FCPS At-Large School Board Race - Is County Split in Two?

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Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Schools in FCPS are both a place to educate minor children, and a place of employment by adults.

I think a good starting point for deciding which books are available inside of classrooms and libraries is:

1) For students, if a book contains graphic images or explicit text that would result in an adult being charged with a crime against children if they showed it to the child outside of school, and especially without the parents explicit informed consent, then the book should not be allowed in school. Graphic novels such as Gender Queer would fall under this category. If your 50 year old neighbor Joe decided to read a book full of drawings of blow jobs and other explicit photos to your 13 year old son or daughter, especially encouraging them to keep this info away from you their parent, he would likely be arrested. This should be a basic, common sense standard in public school.

And

2) If a book contains graphic images and text such that if a Virginia state or Fairfax County government employee had it out at work and showed or distributed it to coworkers and especially subordinates, willing or unwilling, would result in the state or county government employee being disciplined or fired for sexual harrassment, then the county employees of FCPS should not be allowed to share that book with minor children in FCPS in any capacity, be it in the library, in the classroom, or sharing with an individual student.

Use the state and county employment standards for what material an adult employee is allowed to share in the workplace, and apply this to our govt employee teachers, counselors, support staff and principals.

This should not even be a point of contention unless you are a predator.

+1,000,000. Plus, any At-Large School Board candidate who agrees with this stance, and makes it known, should have a great chance of winning.

Unfortunately, there are many vulnerable kids at FCPS who can barely read, yet most of these explicit drawings can leave a distorted long-lasting effect. Any candidate who cares about them should make it their priority to protect them.


Both Meren and Thomas last night said that we should continue to trust our librarians the job they are doing. The interests and benefits of material that reflects intersectionality and the queer community outweighs the risks and concerns.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Yup. We already have a process for this and have for years!


Handpicking a committee to state a desired outcome to keep the books is not an open transparent process. There should be a transparent process that:
1) Articulates how the book encourages lifelong learning
2) That the material identifies with each student, with the understanding that not all material will identify with each student.

The books in question do not follow best practices with a library book selection process and are pervasively vulgar. Those advocating for the material cannot articulate the literary value of the books.

For example, if Lawn Boy was to be material to identify with young boys exploring their homosexuality, why does the author repeatedly reflect upon sexual experiences between two 10 yr-old boys? Why not make the characters 15, 16, or 17? Why 10 yr-olds engaged in oral sex? Most would even find that behavior between heterosexuals disturbing.

Tonight, the two candidates, Melanie Meren and Paul Thomas advocated for such material under the guise of intersectionality and the need to provide inclusive material representative of the LGBTQIA++ community.

Then there is the recent book, 'Queer,' read by RWNJ Langton (who finally spoke against hetero porn), who does make a point, why is the school providing material to children to tell them that all sex is good sex? It isn't.

Did they also recommend to the LGBTQ and its allies community at our schools the book Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier in the name of diversity of opinion and inclusivity? If they didn’t, then it’s clear that they support book banning and solely advocate for a selected small group that doesn’t even represent the best interest of the LGBTQ community — nor the overall student population who, by default, are being dragged into this ideology.

Any School Board candidate who pays attention to the role the current board has had to allow this situation to linger and comes up with solutions to make everyone welcomed and respected, and that can be implemented from day one once on board, should have a great chance of winning.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Yup. We already have a process for this and have for years!


Handpicking a committee to state a desired outcome to keep the books is not an open transparent process. There should be a transparent process that:
1) Articulates how the book encourages lifelong learning
2) That the material identifies with each student, with the understanding that not all material will identify with each student.

The books in question do not follow best practices with a library book selection process and are pervasively vulgar. Those advocating for the material cannot articulate the literary value of the books.

For example, if Lawn Boy was to be material to identify with young boys exploring their homosexuality, why does the author repeatedly reflect upon sexual experiences between two 10 yr-old boys? Why not make the characters 15, 16, or 17? Why 10 yr-olds engaged in oral sex? Most would even find that behavior between heterosexuals disturbing.

Tonight, the two candidates, Melanie Meren and Paul Thomas advocated for such material under the guise of intersectionality and the need to provide inclusive material representative of the LGBTQIA++ community.

