Congrats to the GMU Admits!

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It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I don't know. Well over half of students at GMU are from NoVA.



False.

That's what SCHEV says.

From Fairfax County - 9,602 undergraduates
From Prince William County - 3,794 undergraduates
From Loudoun County - 3,368 undergraduates
From Arlington County - 748 undergraduates
From Alexandria City - 451 undergraduates
From Fairfax City - 333 undergraduates
From Manassas City - 278 undergraduates
From Masassas Park City - 182 undergraduates
From Falls Church City - 68 undergraduates

27,519 undergraduates, so about 67% are from NoVA.




I don't see where SCHEV says that.


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Why is it so hard to simply provide a link?

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E12RA_Report.asp


This link is from 2013. And shows none of the above. So I can only assume the above "information" was made up.


The link does show what the PP said about numbers of students from Northern Va going to GMU. Are you incapable of using the SCHEV data search?



This link does not show what PP claims. First, you can get to the figures for 2022 (instead of 2013) by clicking through at the top of the page. That will show you that only the total undergrad student population from Fairfax County is 9,6022, which is only 41.1 percent of the undergrad student body. . Even if you went with the 2013 figures FF numbers would still be only 2% higher. So PP is simply wrong claiming 67%. I knew it had to be wrong because I have a DS there. And I've taught there.


'Tis a pity you are so stupid and yet you actually taught at GMU. You are a poor reflection of the quality of teachers there.




Right . . . you don't like stats. Fairfax County has a large amount of students because they are the best in the state. Same is true when you throw in the rest of the top nova schools. No surprise there. Berkeley and UCLA get most of their kids from the high scoring publics in California's metropolitan areas and few privates. No surprise there either

I would say it is more about proximity.



No. It’s about caliber of student. Name any other high schools of the caliber of Fairfax anywhere else in the state. Name any s hook district like FCPS, Arlington, Asburn (on the rise) in any other part of the state. There aren’t even pockets of great high schools or school districts in the rest of the Commonwealth

huh? The top students in NoVA don't go to GMU. The acceptance rate is like 90%



Not true. Median now has a 4.0 weighted gpa. Go look at SCHEV

what is the average gpa coming out of NoVA high schools? I know at my kids' school, 4.0 would not be a "top student." With so much grade inflation these days, GPA can be tricky. Their Common Data set says for incoming freshman, 14% were in top 10% of class, and 40% were in top quarter. So about 2/3 of incoming freshman were outside the top 25% of their class.

Sorry, I was incorrect on acceptance rate. 91% for in-state, 92% for out of state. 90.2% for FCPS.



For the 100th time, one cannot compare the acceptance rate of a public university to that of privates for a number of reasons but primarily because it is the job of the state high school counselors to steer their students to the best suited public universities. That is their job. This is one of the reasons that UVA’s in state acceptances appear high even though 75th percentile is a 4.47 gpa and a 35 ACT

I am a counselor in FCPS and this is not my job. At all.



Of course it is your job to steer to the best-suited schools. You look at Naviance and SCHEV and lay it out for the parents and students. You don't send in a B+ student to UVA. You don't check off the most rigorous box for a B+ student. You don't write a brilliant letter of recommendation for a B+ student. That is your job. https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3974&context=dissertations


DP. You are very odd. My B+ students apply wherever the hell they want. They (and their parents) are able to use Naviance and SCHEV and see the stats for themselves - I certainly don't need to tell them where they do and don't have a chance. It's so bizarre that you have such a mistaken idea of what high school counselors do.
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Anonymous wrote:Congrats to those who got in!

It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I don't know. Well over half of students at GMU are from NoVA.



False.

That's what SCHEV says.

From Fairfax County - 9,602 undergraduates
From Prince William County - 3,794 undergraduates
From Loudoun County - 3,368 undergraduates
From Arlington County - 748 undergraduates
From Alexandria City - 451 undergraduates
From Fairfax City - 333 undergraduates
From Manassas City - 278 undergraduates
From Masassas Park City - 182 undergraduates
From Falls Church City - 68 undergraduates

27,519 undergraduates, so about 67% are from NoVA.




