Liz Holmes Wants You to Forget About Elizabeth

[Anonymous]

“The black turtlenecks are gone. So is the voice. As the convicted Theranos founder awaits prison, she has adopted a new persona: devoted mother.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/07/business/elizabeth-holmes-theranos-interview.html

I can’t believe she delayed trial!

[Anonymous]

Can you stop posting links that require a paywall. Gift link.

[Anonymous]

She is going to prison for her crimes - she cannot delay for ever. I am sure she feels greatly bonded to her kids, even more so with the impending separation. Who wouldn't?

The author feels surprise that she's a normal person. Of course she's a normal person! People tend to label criminals with all sorts of disorders to make themselves believe they would never do the same thing, but the reality is, no one can be 100% sure that they wouldn't commit a crime given the right environment. In that knowledge, it's a little immature to have a mob revilement session where we all dump on the convicted people. We're not so far apart as we might like to think.

[Anonymous]

What’s interesting is that the author fell for her. She knew it was all fake, but Holmes is one of those people who can captivate an audience

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you stop posting links that require a paywall. Gift link.

Not op, but it's a subscription with paying for f you value journalism or want to keep up with the DC water cooler conversations.

It's an interesting attempt at a rebrand for sure!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting is that the author fell for her. She knew it was all fake, but Holmes is one of those people who can captivate an audience

I think the point was that it's complicated. The fake stuff was fake. There is real stuff under that. I think this "real stuff" is being revealed strategically rather than genuinely, but I do think it's real. I think that was the reporter's point. She knew it was fake, and she could still see the real stuff, which is compelling enough that it's fairly easy to forget the fake stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting is that the author fell for her. She knew it was all fake, but Holmes is one of those people who can captivate an audience

None of it is fake. People are complex, that's all. Elizabeth Holmes did her best to attract investments (Steve Jobs turtlenecks, etc), which was very business savvy. She then lied to investors and went entirely over the legal line. It doesn't mean she does not have a motherly side.

I find this entire discussion to be actually very demeaning to women in high-powered careers: they need to project a certain way at work. Then they go home and enjoy a warmer aspect of their personality with their kids. It's entirely NORMAL.

But here this article, and this discussion, will associate such a dichotomy with criminality and possible psychopathy. It's incredibly damaging to working women to question why they behave differently at work than at home with their kids. Because essentially, this is what OP and the author are trying to do.
Have articles been written about males behaving differently at work and with their kids? Whether or not they are criminals? NO!

You can criticize this woman all you want for her crimes. But don't claim that just because you're seeing another side of her now, it's all put on and fake.

[Anonymous]

Whenever I think about how she harmed people, and that so many other narcs almost completely let her get away with it, I truly feel steam coming out of my ears.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting is that the author fell for her. She knew it was all fake, but Holmes is one of those people who can captivate an audience

I think the point was that it's complicated. The fake stuff was fake. There is real stuff under that. I think this "real stuff" is being revealed strategically rather than genuinely, but I do think it's real. I think that was the reporter's point. She knew it was fake, and she could still see the real stuff, which is compelling enough that it's fairly easy to forget the fake stuff.

There's nothing real about her "science". It was 100% BS and one of her Stanford professors tried calling her out for years. But nobody paid heed because greed and lust seemed to cloud their eyes.

[Anonymous]

Her "normalcy" is just one of many opportunist costumes she dons to get what she wants.

[Anonymous]

How is this woman not in jail already?
Must be nice to be rich and white.

[Anonymous]

She's such a fraud.

[Anonymous]

Why is this in Entertainment?

[Anonymous]

The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

[Anonymous]

The way Holmes went after the whistleblowers shows who she really is.
“I was scared, I was terrified, I was anxious .. luckily it triggered an investigation that shone to light that there were huge deficiencies in the lab and it stopped Theranos from processing patient samples,” she said in a TED Talk.

According to a court document filed last week, Theranos spent more than $150,000 on a private investigator to spy on Cheung and another whistleblower.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/tech/elizabeth-holmes-witnesses-theranos-employees/index.html