golf is probably a force of evil in the world on net, I think I'm going to go post on all of the threads related to golf on DCUM.

We get it. You enjoy your daily rides with the serial masturbators on the trains while on your way to work every morning. Many of us who are sane though would rather drive than be subjected to that kind of entertainment on a regular basis.

GOLF! I HATE GOLF! GOLF IS TERRIBLE! BAD GOLF! BAD GOLF! BAD!

-you, except about public transportation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare (more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Just because you appear to always have your head in the sand while commuting doesn't mean these things don't happen daily.

There was a group of teens harassing two moms on Monday. One mom sat down in a seat that the teens had deemed was "their zone" even though no one in their group was using it.

"Is this bish really gona sit right here? On today? On the day of our freedom? I know you wildin!" "yo, it's Juneteenth, you can't be here - MOVE!" The woman stood up and moved with her stroller to the other end of the car along with the other woman. They both got off at the next stop.

I see mentally ill/homeless people causing trouble at least once a week. I see dudes jerking off at least once month. These things are not rare.

Avoid certain Metro lines that serve neighborhoods with trashy low-lifes and you’ll have a different experience. Problem is the local political leaders want trash everywhere now.

So avoid the metro except for maybe the silver line? Reread your post, it’s just saying to drive instead of metro.

I'm kind of lol-ing at all of the posts about public transit from posters who hate the public, hate transit, and never use public transit.

I've never played golf, I don't see the point of golf, I think that golf is probably a force of evil in the world on net, I think I'm going to go post on all of the threads related to golf on DCUM.

We get it. You enjoy your daily rides with the serial masturbators on the trains while on your way to work every morning. Many of us who are sane though would rather drive than be subjected to that kind of entertainment on a regular basis.

GOLF! I HATE GOLF! GOLF IS TERRIBLE! BAD GOLF! BAD GOLF! BAD!

-you, except about public transportation

It's really cute that you think that the PP is going to engage in self-reflection about their rabid hatred of public transportation. They're not looking to have a conversation, they just desperately want to feel superior to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare (more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Just because you appear to always have your head in the sand while commuting doesn't mean these things don't happen daily.

There was a group of teens harassing two moms on Monday. One mom sat down in a seat that the teens had deemed was "their zone" even though no one in their group was using it.

"Is this bish really gona sit right here? On today? On the day of our freedom? I know you wildin!" "yo, it's Juneteenth, you can't be here - MOVE!" The woman stood up and moved with her stroller to the other end of the car along with the other woman. They both got off at the next stop.

I see mentally ill/homeless people causing trouble at least once a week. I see dudes jerking off at least once month. These things are not rare.

Avoid certain Metro lines that serve neighborhoods with trashy low-lifes and you’ll have a different experience. Problem is the local political leaders want trash everywhere now.

So avoid the metro except for maybe the silver line? Reread your post, it’s just saying to drive instead of metro.

I'm kind of lol-ing at all of the posts about public transit from posters who hate the public, hate transit, and never use public transit.

I've never played golf, I don't see the point of golf, I think that golf is probably a force of evil in the world on net, I think I'm going to go post on all of the threads related to golf on DCUM.

We get it. You enjoy your daily rides with the serial masturbators on the trains while on your way to work every morning. Many of us who are sane though would rather drive than be subjected to that kind of entertainment on a regular basis.

GOLF! I HATE GOLF! GOLF IS TERRIBLE! BAD GOLF! BAD GOLF! BAD!

-you, except about public transportation

It's really cute that you think that the PP is going to engage in self-reflection about their rabid hatred of public transportation. They're not looking to have a conversation, they just desperately want to feel superior to you.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I don't have any expectations about their self-reflection. I just like typing in capital letters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare(more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Don't believe you.

You seriously think it's impossible to ride Metro daily without witnessing a crime? I don't know how valuable anecdotal evidence is here, but for what it's worth, I also have never seen a real crime on Metro, in more than 20 years of more or less daily commuting.

Do you consider smoking a joint a crime? If so, I don't know how you can ride metro much and not see/smell it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare(more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Don't believe you.

You seriously think it's impossible to ride Metro daily without witnessing a crime? I don't know how valuable anecdotal evidence is here, but for what it's worth, I also have never seen a real crime on Metro, in more than 20 years of more or less daily commuting.

Do you consider smoking a joint a crime? If so, I don't know how you can ride metro much and not see/smell it.

Commuting hours and off peak hours are a completely different ballgame on the metro so that’s probably how. Not PP, but I commuted on it for a few years and it was just workers going about their business. I only ever saw weird behavior on weekends and it was still pretty uncommon. I don’t take it much anymore (no commute) but it’s always fine when I do. My spouse still commutes and has not witnessed crime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people complaining about metro are living in an alternate reality. I have taken metro almost daily for 20 years. I’ve never seen a real crime. Never seen anyone masturbating. Stinkiness is rare(more common in the summer afternoon/evening—I do wish male workers would wear more reasonable clothes for DC summers). Loud music only once or twice in twenty minutes years. Have seen mentally ill people doing something troublesome a few times in twenty years.
I don’t know what Mad Max scenario these metro critics are envisioning but it does not match my experience. And it is still cheaper than downtown parking.
Fwiw, I’m a middle aged white lady from the suburbs and probably more crime averse than average. I wouldn’t ride around the city by msyself at midnight but commuting is totally fine.

Don't believe you.