I don't see where SCHEV says that.


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Why is it so hard to simply provide a link?

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E12RA_Report.asp


This link is from 2013. And shows none of the above. So I can only assume the above "information" was made up.


The link does show what the PP said about numbers of students from Northern Va going to GMU. Are you incapable of using the SCHEV data search?



This link does not show what PP claims. First, you can get to the figures for 2022 (instead of 2013) by clicking through at the top of the page. That will show you that only the total undergrad student population from Fairfax County is 9,6022, which is only 41.1 percent of the undergrad student body. . Even if you went with the 2013 figures FF numbers would still be only 2% higher. So PP is simply wrong claiming 67%. I knew it had to be wrong because I have a DS there. And I've taught there.


'Tis a pity you are so stupid and yet you actually taught at GMU. You are a poor reflection of the quality of teachers there.




Right . . . you don't like stats. Fairfax County has a large amount of students because they are the best in the state. Same is true when you throw in the rest of the top nova schools. No surprise there. Berkeley and UCLA get most of their kids from the high scoring publics in California's metropolitan areas and few privates. No surprise there either

I would say it is more about proximity.



No. It’s about caliber of student. Name any other high schools of the caliber of Fairfax anywhere else in the state. Name any s hook district like FCPS, Arlington, Asburn (on the rise) in any other part of the state. There aren’t even pockets of great high schools or school districts in the rest of the Commonwealth

huh? The top students in NoVA don't go to GMU. The acceptance rate is like 90%



Not true. Median now has a 4.0 weighted gpa. Go look at SCHEV

what is the average gpa coming out of NoVA high schools? I know at my kids' school, 4.0 would not be a "top student." With so much grade inflation these days, GPA can be tricky. Their Common Data set says for incoming freshman, 14% were in top 10% of class, and 40% were in top quarter. So about 2/3 of incoming freshman were outside the top 25% of their class.

Sorry, I was incorrect on acceptance rate. 91% for in-state, 92% for out of state. 90.2% for FCPS.



For the 100th time, one cannot compare the acceptance rate of a public university to that of privates for a number of reasons but primarily because it is the job of the state high school counselors to steer their students to the best suited public universities. That is their job. This is one of the reasons that UVA’s in state acceptances appear high even though 75th percentile is a 4.47 gpa and a 35 ACT

I am a counselor in FCPS and this is not my job. At all.



Of course it is your job to steer to the best-suited schools. You look at Naviance and SCHEV and lay it out for the parents and students. You don't send in a B+ student to UVA. You don't check off the most rigorous box for a B+ student. You don't write a brilliant letter of recommendation for a B+ student. That is your job. https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3974&context=dissertations


DP. You are very odd. My B+ students apply wherever the hell they want. They (and their parents) are able to use Naviance and SCHEV and see the stats for themselves - I certainly don't need to tell them where they do and don't have a chance. It's so bizarre that you have such a mistaken idea of what high school counselors do.

Seriously! I'm the parent of FCPS high schoolers...I think pp *VASTLY* over estimates the amount of time these counselors actually have, lol. Maybe it is different in private schools but in public school that is not happening.
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Anonymous wrote:Congrats to those who got in!

It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I don't know. Well over half of students at GMU are from NoVA.



False.

That's what SCHEV says.

From Fairfax County - 9,602 undergraduates
From Prince William County - 3,794 undergraduates
From Loudoun County - 3,368 undergraduates
From Arlington County - 748 undergraduates
From Alexandria City - 451 undergraduates
From Fairfax City - 333 undergraduates
From Manassas City - 278 undergraduates
From Masassas Park City - 182 undergraduates
From Falls Church City - 68 undergraduates

27,519 undergraduates, so about 67% are from NoVA.




