Liz Holmes Wants You to Forget About Elizabeth

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Anonymous wrote:I did walk away from the piece with a lot of sympathy for her children and the cruelties of the American justice system in separating mothers from their children, it's wrong when it's poor women of color, and it's wrong when it's a privileged white women. And you can't have sympathy for children, maybe you are also a sociopath. She's also a rape victim who was clearly under the thumb of a much older, abusive dude. Again, if you can't have sympathy for that, maybe you are a sociopath. Should she go to prison? Yes. Should be separated from her children for 12 years? No. To me it is interesting that she never sold her shares. She didn't make any money. She went down with the ship. A true sociopath would be in the Caymans right now.

You have completely missed what this woman is. I bet you supported Sandusky. She was not under the thumb of an older man. Your comment about her "going down with the ship" is ridiculous and meaningless. Where was she going to go? More than likely the pregnancies were intentional to influence the outcome of her trial.

We aren't sociopaths. You lack critical thinking skills.

Nope. And your misogyny is on fleek.

NP - It's not misogyny to recognize her as the sociopath that she is. Who gets pregnant a second time while on trial, knowing that if convicted it might be 10+ years? By playing the unfair treatment/abused woman card, she makes it that much harder for all the women out there who are trying to succeed with legitimate business ideas or are abused.

I would have had a modicum of respect for her if she took some ownership. Just a modicum. She still was knowingly testing cancer patients and other sick people with devices that didn't work. Health care/biotech is different from tech - you shouldn't fake it til you make it.

Yep - the minute you use language like "abused woman card" - you gotta own your knee-deep sexism. All the cool kids hate women, too, so you're in good company.

NP. No, the sexism is holding women to a different, easier standard than men.

Mmmm. You're giving lots of Madonna-whore dichotomy, here. Not nearly as much hate channeled at the tech bros who unjustly enriched themselves and fled the US. Why? Some introspection is needed.

NP, I for one save plenty of hate for the tech bros. They are almost uniformly terrible people. If you want to start a thread about Musk, e.g., I'll join you there to bash the hell out of him.

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Anonymous wrote:Invicta is a terrible name, but it captures her state of mind. she thinks everything is about her, for her the kid’s existence is secondary to her struggles, she thinks she’s smart and special and hubby is willing to go along with it. Prison was made to knock down that kind of thinking.

The punishment she’s facing is sad and cruel and for her sake I wish she had taken a plea deal. But she thought she was too special to be convicted, and now she’s paying the price for that arrogance.

This is along what I think based on this article and bad blood. She was always the special genius child in the family and was felt she ws robbed of generational wealth she was entitled too. Her personality + environment has led to an inability to admit fault, see harm she has caused others, and use charm/men to further her goals rather than develop a real relationship.* Everything/one is a tool to be leveraged or used to achieve her goals.

*For the relationship piece, I dont know how much the rape and relationship with Sunny (the older guy) affected her.

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She is to report on May 30th. Are there any other delays or stunts that she can pull off? I’m sure she’s been furiously trying to get pregnant with a 3rd.

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Anonymous wrote:She is to report on May 30th. Are there any other delays or stunts that she can pull off? I’m sure she’s been furiously trying to get pregnant with a 3rd.

My understanding is there’s nothing left for her to try and she will have to report and serve 85% of her sentence so approximately 9 years.

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Poor lil rich girl. Would she take her life?