Liz Holmes Wants You to Forget About Elizabeth

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting is that the author fell for her. She knew it was all fake, but Holmes is one of those people who can captivate an audience

None of it is fake. People are complex, that's all. Elizabeth Holmes did her best to attract investments (Steve Jobs turtlenecks, etc), which was very business savvy. She then lied to investors and went entirely over the legal line. It doesn't mean she does not have a motherly side.

I find this entire discussion to be actually very demeaning to women in high-powered careers: they need to project a certain way at work. aThen they go home and enjoy a warmer aspect of their personality with their kids. It's entirely NORMAL.

But here this article, and this discussion, will associate such a dichotomy with criminality and possible psychopathy. It's incredibly damaging to working women to question why they behave differently at work than at home with their kids. Because essentially, this is what OP and the author are trying to do.
Have articles been written about males behaving differently at work and with their kids? Whether or not they are criminals? NO!

You can criticize this woman all you want for her crimes. But don't claim that just because you're seeing another side of her now, it's all put on and fake.

You seem confused. You can present professionally at work, climb the corporate ladder, and what have you, without being a pathological liar, committing fraud, and hurting innocent people. You can be a pathological liar and narcissist and also love your own children--this is the dichotomy of Liz Holmes.

No, I’m sorry, but you are wrong on this point. Ask anyone who was parented by a true narcissist- they are not capable of love. They do not love their children, their children are possessions to control and abuse and manipulate and exploit and throw away when they grow tired of it all. They make protestations of love but they are all empty and manipulative. All relationships are transactional.

Elizabeth Holmes does not love those children. Thank goodness they are going to have a decade free of her to develop their minds without the daily toxic abuse that a narcissistic mother inflicts. I hope their father chooses a better stepmother for them.

It’s pretty heinous to asset that she doesn’t love her children - do you love your children? Where’s the proof? See how easy it is to degrade your parental bond? Criminals are capable of love. It’s why we encourage visitation time during incarceration.

She had two babies knowing that she wouldn't be there for them from infancy though their teenage years, assuming that she ever gets visitation when she gets out. To me it's more knowing that this was her last chance to have children and making it happen

She had children as an attempt to stay out of prison. Full stop.

And it didn’t work, YAAAAAY

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I think there's more legal wrangling to come and I'm putting 50/50 on her running.

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Anonymous wrote:WHO IS PAYING WILLIAMS & CONNELLY MILLIONS TO REP HER?

probably a really good insurance policy paid for by Theranos before it folded

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting is that the author fell for her. She knew it was all fake, but Holmes is one of those people who can captivate an audience

None of it is fake. People are complex, that's all. Elizabeth Holmes did her best to attract investments (Steve Jobs turtlenecks, etc), which was very business savvy. She then lied to investors and went entirely over the legal line. It doesn't mean she does not have a motherly side.

I find this entire discussion to be actually very demeaning to women in high-powered careers: they need to project a certain way at work. aThen they go home and enjoy a warmer aspect of their personality with their kids. It's entirely NORMAL.

But here this article, and this discussion, will associate such a dichotomy with criminality and possible psychopathy. It's incredibly damaging to working women to question why they behave differently at work than at home with their kids. Because essentially, this is what OP and the author are trying to do.
Have articles been written about males behaving differently at work and with their kids? Whether or not they are criminals? NO!

You can criticize this woman all you want for her crimes. But don't claim that just because you're seeing another side of her now, it's all put on and fake.

You seem confused. You can present professionally at work, climb the corporate ladder, and what have you, without being a pathological liar, committing fraud, and hurting innocent people. You can be a pathological liar and narcissist and also love your own children--this is the dichotomy of Liz Holmes.

No, I’m sorry, but you are wrong on this point. Ask anyone who was parented by a true narcissist- they are not capable of love. They do not love their children, their children are possessions to control and abuse and manipulate and exploit and throw away when they grow tired of it all. They make protestations of love but they are all empty and manipulative. All relationships are transactional.

Elizabeth Holmes does not love those children. Thank goodness they are going to have a decade free of her to develop their minds without the daily toxic abuse that a narcissistic mother inflicts. I hope their father chooses a better stepmother for them.

It’s pretty heinous to asset that she doesn’t love her children - do you love your children? Where’s the proof? See how easy it is to degrade your parental bond? Criminals are capable of love. It’s why we encourage visitation time during incarceration.

She had two babies knowing that she wouldn't be there for them from infancy though their teenage years, assuming that she ever gets visitation when she gets out. To me it's more knowing that this was her last chance to have children and making it happen

She had children as an attempt to stay out of prison. Full stop.

And it didn’t work, YAAAAAY

She should have immediately been escorted to jail. This is ridiculous at this point that she isn’t serving her sentence.

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What is the deal with her husband? Who in their right mind would marry someone who was most certainly heading to prison for that big a crime? Is there money in it for him? Like she wanted to present an image and paid him off for marriage and for each kid...or, is he simply crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:WHO IS PAYING WILLIAMS & CONNELLY MILLIONS TO REP HER?

probably a really good insurance policy paid for by Theranos before it folded

I wonder this all the time. I’ve searched for answers and nothing. They continue to give her a full-court defense even on post-trial matters. Her bills have to be in the millions.

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Can’t she just make a run to Brazil or some place?

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Invicta is a terrible name, but it captures her state of mind. she thinks everything is about her, for her the kid’s existence is secondary to her struggles, she thinks she’s smart and special and hubby is willing to go along with it. Prison was made to knock down that kind of thinking.

The punishment she’s facing is sad and cruel and for her sake I wish she had taken a plea deal. But she thought she was too special to be convicted, and now she’s paying the price for that arrogance.

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever I think about how she harmed people, and that so many other narcs almost completely let her get away with it, I truly feel steam coming out of my ears.

Can you imagine someday when her kids learn who she really is. I feel like that would mess with your head.

By the time she gets out of prison, her kids will be teens with a new mom. She's looking at 15 years, her husband is not going to stick around

Why did he marry a psychopath knowingly?

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Anonymous wrote:WHO IS PAYING WILLIAMS & CONNELLY MILLIONS TO REP HER?

Her rich husband.

Why? Why did he marry her after she was exposed to be a fraud?

[Anonymous]

Will they have nannies taking care of the kids? I wonder if she wishes she had taken the plea deal now.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with her husband? Who in their right mind would marry someone who was most certainly heading to prison for that big a crime? Is there money in it for him? Like she wanted to present an image and paid him off for marriage and for each kid...or, is he simply crazy?

He's a rich kid who wants to be edgy.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the deal with her husband? Who in their right mind would marry someone who was most certainly heading to prison for that big a crime? Is there money in it for him? Like she wanted to present an image and paid him off for marriage and for each kid...or, is he simply crazy?

She's a con artist and he got scammed.

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Anonymous wrote:Will they have nannies taking care of the kids? I wonder if she wishes she had taken the plea deal now.

They have a father.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there's more legal wrangling to come and I'm putting 50/50 on her running.

I think she’ll run too. She’ll slip into Mexico via Tiajuana or Mexicali and from there find a quiet, remote fishing village somewhere in Central America. Once he stops being surveilled, Billy will join her with the kids. If she does get caught, she’ll claim she has undiagnosed PPD (her youngest is 3 months) and that she did this so that her kids could have a mother.

(You know, the kids she conceived while knowing she could receive a lengthy prison sentence…)