Meeting new people and wish there was a MAGA or J6 code word

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Anonymous wrote:In short, if you meet an immigrant, by default they aren’t progressive/liberal. Some are but they will let you know about it

I’m the immigrant who wrote about why I vote Republican and how I want to be left alone. Your rule of thumb is honestly not a bad one. Most immigrants reject the nonsense social agenda of Democrats. I’ll never understand why we’re expected to subscribe to gibberish made up by mentally unstable white people who are to the left of Fidel Castro. Just because THEY have attached themselves to US because they’re always seeking reinforcements in their neverending war on polite society doesn’t mean that WE like THEM.


That arrogance is why they’re always caught off guard when immigrants buck the liberal BS at the first opportunity and vote conservative.

You're deranged. But fortunately you do not speak for all immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

Think of why immigrants are here. So many have escaped brutal regimes that have stepped on individual rights (being kind), have no regulation of industry (think child labor), taking the majority of the money they earn, don’t have the opportunity for health care (why do you think charitable medical organizations like Operation Smile exist?) and are from all religious sects (and often murdered for it). Gun violence? Please. They are hacked to death by machetes, burned to death, put in front of firing squads by their own leaders, and live with violence you can’t even imagine.

You sit in your comparatively luxurious home with the world of opportunity at your feet and dare to judge why others might not see your leftist point of view? And judge them when they see the country they escaped to turning into where they left?

Why do you think we have regulation to protect against child labor, to protect the environment, to protect against unsafe business practices, why do you thinks we have civil rights and religious tolerance in America? It's because of LIBERAL politicians. You seem myopic and very confused.

Really now? Because if you look at what’s going on with child labor now (all those migrant kids dems lost….), ridiculous tyrannical laws taking and controlling land from homeowners, the firing of people who don’t ‘agree with me’, I would say that liberal politicians have a way of leaning towards tyranny that republicans do not. As for religious tolerance, that’s a Constitutional right. Civil rights are covered in the Declaration of Independence as well, but it seems a bunch of Democrats in the 1800s decided they didn’t like the Constitution or Preamble.

Child labor - it's REPUBLICANS who want to bring back child labor - https://inthesetimes.com/article/child-labor-laws-arkansas-iowa-gop-republicans

Lost migrant kids - it was TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS - https://www.npr.org/2022/08/11/1116917364/how-the-trump-white-house-misled-the-world-about-its-family-separation-policy

As for "tyrannical laws taking and controlling land from homeowners" - REPUBLICANS have no problem stealing land from landowners when it's to do things like build pipelines to enrich their buddies and overall, on tyranny, it's the REPUBLICANS who lean far more toward authoritarianism than Democrats do.

As for religious tolerance, it was REPUBLICANS who persecuted Muslims after 9/11, it is REPUBLICAN politicians running around pushing "this is a Christian nation" and pushing law after law based exclusively on Christian ideology at the expense of any other faith.

It was DEMOCRATS who passed all of the major civil rights legislation of the last 75 years, and the handful of Democrats who opposed civil rights legislation split off and joined the Republicans, who opposed civil rights and fought to try and keep Jim Crow laws, segregation, redlining and discrimination.

This is all a matter of well documented historical record. You are either delusional and seriously disinformed on these facts, or you are completely clueless about actual history.

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And given you know so little and are so misinformed on American politics and history it's honestly disturbing that you homeschooled your children passing along all of your own confusion and disinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

Think of why immigrants are here. So many have escaped brutal regimes that have stepped on individual rights (being kind), have no regulation of industry (think child labor), taking the majority of the money they earn, don’t have the opportunity for health care (why do you think charitable medical organizations like Operation Smile exist?) and are from all religious sects (and often murdered for it). Gun violence? Please. They are hacked to death by machetes, burned to death, put in front of firing squads by their own leaders, and live with violence you can’t even imagine.

You sit in your comparatively luxurious home with the world of opportunity at your feet and dare to judge why others might not see your leftist point of view? And judge them when they see the country they escaped to turning into where they left?

Why do you think we have regulation to protect against child labor, to protect the environment, to protect against unsafe business practices, why do you thinks we have civil rights and religious tolerance in America? It's because of LIBERAL politicians. You seem myopic and very confused.