I don't see where SCHEV says that.


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Why is it so hard to simply provide a link?

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E12RA_Report.asp


This link is from 2013. And shows none of the above. So I can only assume the above "information" was made up.


The link does show what the PP said about numbers of students from Northern Va going to GMU. Are you incapable of using the SCHEV data search?



This link does not show what PP claims. First, you can get to the figures for 2022 (instead of 2013) by clicking through at the top of the page. That will show you that only the total undergrad student population from Fairfax County is 9,6022, which is only 41.1 percent of the undergrad student body. . Even if you went with the 2013 figures FF numbers would still be only 2% higher. So PP is simply wrong claiming 67%. I knew it had to be wrong because I have a DS there. And I've taught there.


'Tis a pity you are so stupid and yet you actually taught at GMU. You are a poor reflection of the quality of teachers there.




Right . . . you don't like stats. Fairfax County has a large amount of students because they are the best in the state. Same is true when you throw in the rest of the top nova schools. No surprise there. Berkeley and UCLA get most of their kids from the high scoring publics in California's metropolitan areas and few privates. No surprise there either

I would say it is more about proximity.



No. It’s about caliber of student. Name any other high schools of the caliber of Fairfax anywhere else in the state. Name any s hook district like FCPS, Arlington, Asburn (on the rise) in any other part of the state. There aren’t even pockets of great high schools or school districts in the rest of the Commonwealth

huh? The top students in NoVA don't go to GMU. The acceptance rate is like 90%



Not true. Median now has a 4.0 weighted gpa. Go look at SCHEV

what is the average gpa coming out of NoVA high schools? I know at my kids' school, 4.0 would not be a "top student." With so much grade inflation these days, GPA can be tricky. Their Common Data set says for incoming freshman, 14% were in top 10% of class, and 40% were in top quarter. So about 2/3 of incoming freshman were outside the top 25% of their class.

Sorry, I was incorrect on acceptance rate. 91% for in-state, 92% for out of state. 90.2% for FCPS.



For the 100th time, one cannot compare the acceptance rate of a public university to that of privates for a number of reasons but primarily because it is the job of the state high school counselors to steer their students to the best suited public universities. That is their job. This is one of the reasons that UVA’s in state acceptances appear high even though 75th percentile is a 4.47 gpa and a 35 ACT

I am a counselor in FCPS and this is not my job. At all.



Of course it is your job to steer to the best-suited schools. You look at Naviance and SCHEV and lay it out for the parents and students. You don't send in a B+ student to UVA. You don't check off the most rigorous box for a B+ student. You don't write a brilliant letter of recommendation for a B+ student. That is your job. https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3974&context=dissertations


DP. You are very odd. My B+ students apply wherever the hell they want. They (and their parents) are able to use Naviance and SCHEV and see the stats for themselves - I certainly don't need to tell them where they do and don't have a chance. It's so bizarre that you have such a mistaken idea of what high school counselors do.

Seriously! I'm the parent of FCPS high schoolers...I think pp *VASTLY* over estimates the amount of time these counselors actually have, lol. Maybe it is different in private schools but in public school that is not happening.


+1. My kid's counselor barely has time to talk to us even on issues that need to be addressed, let alone nice-to-haves such as college!
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I WISH my kid's counselor "steered" them to certain colleges. PP is delusional.
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My DD was accepted. She has some health conditions that make it important she stay close to home. She will likely live on campus. I think it is a great choice in this situation.
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How is GMU for lib arts? DD was accepted as a psychology major; I've always had the sense that GMU's strength is in engineering/tech, STEM, business.
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Anonymous wrote:Congrats to those who got in!

It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I think it’s mainly because Mason is a commuters school. It has little to do with academics. Like for instance they have one of the best computer science programs in the nation and it is ranked in the top 50. It has a community college feel to it in the sense that most students go to school then head home. But you can compare the quality of education to a lot of top schools.