Then there is the recent book, 'Queer,' read by RWNJ Langton (who finally spoke against hetero porn), who does make a point, why is the school providing material to children to tell them that all sex is good sex? It isn't.

Did they also recommend to the LGBTQ and its allies community at our schools the book Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier in the name of diversity of opinion and inclusivity? If they didn’t, then it’s clear that they support book banning and solely advocate for a selected small group that doesn’t even represent the best interest of the LGBTQ community — nor the overall student population who, by default, are being dragged into this ideology.

Any School Board candidate who pays attention to the role the current board has had to allow this situation to linger and comes up with solutions to make everyone welcomed and respected, and that can be implemented from day one once on board, should have a great chance of winning.


In one of his ‘spats of with community members,’ Jackson did hand out a flier to all members of Fairfax GOP calling Langton a ‘Beacon of Hate,’ for bullying a transgender woman online and called for her ejection from the party. So no. None of the SB candidates on the other side align with Langton.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Schools in FCPS are both a place to educate minor children, and a place of employment by adults.

I think a good starting point for deciding which books are available inside of classrooms and libraries is:

1) For students, if a book contains graphic images or explicit text that would result in an adult being charged with a crime against children if they showed it to the child outside of school, and especially without the parents explicit informed consent, then the book should not be allowed in school. Graphic novels such as Gender Queer would fall under this category. If your 50 year old neighbor Joe decided to read a book full of drawings of blow jobs and other explicit photos to your 13 year old son or daughter, especially encouraging them to keep this info away from you their parent, he would likely be arrested. This should be a basic, common sense standard in public school.

And

2) If a book contains graphic images and text such that if a Virginia state or Fairfax County government employee had it out at work and showed or distributed it to coworkers and especially subordinates, willing or unwilling, would result in the state or county government employee being disciplined or fired for sexual harrassment, then the county employees of FCPS should not be allowed to share that book with minor children in FCPS in any capacity, be it in the library, in the classroom, or sharing with an individual student.

Use the state and county employment standards for what material an adult employee is allowed to share in the workplace, and apply this to our govt employee teachers, counselors, support staff and principals.

This should not even be a point of contention unless you are a predator.

+1,000,000. Plus, any At-Large School Board candidate who agrees with this stance, and makes it known, should have a great chance of winning.

Unfortunately, there are many vulnerable kids at FCPS who can barely read, yet most of these explicit drawings can leave a distorted long-lasting effect. Any candidate who cares about them should make it their priority to protect them.


Both Meren and Thomas last night said that we should continue to trust our librarians the job they are doing. The interests and benefits of material that reflects intersectionality and the queer community outweighs the risks and concerns.


Hunter Mill elections are driven by Reston and Vienna voters. Reston is very liberal. So no surprise that Meren and Thomas would take these positions.

But Jackson is polarizing and unelectable and even if he were elected - which he won’t be - he’d be ignored by others on the School Board and ineffective. So the only real choice is for the Democratic endorsement. You have to decide if you want more Meren or prefer a new member who won’t be as big a narcissist as Meren.

People talk about wanting diversity on the Board but the biggest current lack of diversity is gender. That stands to change with the at-large members, at least two of whom stand to be men, but Thomas would be a Black dad on the Board, something we haven’t seen for years (This would also be the case with Jackson, but he just has way too much baggage to get elected).
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Schools in FCPS are both a place to educate minor children, and a place of employment by adults.

I think a good starting point for deciding which books are available inside of classrooms and libraries is:

1) For students, if a book contains graphic images or explicit text that would result in an adult being charged with a crime against children if they showed it to the child outside of school, and especially without the parents explicit informed consent, then the book should not be allowed in school. Graphic novels such as Gender Queer would fall under this category. If your 50 year old neighbor Joe decided to read a book full of drawings of blow jobs and other explicit photos to your 13 year old son or daughter, especially encouraging them to keep this info away from you their parent, he would likely be arrested. This should be a basic, common sense standard in public school.

And

2) If a book contains graphic images and text such that if a Virginia state or Fairfax County government employee had it out at work and showed or distributed it to coworkers and especially subordinates, willing or unwilling, would result in the state or county government employee being disciplined or fired for sexual harrassment, then the county employees of FCPS should not be allowed to share that book with minor children in FCPS in any capacity, be it in the library, in the classroom, or sharing with an individual student.

