No consequence for teaching CRT

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Anonymous wrote:You dont understand difference between genocide and slavery? Slavery was horrible, but not the same. And the Germans did not fight and die to free Jews.

What is the point of this comment? So are you saying the holocaust was worse than slavery? Are you seriously trying to compare two different atrocities? One type of suffering is worse because death? I sometimes think that a lot of Americans don;t know exactly what slavery in the Americas was like. Also, the notion that the North just all decided to save the slaves and died for the cause is a pretty blatant mischaracterization of why a lot of those men fought and died.

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It was a reply to a poster who said Holocaust survivors received reparations. Not the same.

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Anonymous wrote:You dont understand difference between genocide and slavery? Slavery was horrible, but not the same. And the Germans did not fight and die to free Jews.

What is the point of this comment? So are you saying the holocaust was worse than slavery? Are you seriously trying to compare two different atrocities? One type of suffering is worse because death? I sometimes think that a lot of Americans don;t know exactly what slavery in the Americas was like. Also, the notion that the North just all decided to save the slaves and died for the cause is a pretty blatant mischaracterization of why a lot of those men fought and died.

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It was a reply to a poster who said Holocaust survivors received reparations. Not the same.

Blacks have been slaves for much longer than Jews went through the Holocaust. They aren't the same and are different in many ways yes but both deserve some sort of reparation. I was simply saying that the US was instrumental in getting other countries to pay reparations, so it's not unheard of that they would do this themselves for their own atrocities to their people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The US should just figure on a number for reparations between 1 and 4 million and then no one needs to talk about how they are privileged or not privileged anymore in this country.

Or maybe people should work harder and stop thinking even more hand-outs are coming their way.

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Anonymous wrote:People are just stupid if they don't realize CRT is a mechanism to shift money.

Better to teach money making and money management skills to all kids than to gift money to black kids in the 21st century who won a lottery just because sone ancestor was enslaved.

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Anonymous wrote:People are just stupid if they don't realize CRT is a mechanism to shift money.

Better to teach money making and money management skills to all kids than to gift money to black kids in the 21st century who won a lottery just because sone ancestor was enslaved.

This is just blame shifting. Unless you want to try out being a slave for hundreds of years and then another 120 of discrimination and lawlessness against your race I think we can stop with the handouts will not be the best use of money arguments. There are plenty of addicts in America. People need to make their own choices right or wrong and actually live a life of self governance free from feeling a victim of history.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People are just stupid if they don't realize CRT is a mechanism to shift money.

Better to teach money making and money management skills to all kids than to gift money to black kids in the 21st century who won a lottery just because sone ancestor was enslaved.

This is just blame shifting. Unless you want to try out being a slave for hundreds of years and then another 120 of discrimination and lawlessness against your race I think we can stop with the handouts will not be the best use of money arguments. There are plenty of addicts in America. People need to make their own choices right or wrong and actually live a life of self governance free from feeling a victim of history.

Handouts are not and will not be the best use of money. You could give money to one generation of slave descendants and many in the next would still find some reason to claim they were the victims of history.

Teach kids real world skills, not politics to reinforce a victim mentality.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still waiting for the person who started this thread to come back and explain critical race theory. Maybe they can explain string theory while they're at it.

CRT = Cathode Ray Tube
It’s kind of obsolete. I can see why OP is concerned that they’re still using these in schools. Maybe they should budget for new monitors!

Thanks for explaining it! I feel better now that I know that the OP isn't an ignoramus.

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Anonymous wrote:I sure hope OP's kid stays long enough in public schools to overrun the family's indemic racism.

Keep fighting Virginia- you can see that you have a lot to do in keeping public education safe from these right wing fringe groups.

No, hun, we're moderates who love our country and want to improve it, not tear it down, not tear it apart.

And our voices may not be the loudest but we are the majority.

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You are not moderate at all. You are an right wing, very uneducated racist. And you are not the majority. We were there for 2020, and we were there for the midterms. We will be there for 2024, because we see how steep the stakes are.

FWIW: I am an earlier poster. Not the one to whom you are directly responding in this post. You may have responded to my posts earlier.

You appear to be a poster (or posters) who is demeaning those who argue with you. Accusing people of being "uneducated" or worse is not helpful. Challenging specific points is okay--but personal attacks are troubling.

The posters defending our country have not demeaned you, but have simply pointed out where we think you are mistaken. But, the leftist(s) on here ae demeaning anyone who points out flaws in the argument.

Our country was founded on Principles. No. It is not perfect and that is certainly pointed out in history classes--and has been pointed out for years. The roll out was certainly troublesome and oppressive to slaves and others. But, it was a great step in the right direction. Sadly, slavery was not isolated to the Western Hemisphere. People seem to forget that. There was slavery in Africa long before here. There was the equivalent of slavery in Europe, too. But, we now have come to the point through wars and laws that protect people. It is still a work in progress, but it is thanks to our Founders that the framework was there.

You may call it an attack regarding being uneducated, a personal attack, actually, but I wasn't attacking. You are emphatically and undeniably uneducated. Not an attack- it is a fact. You have written more than a few posts, or even all (!) posts that are just not correct. You have twisted non-entities, that you claim are being taught in the school system where they are not, and you've drawn outlandish conclusions about the effect.
You are uneducated and also naive.

DP. Other people read your posts, fyi. If you attack a poster, and then double down, other posters see you.

So what? This is for those who are uneducated and make racist comments as well. I have no problem with that.

Yet, pretty sure it's you. Yeah.