Really now? Because if you look at what’s going on with child labor now (all those migrant kids dems lost….), ridiculous tyrannical laws taking and controlling land from homeowners, the firing of people who don’t ‘agree with me’, I would say that liberal politicians have a way of leaning towards tyranny that republicans do not. As for religious tolerance, that’s a Constitutional right. Civil rights are covered in the Declaration of Independence as well, but it seems a bunch of Democrats in the 1800s decided they didn’t like the Constitution or Preamble.

Child labor - it's REPUBLICANS who want to bring back child labor - https://inthesetimes.com/article/child-labor-laws-arkansas-iowa-gop-republicans

Lost migrant kids - it was TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS - https://www.npr.org/2022/08/11/1116917364/how-the-trump-white-house-misled-the-world-about-its-family-separation-policy

As for "tyrannical laws taking and controlling land from homeowners" - REPUBLICANS have no problem stealing land from landowners when it's to do things like build pipelines to enrich their buddies and overall, on tyranny, it's the REPUBLICANS who lean far more toward authoritarianism than Democrats do.

As for religious tolerance, it was REPUBLICANS who persecuted Muslims after 9/11, it is REPUBLICAN politicians running around pushing "this is a Christian nation" and pushing law after law based exclusively on Christian ideology at the expense of any other faith.

It was DEMOCRATS who passed all of the major civil rights legislation of the last 75 years, and the handful of Democrats who opposed civil rights legislation split off and joined the Republicans, who opposed civil rights and fought to try and keep Jim Crow laws, segregation, redlining and discrimination.

This is all a matter of well documented historical record. You are either delusional and seriously disinformed on these facts, or you are completely clueless about actual history.

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And given you know so little and are so misinformed on American politics and history it's honestly disturbing that you homeschooled your children passing along all of your own confusion and disinformation.

None of you are responding to me, the immigrant. I ignored your posts. Are you able to comprehend that there’s more than one person on this board you disagree with?

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

My views are similar to pp's. I'm not an immigrant but I'm first generation, married to a foreign born person. I think people like you, with your "I feel sorry for you" are in for a rude awakening when you figure out you're being lied to.

Are you from some country that treats to it's women like 2nd class citizens? Maybe you are used to that but the majority of voters here are pissed off about roe being overturned and intend to fight back to try to restore our daughter's rights.

NP. You are incorrect because you are hyper focused. I have a daughter in her 20s and my main focus is not whether or not she can abort. My main focus is on the rising crime in this area. In her young life, she’s already encountered some pretty dangerous situations that she’s gotten out of because she’s alert to her surroundings. It’s a pretty rude awakening when you’ve already been filmed on one occasion and followed on another, and have had to think fast to extricate yourself from danger. And this is in wealthy areas of Fairfax County. Am I surprised? No. Look at the people voted in, in this area. They lie, cover up brutal rapes in the school system, commit crimes, and the latest round of politicians (and leftist juries) think they can ‘stick it to the MAGAS’ by setting them free.

The risks of my daughter dying at the hands of one of the crazies you are setting free, letting in, or however else excusing are much greater than her risks during childbirth.

Virginia? Please. Your daughter is protected in one of the states where abortion is still legal and women's health care system has not yet begun to be destroyed. You can sit back and crap all you want on progressive policies while your family gets the protections these policies offer.

Go live in a deep Red maga state if you think it is so amazing. How about Florida where your hero is. Women's health care professionals do not want to practice in magaland. Go look up where Virgina ranks in violent crime and public education vs Florida as well. But go raise your family in deep Red magaland if it is so amazing.

Good point. Please don't destroy Virgina with more Maga nonsense. There are lots of Maga wonderlands already under Maga rule that will be happy to welcome and oppress your daughter. And they have higher violent crimebtates as well so enjoy!

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Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

Think of why immigrants are here. So many have escaped brutal regimes that have stepped on individual rights (being kind), have no regulation of industry (think child labor), taking the majority of the money they earn, don’t have the opportunity for health care (why do you think charitable medical organizations like Operation Smile exist?) and are from all religious sects (and often murdered for it). Gun violence? Please. They are hacked to death by machetes, burned to death, put in front of firing squads by their own leaders, and live with violence you can’t even imagine.