I want my child to go to Mason and all my friends look at me crazy because she is a top student at a top FCPS HS. She wants to study CS. I think it's a great school and less expensive than UVA or VT with same job prospects.


I had a child at GMU and UVA at the same time, both in dorms and on meal
Plan. GMU was more expensive


Your UVA kid must not be engineering. GMU engineering cheaper than UVA engineering
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Anonymous wrote:How is GMU for lib arts? DD was accepted as a psychology major; I've always had the sense that GMU's strength is in engineering/tech, STEM, business.


GMU has a very well-respected graduate school for psychology...especially in testing/school psych.
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Anonymous wrote:Congrats to those who got in!

It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I don't know. Well over half of students at GMU are from NoVA.



False.

That's what SCHEV says.

From Fairfax County - 9,602 undergraduates
From Prince William County - 3,794 undergraduates
From Loudoun County - 3,368 undergraduates
From Arlington County - 748 undergraduates
From Alexandria City - 451 undergraduates
From Fairfax City - 333 undergraduates
From Manassas City - 278 undergraduates
From Masassas Park City - 182 undergraduates
From Falls Church City - 68 undergraduates

27,519 undergraduates, so about 67% are from NoVA.




I don't see where SCHEV says that.


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Why is it so hard to simply provide a link?

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E12RA_Report.asp


This link is from 2013. And shows none of the above. So I can only assume the above "information" was made up.


The link does show what the PP said about numbers of students from Northern Va going to GMU. Are you incapable of using the SCHEV data search?



This link does not show what PP claims. First, you can get to the figures for 2022 (instead of 2013) by clicking through at the top of the page. That will show you that only the total undergrad student population from Fairfax County is 9,6022, which is only 41.1 percent of the undergrad student body. . Even if you went with the 2013 figures FF numbers would still be only 2% higher. So PP is simply wrong claiming 67%. I knew it had to be wrong because I have a DS there. And I've taught there.


'Tis a pity you are so stupid and yet you actually taught at GMU. You are a poor reflection of the quality of teachers there.




Right . . . you don't like stats. Fairfax County has a large amount of students because they are the best in the state. Same is true when you throw in the rest of the top nova schools. No surprise there. Berkeley and UCLA get most of their kids from the high scoring publics in California's metropolitan areas and few privates. No surprise there either

I would say it is more about proximity.



No. It’s about caliber of student. Name any other high schools of the caliber of Fairfax anywhere else in the state. Name any s hook district like FCPS, Arlington, Asburn (on the rise) in any other part of the state. There aren’t even pockets of great high schools or school districts in the rest of the Commonwealth

huh? The top students in NoVA don't go to GMU. The acceptance rate is like 90%



Not true. Median now has a 4.0 weighted gpa. Go look at SCHEV

what is the average gpa coming out of NoVA high schools? I know at my kids' school, 4.0 would not be a "top student." With so much grade inflation these days, GPA can be tricky. Their Common Data set says for incoming freshman, 14% were in top 10% of class, and 40% were in top quarter. So about 2/3 of incoming freshman were outside the top 25% of their class.

Sorry, I was incorrect on acceptance rate. 91% for in-state, 92% for out of state. 90.2% for FCPS.



For the 100th time, one cannot compare the acceptance rate of a public university to that of privates for a number of reasons but primarily because it is the job of the state high school counselors to steer their students to the best suited public universities. That is their job. This is one of the reasons that UVA’s in state acceptances appear high even though 75th percentile is a 4.47 gpa and a 35 ACT

I am a counselor in FCPS and this is not my job. At all.



Of course it is your job to steer to the best-suited schools. You look at Naviance and SCHEV and lay it out for the parents and students. You don't send in a B+ student to UVA. You don't check off the most rigorous box for a B+ student. You don't write a brilliant letter of recommendation for a B+ student. That is your job. https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3974&context=dissertations

Right. And the Naviance and SCHEV data show that GMU is a great fit for these students. You don't need a "most rigorous" box check for that school, or a brilliant letter of recommendation.