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Anonymous wrote:What is so frustrating about all of these comments is that it points to something that seems to be inherent in our culture. There's only A or B. if not A then must be B, and vice versa. To me, it's all the things. What I see is an unwillingness for either side to cede that there is a point of, "okay, this may be a bit ridiculous here". Systemic racism is evident. Slavery and segregation CREATED damage and perceptions that don't just vanish because policies change. You can't subjugate an entire group of people who, incidentally are easily identified as "other", take thier culture, thier family units, thier religion, thier ability to learn, thier ability to build wealth, etc. for generations and then say, oh but it's fine now. Systemic racism doesn't mean people are inherently racist, it means the underlying systems perpetuate the negative impacts on those oppressed people. It's great the little Johnny sees Tyrone as a human being and respects his right to exist, but that won't change the fact that because Johnny 's family was able to own property generations ago, build equity and accumulated wealth and resources over time to pass down both financial and situational advantages to subsequent generations, Johnny is in a better starting point than Tyrone, who has suffered poverty passed down through his family. Recognizing that disparity is not WRONG. That being said, not ALL white people are similarly situated to Johnny. Plenty of whites suffer similar circumstances and are more aligned with Tyrone's tale. It's just NOT for the same reason, necessarily. And, I hate to say this but, there were some BLACK slave owners in America. Yep. There are blacks that benefited from the very system that aimed to destroy them. And if that ain't American then I don't know what is. Anyway, pointing out "privilege" isn't bad. Remember back in the day even your parents would admonish your refusal to eat something at dinner, or if you whined about not getting a toy you wanted. and they'd tell you about the little children starving in some foreign country? That was pointing out your privilege. That was holding up a mirror and showing you that you should be grateful because others have it worse than you in certain situations. It's a tactic meant to humble you and say check yourself. This isn't about SHAMING people out telling them they're oppressors. It's saying the world is bigger than your experience and other people don't have the advantages you have. Being a victim and clinging to that as an identity is toxic. You have to be able to say, yes, I have this "disadvantage ", but I have agency and can do these things to overcome it. This is true for those with disabilities, poor people, marginalized people, or people who just don't fit in. But it's not an either or game here, you don't need to pretend it isn't inherently harder for some people to achieve success based on thier circumstances, recognize that, discuss it, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:So I talked to someone from moms of Liberty and they said they are no l consequences for teaching CRT, I know the Governor banned it, but they can still teach it and they won’t get fired

No one teaches critical race theory in K-12 education.

“Moms for Liberty” is an oxymoronic group. A moronic one, too. Nothing but a bunch of white supremacist harpies who hate American values.

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Anonymous wrote:So I talked to someone from moms of Liberty and they said they are no l consequences for teaching CRT, I know the Governor banned it, but they can still teach it and they won’t get fired

Why would you talk to anyone from moms of liberty?

Not very tolerant, are you?

Why should anyone tolerate intolerance?

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is CRT? Can you give an example of someone teaching it?

A very brief summary:

It is the theory that systemic racism is in society and is hampering the progress of African Americans.

It is not teaching that slavery was bad and that African Americans were mistreated. That is history and is being taught as it should be.

An example of inappropriate CRT: "privilege bingo"

So, you don't believe systemic racism exists? Do you also think vaccines are a woke conspiracy? Do you think the earth is flat?

NP. I object to privilege bingo in K-12 and I can't see any value in teaching any child that the land of the free and the home of the brave is oppressing them or that they are oppressors.

Can you explain the value to K-12 students to be taught that?

Your objections are duly noted. But your opinion is fringe and invalid and no one cares what you think. It isn’t like you matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is CRT? Can you give an example of someone teaching it?

A very brief summary:

It is the theory that systemic racism is in society and is hampering the progress of African Americans.

It is not teaching that slavery was bad and that African Americans were mistreated. That is history and is being taught as it should be.

An example of inappropriate CRT: "privilege bingo"

So, you don't believe systemic racism exists? Do you also think vaccines are a woke conspiracy? Do you think the earth is flat?

NP. I object to privilege bingo in K-12 and I can't see any value in teaching any child that the land of the free and the home of the brave is oppressing them or that they are oppressors.

Can you explain the value to K-12 students to be taught that?

Your objections are duly noted. But your opinion is fringe and invalid and no one cares what you think. It isn’t like you matter.

SMH

[Anonymous]

These articles explain how CRT and gender ideology are correlated and already a part of our school culture at FCPS:

1. https://fee.org/articles/critical-race-theory-and-gender-ideology-are-ubiquitous-in-us-schools-new-study-shows/

2. https://abigailshrier.substack.com/p/critical-race-theory-and-gender-ideology

How are these concepts taught at FCPS?
1. Boys and girls are now officially referred to as male and female assigned at birth.
2. FCPS is pushing for penalizing students and staff who don’t use the correct gender pronouns of those who choose to use them to identify themselves at school.
3. Privilege Bingo
4. Back in the fall of 2020, my child’s high school in FCPS distributed a book on Racism and Antiracism to every single 12 grader during virtual learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These articles explain how CRT and gender ideology are correlated and already a part of our school culture at FCPS:

1. https://fee.org/articles/critical-race-theory-and-gender-ideology-are-ubiquitous-in-us-schools-new-study-shows/

2. https://abigailshrier.substack.com/p/critical-race-theory-and-gender-ideology

How are these concepts taught at FCPS?
1. Boys and girls are now officially referred to as male and female assigned at birth.
2. FCPS is pushing for penalizing students and staff who don’t use the correct gender pronouns of those who choose to use them to identify themselves at school.
3. Privilege Bingo
4. Back in the fall of 2020, my child’s high school in FCPS distributed a book on Racism and Antiracism to every single 12 grader during virtual learning.

I skimmed the two articles. I didn't see any reference to FCPS and only one brief mention of CRT.