You sit in your comparatively luxurious home with the world of opportunity at your feet and dare to judge why others might not see your leftist point of view? And judge them when they see the country they escaped to turning into where they left?

Why do you think we have regulation to protect against child labor, to protect the environment, to protect against unsafe business practices, why do you thinks we have civil rights and religious tolerance in America? It's because of LIBERAL politicians. You seem myopic and very confused.

Really now? Because if you look at what’s going on with child labor now (all those migrant kids dems lost….), ridiculous tyrannical laws taking and controlling land from homeowners, the firing of people who don’t ‘agree with me’, I would say that liberal politicians have a way of leaning towards tyranny that republicans do not. As for religious tolerance, that’s a Constitutional right. Civil rights are covered in the Declaration of Independence as well, but it seems a bunch of Democrats in the 1800s decided they didn’t like the Constitution or Preamble.

Child labor - it's REPUBLICANS who want to bring back child labor - https://inthesetimes.com/article/child-labor-laws-arkansas-iowa-gop-republicans

Lost migrant kids - it was TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS - https://www.npr.org/2022/08/11/1116917364/how-the-trump-white-house-misled-the-world-about-its-family-separation-policy

As for "tyrannical laws taking and controlling land from homeowners" - REPUBLICANS have no problem stealing land from landowners when it's to do things like build pipelines to enrich their buddies and overall, on tyranny, it's the REPUBLICANS who lean far more toward authoritarianism than Democrats do.

As for religious tolerance, it was REPUBLICANS who persecuted Muslims after 9/11, it is REPUBLICAN politicians running around pushing "this is a Christian nation" and pushing law after law based exclusively on Christian ideology at the expense of any other faith.

It was DEMOCRATS who passed all of the major civil rights legislation of the last 75 years, and the handful of Democrats who opposed civil rights legislation split off and joined the Republicans, who opposed civil rights and fought to try and keep Jim Crow laws, segregation, redlining and discrimination.

This is all a matter of well documented historical record. You are either delusional and seriously disinformed on these facts, or you are completely clueless about actual history.

+1000
And given you know so little and are so misinformed on American politics and history it's honestly disturbing that you homeschooled your children passing along all of your own confusion and disinformation.

None of you are responding to me, the immigrant. I ignored your posts. Are you able to comprehend that there’s more than one person on this board you disagree with?

Do you not comprehend the very valid and accurate counterpoints made above?

Whether or not there is more than one poster here, the posts give rationales for why people should run screaming from Democrats into the embrace of MAGAs. Yet many of those rationales keep being shown to be wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

I am not against gun control, and I think the idea of limiting abortions comes straight from the Middle Ages.
I don’t like all the “woke” stuff but it’s possible to avoid it more or less. My kid is in public school so I expect him to be indoctrinated to a degree, but I come from a country where official propaganda was pretty successfully countered by the so called kitchen talks (basically dinner table conversations) so I continue this tradition with DS. And if one stays away from crazy politics (both right and left) it can be a very nice country.

[Anonymous]

"I want you Democrats to shut up while I criticize you and I don't want to be criticized for backing the GOP."

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

PP you are replying to; I am first Gen myself.
I think the whole abortion debate is stupid (of course it should be pro choice like any civilized country). I also think all this trans and lgbtq nonsense is stupid (of course they should have rights like all of us but it shouldn’t be a constant celebration or forgetting biology altogether).
I am not into politics because I think both sides have lost their minds. I will vote for Dems in the federal because I am a low earner, and I will support the most conservative candidate to be realistically elected at the local level because I am in the blue state and we should balance out the crazies with their progressive ideas but that’s too complicated to explain to a layperson so I just stick to the “I am not political” trope

But this country is not pro choice. So the threat to women is very real and very not stupid. Recent immigrants may not realize how severely women's rights have been crushed by the backwards conservatives. They have taken rights away that were in place for 50 years. Don't be ignorant.