That may be, but in Virginia, the counselor has to be supportive of your application. He or she writes their own letter of recommendation to Virginia publics. He or She decides which of the boxes to check off. So the public high school counselor in Virginia is a gatekeeper.
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Anonymous wrote:Congrats to those who got in!

It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I don't know. Well over half of students at GMU are from NoVA.



False.

That's what SCHEV says.

From Fairfax County - 9,602 undergraduates
From Prince William County - 3,794 undergraduates
From Loudoun County - 3,368 undergraduates
From Arlington County - 748 undergraduates
From Alexandria City - 451 undergraduates
From Fairfax City - 333 undergraduates
From Manassas City - 278 undergraduates
From Masassas Park City - 182 undergraduates
From Falls Church City - 68 undergraduates

27,519 undergraduates, so about 67% are from NoVA.




I don't see where SCHEV says that.


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Why is it so hard to simply provide a link?

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E12RA_Report.asp


This link is from 2013. And shows none of the above. So I can only assume the above "information" was made up.


The link does show what the PP said about numbers of students from Northern Va going to GMU. Are you incapable of using the SCHEV data search?



This link does not show what PP claims. First, you can get to the figures for 2022 (instead of 2013) by clicking through at the top of the page. That will show you that only the total undergrad student population from Fairfax County is 9,6022, which is only 41.1 percent of the undergrad student body. . Even if you went with the 2013 figures FF numbers would still be only 2% higher. So PP is simply wrong claiming 67%. I knew it had to be wrong because I have a DS there. And I've taught there.


'Tis a pity you are so stupid and yet you actually taught at GMU. You are a poor reflection of the quality of teachers there.




Right . . . you don't like stats. Fairfax County has a large amount of students because they are the best in the state. Same is true when you throw in the rest of the top nova schools. No surprise there. Berkeley and UCLA get most of their kids from the high scoring publics in California's metropolitan areas and few privates. No surprise there either

I would say it is more about proximity.



No. It’s about caliber of student. Name any other high schools of the caliber of Fairfax anywhere else in the state. Name any s hook district like FCPS, Arlington, Asburn (on the rise) in any other part of the state. There aren’t even pockets of great high schools or school districts in the rest of the Commonwealth

huh? The top students in NoVA don't go to GMU. The acceptance rate is like 90%



Not true. Median now has a 4.0 weighted gpa. Go look at SCHEV

what is the average gpa coming out of NoVA high schools? I know at my kids' school, 4.0 would not be a "top student." With so much grade inflation these days, GPA can be tricky. Their Common Data set says for incoming freshman, 14% were in top 10% of class, and 40% were in top quarter. So about 2/3 of incoming freshman were outside the top 25% of their class.

Sorry, I was incorrect on acceptance rate. 91% for in-state, 92% for out of state. 90.2% for FCPS.



For the 100th time, one cannot compare the acceptance rate of a public university to that of privates for a number of reasons but primarily because it is the job of the state high school counselors to steer their students to the best suited public universities. That is their job. This is one of the reasons that UVA’s in state acceptances appear high even though 75th percentile is a 4.47 gpa and a 35 ACT

I am a counselor in FCPS and this is not my job. At all.



Of course it is your job to steer to the best-suited schools. You look at Naviance and SCHEV and lay it out for the parents and students. You don't send in a B+ student to UVA. You don't check off the most rigorous box for a B+ student. You don't write a brilliant letter of recommendation for a B+ student. That is your job. https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3974&context=dissertations


DP. You are very odd. My B+ students apply wherever the hell they want. They (and their parents) are able to use Naviance and SCHEV and see the stats for themselves - I certainly don't need to tell them where they do and don't have a chance. It's so bizarre that you have such a mistaken idea of what high school counselors do.