Use the state and county employment standards for what material an adult employee is allowed to share in the workplace, and apply this to our govt employee teachers, counselors, support staff and principals.

This should not even be a point of contention unless you are a predator.

+1,000,000. Plus, any At-Large School Board candidate who agrees with this stance, and makes it known, should have a great chance of winning.

Unfortunately, there are many vulnerable kids at FCPS who can barely read, yet most of these explicit drawings can leave a distorted long-lasting effect. Any candidate who cares about them should make it their priority to protect them.


Both Meren and Thomas last night said that we should continue to trust our librarians the job they are doing. The interests and benefits of material that reflects intersectionality and the queer community outweighs the risks and concerns.


Hunter Mill elections are driven by Reston and Vienna voters. Reston is very liberal. So no surprise that Meren and Thomas would take these positions.

But Jackson is polarizing and unelectable and even if he were elected - which he won’t be - he’d be ignored by others on the School Board and ineffective. So the only real choice is for the Democratic endorsement. You have to decide if you want more Meren or prefer a new member who won’t be as big a narcissist as Meren.

People talk about wanting diversity on the Board but the biggest current lack of diversity is gender. That stands to change with the at-large members, at least two of whom stand to be men, but Thomas would be a Black dad on the Board, something we haven’t seen for years (This would also be the case with Jackson, but he just has way too much baggage to get elected).


It only takes one school board member to crack open the issue of covering up sexual assaults. A practice Meren and Thomas would continue.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Yup. We already have a process for this and have for years!


Handpicking a committee to state a desired outcome to keep the books is not an open transparent process. There should be a transparent process that:
1) Articulates how the book encourages lifelong learning
2) That the material identifies with each student, with the understanding that not all material will identify with each student.

The books in question do not follow best practices with a library book selection process and are pervasively vulgar. Those advocating for the material cannot articulate the literary value of the books.

For example, if Lawn Boy was to be material to identify with young boys exploring their homosexuality, why does the author repeatedly reflect upon sexual experiences between two 10 yr-old boys? Why not make the characters 15, 16, or 17? Why 10 yr-olds engaged in oral sex? Most would even find that behavior between heterosexuals disturbing.

Tonight, the two candidates, Melanie Meren and Paul Thomas advocated for such material under the guise of intersectionality and the need to provide inclusive material representative of the LGBTQIA++ community.

Then there is the recent book, 'Queer,' read by RWNJ Langton (who finally spoke against hetero porn), who does make a point, why is the school providing material to children to tell them that all sex is good sex? It isn't.

Did they also recommend to the LGBTQ and its allies community at our schools the book Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier in the name of diversity of opinion and inclusivity? If they didn’t, then it’s clear that they support book banning and solely advocate for a selected small group that doesn’t even represent the best interest of the LGBTQ community — nor the overall student population who, by default, are being dragged into this ideology.

Any School Board candidate who pays attention to the role the current board has had to allow this situation to linger and comes up with solutions to make everyone welcomed and respected, and that can be implemented from day one once on board, should have a great chance of winning.


In one of his ‘spats of with community members,’ Jackson did hand out a flier to all members of Fairfax GOP calling Langton a ‘Beacon of Hate,’ for bullying a transgender woman online and called for her ejection from the party. So no. None of the SB candidates on the other side align with Langton.

This issue is no longer about party affiliation nor a particular person or another. It’s gotten to the point where the elephant in the room needs to be acknowledged. And whoever takes the lead to do so will have a great chance to succeed in the upcoming elections.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Yup. We already have a process for this and have for years!


Handpicking a committee to state a desired outcome to keep the books is not an open transparent process. There should be a transparent process that:
1) Articulates how the book encourages lifelong learning
2) That the material identifies with each student, with the understanding that not all material will identify with each student.

The books in question do not follow best practices with a library book selection process and are pervasively vulgar. Those advocating for the material cannot articulate the literary value of the books.

For example, if Lawn Boy was to be material to identify with young boys exploring their homosexuality, why does the author repeatedly reflect upon sexual experiences between two 10 yr-old boys? Why not make the characters 15, 16, or 17? Why 10 yr-olds engaged in oral sex? Most would even find that behavior between heterosexuals disturbing.

Tonight, the two candidates, Melanie Meren and Paul Thomas advocated for such material under the guise of intersectionality and the need to provide inclusive material representative of the LGBTQIA++ community.