Ok fine but what do you suggest? The whole existence of the pro life idea is super backwards. But Dems have so many crazy ideas as well, and honestly some of them are more dangerous for my family than abortion ban. If my son gets a girl pregnant she can either go to a sanctuary state for an abortion or give me the child, whatever she prefers. I am willing to help her with either option. I can’t get outraged on behalf of some woman I don’t know. However the ideas of endless masking or mandatory covid shots for young people hit close to home. The idea of letting the crazy homeless run amok is also something that has direct influence on my life. See what I am getting at?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One wonders, if these immigrants so vehemently hate such things as protecting individual rights, regulating industry, taxing appropriately, trying to control gun violence, trying to provide adequate healthcare, recognizing that not every human is cast from the identical straight white christian mold and so on, if all of this is so intolerable to them then why are they even here in the first place?

Economic opportunity, obviously. The reason most people have immigrated for throughout history. That or to escape physical violence by criminals or governments or both.

Economic opportunity all you want and good luck. If you think you are going to come here and oppress women, think again. Not here pal.

Huh? I don’t think anyone was going to do that on this thread

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

You shouldn’t. Her kids will play your kids like a fiddle when they grow up, with their head in the clouds tolerance worldview. Her kids will know things like they are and will advance without lalaland ideas

After being…. Homeschooled. By that person. I don’t think so.

They might not know when pride month is but they will know their maths and grammar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In short, if you meet an immigrant, by default they aren’t progressive/liberal. Some are but they will let you know about it

I’m the immigrant who wrote about why I vote Republican and how I want to be left alone. Your rule of thumb is honestly not a bad one. Most immigrants reject the nonsense social agenda of Democrats. I’ll never understand why we’re expected to subscribe to gibberish made up by mentally unstable white people who are to the left of Fidel Castro. Just because THEY have attached themselves to US because they’re always seeking reinforcements in their neverending war on polite society doesn’t mean that WE like THEM.


That arrogance is why they’re always caught off guard when immigrants buck the liberal BS at the first opportunity and vote conservative.

Not sure if it matters that they are white though!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In short, if you meet an immigrant, by default they aren’t progressive/liberal. Some are but they will let you know about it

I’m the immigrant who wrote about why I vote Republican and how I want to be left alone. Your rule of thumb is honestly not a bad one. Most immigrants reject the nonsense social agenda of Democrats. I’ll never understand why we’re expected to subscribe to gibberish made up by mentally unstable white people who are to the left of Fidel Castro. Just because THEY have attached themselves to US because they’re always seeking reinforcements in their neverending war on polite society doesn’t mean that WE like THEM.


That arrogance is why they’re always caught off guard when immigrants buck the liberal BS at the first opportunity and vote conservative.

You're deranged. But fortunately you do not speak for all immigrants.

She speaks for the majority.
-another immigrant

[Anonymous]

There is actually very little coming from the left to do anything like legislate "wokeness." It's mostly individual choices and individual politics. The government was not involved in Dylan Mulvaney and Budweiser.

And the right wing loves to go on about the "woke military" as if the entire military has been completely subverted and is now wasting all of its time on wokeness when in fact all they had since January 2021 was a few minutes to look at a powerpoint on DEI.

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

What a distorted view of the world and politics. I feel sorry for you.

You shouldn’t. Her kids will play your kids like a fiddle when they grow up, with their head in the clouds tolerance worldview. Her kids will know things like they are and will advance without lalaland ideas

After being…. Homeschooled. By that person. I don’t think so.

They might not know when pride month is but they will know their maths and grammar

We don't say "maths" in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:I have found (and this goes further back than Trump - all the way the Reagan) that when anyone has ever told me they were not political, it turned out they voted very conservatively and didn’t care about social issues just taxes. Most have come around, but most voted for Trump the first time. All basically voted for lower taxes and did not care about the rest.

So, if anyone says, “I’m not political”, it could be a sign.

Interesting, I’ve found it true about people who aren’t born Americans, who just want to live life and pay as little tax as possible and invest in their kids’ well being. So yes they aren’t political I guess. They also don’t support progressive causes though

You’re probably the only person on this board who knows actual immigrants. I’m a first-generation immigrant and I didn’t come here because of culture wars. I don’t share the “progressive” vision, I don’t share the “conservative” vision.