You seriously think it's impossible to ride Metro daily without witnessing a crime? I don't know how valuable anecdotal evidence is here, but for what it's worth, I also have never seen a real crime on Metro, in more than 20 years of more or less daily commuting.

Do you consider smoking a joint a crime? If so, I don't know how you can ride metro much and not see/smell it.

DP. I regularly witness crimes while I'm driving, specifically impaired driving and reckless driving, which could seriously injure or kill me.

[Anonymous]

Thought of this thread.

Metro Passenger Dies After Trying to Ride On Top of Train
https://mocoshow.com/blog/metro-passenger-dies-after-trying-to-ride-on-top-of-train/?fbclid=IwAR2QQS6QlOmKILf9jNaq3e1CJ-CeqwuSqZ3Tw61Zg9aMyAxh_qlxSWKFQgg

I stopped riding the metro to work about 18 years ago. I hardly ride it anymore.

I tend to read stuff online and roll my eyes thinking people just exaggerate so much.

My daughter rode the metro into DC the other day and I picked her up at night (from the suburbs no less!). Gotta admit - the people hanging around the metro station were skeevy. Did not feel comfortable at all.

Ended up riding the metro last week. Haven't been on the metro in years. Was surprised how not clean it looked. I didn't see anyone evade the fares so there is that.

But one or two of my fellow riders - weird, weird, weird behavior. Anti-social behavior.

Does this mean I've fully embraced the Karen from the suburbs vibe? Because, I don't want to be in a close car with anti-social behavior.

What the heck is going on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thought of this thread.

Metro Passenger Dies After Trying to Ride On Top of Train
https://mocoshow.com/blog/metro-passenger-dies-after-trying-to-ride-on-top-of-train/?fbclid=IwAR2QQS6QlOmKILf9jNaq3e1CJ-CeqwuSqZ3Tw61Zg9aMyAxh_qlxSWKFQgg

I stopped riding the metro to work about 18 years ago. I hardly ride it anymore.

I tend to read stuff online and roll my eyes thinking people just exaggerate so much.

My daughter rode the metro into DC the other day and I picked her up at night (from the suburbs no less!). Gotta admit - the people hanging around the metro station were skeevy. Did not feel comfortable at all.

Ended up riding the metro last week. Haven't been on the metro in years. Was surprised how not clean it looked. I didn't see anyone evade the fares so there is that.

But one or two of my fellow riders - weird, weird, weird behavior. Anti-social behavior.

Does this mean I've fully embraced the Karen from the suburbs vibe? Because, I don't want to be in a close car with anti-social behavior.

What the heck is going on?

Honestly? Yeah, probably.

I'm commuting on the metro four days/week, as well as pretty frequent off-peak rides, and have been for the past 15 years or so. Aside from farebeaters being a bit more common, riding feels just as safe as it did when I was a fresh-faced college grad.

In any event, it's an order of magnitude safer than driving. I guess it's all about your personal sense of agency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the reality of public transit:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/traffic/mission-metro/metro-warns-massive-service-cuts-death-spiral-transit-750-million-shortfall/65-9c0dc54f-8f65-46c4-8390-51e8108ac1a5


Where are the anti-car fascists now? Have fun going to work or doing things on the weekend. The anti-car crowd loves to give pie in the sky calculations that never account for human factors like crime, overrun costs, inefficiencies, and huge bloated salaries and benefits for the unionized workers bankrupting the system. So glad we are spending billions more on this black hole with the purple line. Watch, the only solution they’ll come up with is to increase taxes and to increase fares to outrageous prices. It has never dawned on them to start with common sense ideas like increasing safety and severely punishing fare evaders. Why should anyone pay of a huge portion of people ride for free already?

You make a good point. Perhaps public transportation should receive equal amounts of public subsidy as the road network does for personal car users. Only 33% about of road spending in tmDC is paid for by usage fees/taxes on gas, tags, etc. So whatever metro is making in user fees, we can multiply that by three and then DC, VA, and MD can kick in 2/3rd of that out of general fund.

[Anonymous]

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OP is a troll.

Metros and subways have had these sorts of problems in every large city of the western world. I lived in Paris for years, and they had the same problems. Every morning I'd see teens jumping the fare gate, even with the gate blockers.

Guess what? The metro never dies. Never. It can be stinky, overcrowded, chronically underfunded, occasionally dangerous, and rarely given to fatal accidents...

But it will always be there, because it fills a critical need for large cities.

So you can stamp your feet all you want, OP. The Metro is not going away.

Right on, comrade! All these dummy carbains can rot being stuck on i66 in traffic. I will be happily reading my book on the orange line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the reality of public transit:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/traffic/mission-metro/metro-warns-massive-service-cuts-death-spiral-transit-750-million-shortfall/65-9c0dc54f-8f65-46c4-8390-51e8108ac1a5


Where are the anti-car fascists now? Have fun going to work or doing things on the weekend. The anti-car crowd loves to give pie in the sky calculations that never account for human factors like crime, overrun costs, inefficiencies, and huge bloated salaries and benefits for the unionized workers bankrupting the system. So glad we are spending billions more on this black hole with the purple line. Watch, the only solution they’ll come up with is to increase taxes and to increase fares to outrageous prices. It has never dawned on them to start with common sense ideas like increasing safety and severely punishing fare evaders. Why should anyone pay of a huge portion of people ride for free already?

They are cracking down severely on fare evaders. And you do realize that for everyone who rides metro, you're taking a car off the road. That's less congestion on every major road.