Then there is the recent book, 'Queer,' read by RWNJ Langton (who finally spoke against hetero porn), who does make a point, why is the school providing material to children to tell them that all sex is good sex? It isn't.

Did they also recommend to the LGBTQ and its allies community at our schools the book Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier in the name of diversity of opinion and inclusivity? If they didn’t, then it’s clear that they support book banning and solely advocate for a selected small group that doesn’t even represent the best interest of the LGBTQ community — nor the overall student population who, by default, are being dragged into this ideology.

Any School Board candidate who pays attention to the role the current board has had to allow this situation to linger and comes up with solutions to make everyone welcomed and respected, and that can be implemented from day one once on board, should have a great chance of winning.


In one of his ‘spats of with community members,’ Jackson did hand out a flier to all members of Fairfax GOP calling Langton a ‘Beacon of Hate,’ for bullying a transgender woman online and called for her ejection from the party. So no. None of the SB candidates on the other side align with Langton.

This issue is no longer about party affiliation nor a particular person or another. It’s gotten to the point where the elephant in the room needs to be acknowledged. And whoever takes the lead to do so will have a great chance to succeed in the upcoming elections.


Sorry - what is the elephant in the room?
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Yup. We already have a process for this and have for years!


Handpicking a committee to state a desired outcome to keep the books is not an open transparent process. There should be a transparent process that:
1) Articulates how the book encourages lifelong learning
2) That the material identifies with each student, with the understanding that not all material will identify with each student.

The books in question do not follow best practices with a library book selection process and are pervasively vulgar. Those advocating for the material cannot articulate the literary value of the books.

For example, if Lawn Boy was to be material to identify with young boys exploring their homosexuality, why does the author repeatedly reflect upon sexual experiences between two 10 yr-old boys? Why not make the characters 15, 16, or 17? Why 10 yr-olds engaged in oral sex? Most would even find that behavior between heterosexuals disturbing.

Tonight, the two candidates, Melanie Meren and Paul Thomas advocated for such material under the guise of intersectionality and the need to provide inclusive material representative of the LGBTQIA++ community.

Then there is the recent book, 'Queer,' read by RWNJ Langton (who finally spoke against hetero porn), who does make a point, why is the school providing material to children to tell them that all sex is good sex? It isn't.

Did they also recommend to the LGBTQ and its allies community at our schools the book Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier in the name of diversity of opinion and inclusivity? If they didn’t, then it’s clear that they support book banning and solely advocate for a selected small group that doesn’t even represent the best interest of the LGBTQ community — nor the overall student population who, by default, are being dragged into this ideology.

Any School Board candidate who pays attention to the role the current board has had to allow this situation to linger and comes up with solutions to make everyone welcomed and respected, and that can be implemented from day one once on board, should have a great chance of winning.


In one of his ‘spats of with community members,’ Jackson did hand out a flier to all members of Fairfax GOP calling Langton a ‘Beacon of Hate,’ for bullying a transgender woman online and called for her ejection from the party. So no. None of the SB candidates on the other side align with Langton.

This issue is no longer about party affiliation nor a particular person or another. It’s gotten to the point where the elephant in the room needs to be acknowledged. And whoever takes the lead to do so will have a great chance to succeed in the upcoming elections.


Sorry - what is the elephant in the room?


The Pledge of Silence
https://youtu.be/CCRA8tRh54U
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Schools in FCPS are both a place to educate minor children, and a place of employment by adults.

I think a good starting point for deciding which books are available inside of classrooms and libraries is:

1) For students, if a book contains graphic images or explicit text that would result in an adult being charged with a crime against children if they showed it to the child outside of school, and especially without the parents explicit informed consent, then the book should not be allowed in school. Graphic novels such as Gender Queer would fall under this category. If your 50 year old neighbor Joe decided to read a book full of drawings of blow jobs and other explicit photos to your 13 year old son or daughter, especially encouraging them to keep this info away from you their parent, he would likely be arrested. This should be a basic, common sense standard in public school.

And

2) If a book contains graphic images and text such that if a Virginia state or Fairfax County government employee had it out at work and showed or distributed it to coworkers and especially subordinates, willing or unwilling, would result in the state or county government employee being disciplined or fired for sexual harrassment, then the county employees of FCPS should not be allowed to share that book with minor children in FCPS in any capacity, be it in the library, in the classroom, or sharing with an individual student.