I want to be left alone by both progressives and conservatives to live a quiet life in a country that’s not at war. Right now, I vote Republican because I want as much of my money left in my pocket as possible so I can take care of my children to MY satisfaction. The whole idea that the government gets to take more and more of my money in order to fund inefficient social programs falls on deaf ears with me and most immigrants. We see how the American government has “helped” African Americans. No, thanks.

Also, I don’t trust Democrats’ hostility to homeschooling and their need to centralize all education in order to control the next generation. When it was clear to me that American schools were going to completely fail in the pandemic under the leadership of complete idiots like Randi Weingarten, I pulled my children and homeschooled them, and they’re far ahead of even their wealthy peers now. It was hard, and took a toll on my health, but where I come from, you sacrifice everything for your children and you make no excuses.

I don’t want some arrogant ideologues telling me how to raise my children. I couldn’t care less about my children learning about diversity in school because I will teach them about my culture and proud history. I don’t want my children learning about other people’s sexualities and proclivities. I’m not raising them to be sexually profligate or to live life as libertines. I don’t want men performing sex acts in the name of pride to be normalized to them know I do I want men living as parodies of women to be normalized. I don’t care at all about what Democrats consider to be “acceptance”. Tolerance is all I offer. I won’t say a word about people who I think are living immoral and disgusting lives. I’ll be polite, but I’m absolutely not going to accept them in my heart as normal or teach my children to be like them. School should stick to the basics and stop trying to sneak subjective values on kids.

As long as there’s an exception for the health/life of the mom (as documented by doctors, not self-serving claims), rape, and incest, I don’t care if abortion is completely banned in other situations. I don’t sympathize with those who voluntarily spread their legs and then want to play victim. As women, we know the burden of childbearing falls on us. Choose wisely and live with your decisions.

The Democrats agenda about guns is very stupid. I grew up with guns, as did everyone in my home country, yet school shootings are unheard of in my home country. It’s not the guns. It’s the cultural rot that’s making people here shoot random strangers. There’s a crisis of mental health and horrible values in this country, and Democrats are only accelerating the degradation of this once proud society by distributing hormones and psychotropics on demand to confused youths. Giving up guns so only criminal minded, deranged Americans have guns is crazy.

Democratic are going to see that most immigrants do not support them and are not going to support them. Just because we’re not white doesn’t mean we’re going to be fooled by some white person with a greasy smile who claims to be our ally protecting us from racism, but is actually seeking radical control of us and to use us as foot soldiers in culture wars. Those lies work on African Americans, but everyone else is waking up. As the country becomes more immigrant, Republicans will win more and more until Democrats drop the sneaky agenda.

PP you are replying to; I am first Gen myself.
I think the whole abortion debate is stupid (of course it should be pro choice like any civilized country). I also think all this trans and lgbtq nonsense is stupid (of course they should have rights like all of us but it shouldn’t be a constant celebration or forgetting biology altogether).
I am not into politics because I think both sides have lost their minds. I will vote for Dems in the federal because I am a low earner, and I will support the most conservative candidate to be realistically elected at the local level because I am in the blue state and we should balance out the crazies with their progressive ideas but that’s too complicated to explain to a layperson so I just stick to the “I am not political” trope

But this country is not pro choice. So the threat to women is very real and very not stupid. Recent immigrants may not realize how severely women's rights have been crushed by the backwards conservatives. They have taken rights away that were in place for 50 years. Don't be ignorant.

Ok fine but what do you suggest? The whole existence of the pro life idea is super backwards. But Dems have so many crazy ideas as well, and honestly some of them are more dangerous for my family than abortion ban. If my son gets a girl pregnant she can either go to a sanctuary state for an abortion or give me the child, whatever she prefers. I am willing to help her with either option. I can’t get outraged on behalf of some woman I don’t know. However the ideas of endless masking or mandatory covid shots for young people hit close to home. The idea of letting the crazy homeless run amok is also something that has direct influence on my life. See what I am getting at?

Good luck finding a young female that will go anywhere your maga son. Gen z voters are not ignorant they have no intention of supporting policies that turn the clock backwards on their rights.