Seriously! I'm the parent of FCPS high schoolers...I think pp *VASTLY* over estimates the amount of time these counselors actually have, lol. Maybe it is different in private schools but in public school that is not happening.


+1. My kid's counselor barely has time to talk to us even on issues that need to be addressed, let alone nice-to-haves such as college!



Our Langley counselor gave us plenty of time. She covered SCHEV and pointed out how to work Naviance and showed us that it was definitely a "no go" from Langley for our UVA dreamer. We actually saw her twice and had several phone conversations. Also two parent/student assemblies on college admissions. I don't know what box she checked but our kid definitely wasn't "most rigorous" quality.
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Anonymous wrote:How is GMU for lib arts? DD was accepted as a psychology major; I've always had the sense that GMU's strength is in engineering/tech, STEM, business.


GMU has a very well-respected graduate school for psychology...especially in testing/school psych.



Also in Education (graduate). YOu will see a lot of educators in the area take advantage of GMU's offering to go back and get Masters' degress or doctorates. Our own high school principal went and got a doctorate at GMU.
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Anonymous wrote:Congrats to those who got in!

It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I don't know. Well over half of students at GMU are from NoVA.



False.

That's what SCHEV says.

From Fairfax County - 9,602 undergraduates
From Prince William County - 3,794 undergraduates
From Loudoun County - 3,368 undergraduates
From Arlington County - 748 undergraduates
From Alexandria City - 451 undergraduates
From Fairfax City - 333 undergraduates
From Manassas City - 278 undergraduates
From Masassas Park City - 182 undergraduates
From Falls Church City - 68 undergraduates

27,519 undergraduates, so about 67% are from NoVA.




I don't see where SCHEV says that.


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Why is it so hard to simply provide a link?

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E12RA_Report.asp


This link is from 2013. And shows none of the above. So I can only assume the above "information" was made up.


The link does show what the PP said about numbers of students from Northern Va going to GMU. Are you incapable of using the SCHEV data search?



This link does not show what PP claims. First, you can get to the figures for 2022 (instead of 2013) by clicking through at the top of the page. That will show you that only the total undergrad student population from Fairfax County is 9,6022, which is only 41.1 percent of the undergrad student body. . Even if you went with the 2013 figures FF numbers would still be only 2% higher. So PP is simply wrong claiming 67%. I knew it had to be wrong because I have a DS there. And I've taught there.


'Tis a pity you are so stupid and yet you actually taught at GMU. You are a poor reflection of the quality of teachers there.




Right . . . you don't like stats. Fairfax County has a large amount of students because they are the best in the state. Same is true when you throw in the rest of the top nova schools. No surprise there. Berkeley and UCLA get most of their kids from the high scoring publics in California's metropolitan areas and few privates. No surprise there either

I would say it is more about proximity.



No. It’s about caliber of student. Name any other high schools of the caliber of Fairfax anywhere else in the state. Name any s hook district like FCPS, Arlington, Asburn (on the rise) in any other part of the state. There aren’t even pockets of great high schools or school districts in the rest of the Commonwealth

huh? The top students in NoVA don't go to GMU. The acceptance rate is like 90%



Not true. Median now has a 4.0 weighted gpa. Go look at SCHEV

what is the average gpa coming out of NoVA high schools? I know at my kids' school, 4.0 would not be a "top student." With so much grade inflation these days, GPA can be tricky. Their Common Data set says for incoming freshman, 14% were in top 10% of class, and 40% were in top quarter. So about 2/3 of incoming freshman were outside the top 25% of their class.

Sorry, I was incorrect on acceptance rate. 91% for in-state, 92% for out of state. 90.2% for FCPS.



For the 100th time, one cannot compare the acceptance rate of a public university to that of privates for a number of reasons but primarily because it is the job of the state high school counselors to steer their students to the best suited public universities. That is their job. This is one of the reasons that UVA’s in state acceptances appear high even though 75th percentile is a 4.47 gpa and a 35 ACT

I am a counselor in FCPS and this is not my job. At all.