Use the state and county employment standards for what material an adult employee is allowed to share in the workplace, and apply this to our govt employee teachers, counselors, support staff and principals.

This should not even be a point of contention unless you are a predator.

+1,000,000. Plus, any At-Large School Board candidate who agrees with this stance, and makes it known, should have a great chance of winning.

Unfortunately, there are many vulnerable kids at FCPS who can barely read, yet most of these explicit drawings can leave a distorted long-lasting effect. Any candidate who cares about them should make it their priority to protect them.


Both Meren and Thomas last night said that we should continue to trust our librarians the job they are doing. The interests and benefits of material that reflects intersectionality and the queer community outweighs the risks and concerns.

Do Meren and Thomas mean that books like Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier, or the upcoming Lost in TransNation: A Child Psychiatrist's Guide Out of the Madness by Miriam Grossman, M.D., or others from authors who detransitioned should also be available in FCPS libraries since they also reflect intersectionality and the queer community?

Unless, of course, FCPS acts like an authoritarian school system where the focus of our librarians and school board is limited to exposing our students to explicitly graphic sexual content in the name of helping them with their identity and feeling of inclusion. Have they ever thought about the benefit of educating this community (and others in the school system) about existing academic research from experts, or about personal experiences of others that don’t necessarily align with the books in question? Or, why are they afraid of including these books alongside the ones they push for? Aren’t they for encouraging the development of critical thinking in our students, tolerance of ideas and inclusivity? When only one side of any issue is presented as an absolute and imposed on others, critical thinking dies and gives room to indoctrination.

Any school board candidate, irregardless of political affiliation, who can see through this travesty and is willing to overcome it, will definitely have my vote.
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Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Yup. We already have a process for this and have for years!


Handpicking a committee to state a desired outcome to keep the books is not an open transparent process. There should be a transparent process that:
1) Articulates how the book encourages lifelong learning
2) That the material identifies with each student, with the understanding that not all material will identify with each student.

The books in question do not follow best practices with a library book selection process and are pervasively vulgar. Those advocating for the material cannot articulate the literary value of the books.

For example, if Lawn Boy was to be material to identify with young boys exploring their homosexuality, why does the author repeatedly reflect upon sexual experiences between two 10 yr-old boys? Why not make the characters 15, 16, or 17? Why 10 yr-olds engaged in oral sex? Most would even find that behavior between heterosexuals disturbing.

Tonight, the two candidates, Melanie Meren and Paul Thomas advocated for such material under the guise of intersectionality and the need to provide inclusive material representative of the LGBTQIA++ community.

Then there is the recent book, 'Queer,' read by RWNJ Langton (who finally spoke against hetero porn), who does make a point, why is the school providing material to children to tell them that all sex is good sex? It isn't.

Did they also recommend to the LGBTQ and its allies community at our schools the book Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier in the name of diversity of opinion and inclusivity? If they didn’t, then it’s clear that they support book banning and solely advocate for a selected small group that doesn’t even represent the best interest of the LGBTQ community — nor the overall student population who, by default, are being dragged into this ideology.

Any School Board candidate who pays attention to the role the current board has had to allow this situation to linger and comes up with solutions to make everyone welcomed and respected, and that can be implemented from day one once on board, should have a great chance of winning.


In one of his ‘spats of with community members,’ Jackson did hand out a flier to all members of Fairfax GOP calling Langton a ‘Beacon of Hate,’ for bullying a transgender woman online and called for her ejection from the party. So no. None of the SB candidates on the other side align with Langton.

This issue is no longer about party affiliation nor a particular person or another. It’s gotten to the point where the elephant in the room needs to be acknowledged. And whoever takes the lead to do so will have a great chance to succeed in the upcoming elections.


Sorry - what is the elephant in the room?

No problem. This is the elephant in the room:

1. https://abigailshrier.substack.com/p/the-gender-cult-marches-on

2. https://edsource.org/2022/controversial-gender-ideology-in-public-education-undermines-families-of-faith/671790

3. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/20/stop-the-sexualization-of-our-children/
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Yup. We already have a process for this and have for years!


Handpicking a committee to state a desired outcome to keep the books is not an open transparent process. There should be a transparent process that:
1) Articulates how the book encourages lifelong learning
2) That the material identifies with each student, with the understanding that not all material will identify with each student.

The books in question do not follow best practices with a library book selection process and are pervasively vulgar. Those advocating for the material cannot articulate the literary value of the books.

For example, if Lawn Boy was to be material to identify with young boys exploring their homosexuality, why does the author repeatedly reflect upon sexual experiences between two 10 yr-old boys? Why not make the characters 15, 16, or 17? Why 10 yr-olds engaged in oral sex? Most would even find that behavior between heterosexuals disturbing.

Tonight, the two candidates, Melanie Meren and Paul Thomas advocated for such material under the guise of intersectionality and the need to provide inclusive material representative of the LGBTQIA++ community.

Then there is the recent book, 'Queer,' read by RWNJ Langton (who finally spoke against hetero porn), who does make a point, why is the school providing material to children to tell them that all sex is good sex? It isn't.

Did they also recommend to the LGBTQ and its allies community at our schools the book Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier in the name of diversity of opinion and inclusivity? If they didn’t, then it’s clear that they support book banning and solely advocate for a selected small group that doesn’t even represent the best interest of the LGBTQ community — nor the overall student population who, by default, are being dragged into this ideology.

Any School Board candidate who pays attention to the role the current board has had to allow this situation to linger and comes up with solutions to make everyone welcomed and respected, and that can be implemented from day one once on board, should have a great chance of winning.


In one of his ‘spats of with community members,’ Jackson did hand out a flier to all members of Fairfax GOP calling Langton a ‘Beacon of Hate,’ for bullying a transgender woman online and called for her ejection from the party. So no. None of the SB candidates on the other side align with Langton.

This issue is no longer about party affiliation nor a particular person or another. It’s gotten to the point where the elephant in the room needs to be acknowledged. And whoever takes the lead to do so will have a great chance to succeed in the upcoming elections.


Sorry - what is the elephant in the room?

No problem. This is the elephant in the room:

1. https://abigailshrier.substack.com/p/the-gender-cult-marches-on

2. https://edsource.org/2022/controversial-gender-ideology-in-public-education-undermines-families-of-faith/671790

3. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/20/stop-the-sexualization-of-our-children/


That's not the elephant in the room. The real elephant in the room is how the school system continues to march along pretending that it's a great school system while now 36% of pyramids (9 out of 25) are performing below the Virginia state average SAT score. That is an alarming downward trend.

It's not so much that SAT scores are so important, but it does demonstrate that over a third of FCPS (and worsening every year) is no longer a dominant, high-performing school district compared to the rest of Virginia.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Schools in FCPS are both a place to educate minor children, and a place of employment by adults.

I think a good starting point for deciding which books are available inside of classrooms and libraries is:

1) For students, if a book contains graphic images or explicit text that would result in an adult being charged with a crime against children if they showed it to the child outside of school, and especially without the parents explicit informed consent, then the book should not be allowed in school. Graphic novels such as Gender Queer would fall under this category. If your 50 year old neighbor Joe decided to read a book full of drawings of blow jobs and other explicit photos to your 13 year old son or daughter, especially encouraging them to keep this info away from you their parent, he would likely be arrested. This should be a basic, common sense standard in public school.

And

2) If a book contains graphic images and text such that if a Virginia state or Fairfax County government employee had it out at work and showed or distributed it to coworkers and especially subordinates, willing or unwilling, would result in the state or county government employee being disciplined or fired for sexual harrassment, then the county employees of FCPS should not be allowed to share that book with minor children in FCPS in any capacity, be it in the library, in the classroom, or sharing with an individual student.

Use the state and county employment standards for what material an adult employee is allowed to share in the workplace, and apply this to our govt employee teachers, counselors, support staff and principals.

This should not even be a point of contention unless you are a predator.

+1,000,000. Plus, any At-Large School Board candidate who agrees with this stance, and makes it known, should have a great chance of winning.

Unfortunately, there are many vulnerable kids at FCPS who can barely read, yet most of these explicit drawings can leave a distorted long-lasting effect. Any candidate who cares about them should make it their priority to protect them.


Both Meren and Thomas last night said that we should continue to trust our librarians the job they are doing. The interests and benefits of material that reflects intersectionality and the queer community outweighs the risks and concerns.


Can the Democrats puh-leeze stop tying the queer community’s interests to stocking school libraries with graphic illustrations of sex acts?

Decades of fighting against the assumption that gay/queer = pedo and here they are undoing all the progress that was made!
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


Schools in FCPS are both a place to educate minor children, and a place of employment by adults.

I think a good starting point for deciding which books are available inside of classrooms and libraries is:

1) For students, if a book contains graphic images or explicit text that would result in an adult being charged with a crime against children if they showed it to the child outside of school, and especially without the parents explicit informed consent, then the book should not be allowed in school. Graphic novels such as Gender Queer would fall under this category. If your 50 year old neighbor Joe decided to read a book full of drawings of blow jobs and other explicit photos to your 13 year old son or daughter, especially encouraging them to keep this info away from you their parent, he would likely be arrested. This should be a basic, common sense standard in public school.

And

2) If a book contains graphic images and text such that if a Virginia state or Fairfax County government employee had it out at work and showed or distributed it to coworkers and especially subordinates, willing or unwilling, would result in the state or county government employee being disciplined or fired for sexual harrassment, then the county employees of FCPS should not be allowed to share that book with minor children in FCPS in any capacity, be it in the library, in the classroom, or sharing with an individual student.

Use the state and county employment standards for what material an adult employee is allowed to share in the workplace, and apply this to our govt employee teachers, counselors, support staff and principals.

This should not even be a point of contention unless you are a predator.

+1,000,000. Plus, any At-Large School Board candidate who agrees with this stance, and makes it known, should have a great chance of winning.

Unfortunately, there are many vulnerable kids at FCPS who can barely read, yet most of these explicit drawings can leave a distorted long-lasting effect. Any candidate who cares about them should make it their priority to protect them.


Both Meren and Thomas last night said that we should continue to trust our librarians the job they are doing. The interests and benefits of material that reflects intersectionality and the queer community outweighs the risks and concerns.


Can the Democrats puh-leeze stop tying the queer community’s interests to stocking school libraries with graphic illustrations of sex acts?

Decades of fighting against the assumption that gay/queer = pedo and here they are undoing all the progress that was made!


Maybe, the representative of the community who speaks frequently at SB meetings, should stop defending those books being in the schools. He constantly says those parents are calling for censorship nd book banning, when they are just asking that libraries not carry those books that are too offensive to show at SB meetings..
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Anonymous wrote:Adding that I wish there were a moderate running outside of the democrats but there aren’t any.


Davis is a moderate. If you think otherwise you are far to the left and can’t handle a mainstream candidate.


She supports book banning. That is not moderate. It’s part of the right wing extremist playbook currently running in other states and in Spotsylvania County, VA.


It is not "banning books" to eliminate inappropriate materials for minors from schools. "Banning books" means that books cannot be published or sold. No one is calling for that.

While I'm not fan of Stacy Langdon, it is clear that the book she talked about at the SB meetings does not belong in any school library. A graphic novel with pics of "parents" participating in what could kindly be called "out of the usual" sexual acts has no redeeming qualities.


Who should determine what is inappropriate? In states with policies like Langton wants, Toni Morrison and Jodi Picoult and many other authors are banned. https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-jodi-picoult-denounces-book-bans-after-florida/story?id=98151365

FCPS has a book challenge process, concerned people should follow it. I don’t want one untrained individual deciding to ban books from our school libraries.


You're an idiot. You know there's no scenario where one individual would get to decide what books are selected for FCPS school libraries. And you apparently don't have a problem with community standards, either. You simply think that one left-wing group comprised of drag queen fans like Karl Frisch and their designees should speak for the entire community.


First, unnecessary personal attack. Second, if you have read any of the articles from other states, many books have been removed because one person has filed complaint against many books. Third, I have no idea what group you are referring to and didn’t know (and don’t care if) Frisch is a drag fan.


Logic fail. Book selections should reflect community standards, even if one person has the initial idea that books like Lawn Boy or Gender Queer are appropriate or inappropriate for school libraries. You just want those standards determined by a bunch of LWNJs who think anything goes as long as it can be portrayed as LBGTQ-positive. If more people knew what FCPS personnel were doing, such as going out of their way recently to give a “non-binary” teacher a coveted award, Frisch and his ilk would be voted out in a hot second.

What award are you referring to?
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