Of course it is your job to steer to the best-suited schools. You look at Naviance and SCHEV and lay it out for the parents and students. You don't send in a B+ student to UVA. You don't check off the most rigorous box for a B+ student. You don't write a brilliant letter of recommendation for a B+ student. That is your job. https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3974&context=dissertations

Right. And the Naviance and SCHEV data show that GMU is a great fit for these students. You don't need a "most rigorous" box check for that school, or a brilliant letter of recommendation.



That may be, but in Virginia, the counselor has to be supportive of your application. He or she writes their own letter of recommendation to Virginia publics. He or She decides which of the boxes to check off. So the public high school counselor in Virginia is a gatekeeper.

The counselor is not a gatekeeper in FCPS.
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It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I think it’s mainly because Mason is a commuters school. It has little to do with academics. Like for instance they have one of the best computer science programs in the nation and it is ranked in the top 50. It has a community college feel to it in the sense that most students go to school then head home. But you can compare the quality of education to a lot of top schools.


I want my child to go to Mason and all my friends look at me crazy because she is a top student at a top FCPS HS. She wants to study CS. I think it's a great school and less expensive than UVA or VT with same job prospects.


I had a child at GMU and UVA at the same time, both in dorms and on meal
Plan. GMU was more expensive


Your UVA kid must not be engineering. GMU engineering cheaper than UVA engineering



DS was game design at Mason. DD was PPL at UVA. GMU was more expensive.
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CONGRATS! So happy for you. Our DS is Special Needs so took five years to graduate but lived all five years in the dorms. He had a wonderful time. He never saw it as a commuter school. We saw him only on major holiday FWIW. Good luck. What major if I may ask?
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It's a good school that unfortunately gets overlooked by many solely because it's too close to home.


Exactly. I’m sure other kids (from elsewhere) rule out universities that they live close to as well. Kids from all over come to GMU, so it’s really just locals who pooh-pooh it due to proximity.

I don't know. Well over half of students at GMU are from NoVA.



False.

That's what SCHEV says.

From Fairfax County - 9,602 undergraduates
From Prince William County - 3,794 undergraduates
From Loudoun County - 3,368 undergraduates
From Arlington County - 748 undergraduates
From Alexandria City - 451 undergraduates
From Fairfax City - 333 undergraduates
From Manassas City - 278 undergraduates
From Masassas Park City - 182 undergraduates
From Falls Church City - 68 undergraduates

27,519 undergraduates, so about 67% are from NoVA.




I don't see where SCHEV says that.


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Why is it so hard to simply provide a link?

https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/E12RA_Report.asp


This link is from 2013. And shows none of the above. So I can only assume the above "information" was made up.


The link does show what the PP said about numbers of students from Northern Va going to GMU. Are you incapable of using the SCHEV data search?



This link does not show what PP claims. First, you can get to the figures for 2022 (instead of 2013) by clicking through at the top of the page. That will show you that only the total undergrad student population from Fairfax County is 9,6022, which is only 41.1 percent of the undergrad student body. . Even if you went with the 2013 figures FF numbers would still be only 2% higher. So PP is simply wrong claiming 67%. I knew it had to be wrong because I have a DS there. And I've taught there.


'Tis a pity you are so stupid and yet you actually taught at GMU. You are a poor reflection of the quality of teachers there.




Right . . . you don't like stats. Fairfax County has a large amount of students because they are the best in the state. Same is true when you throw in the rest of the top nova schools. No surprise there. Berkeley and UCLA get most of their kids from the high scoring publics in California's metropolitan areas and few privates. No surprise there either

I would say it is more about proximity.



No. It’s about caliber of student. Name any other high schools of the caliber of Fairfax anywhere else in the state. Name any s hook district like FCPS, Arlington, Asburn (on the rise) in any other part of the state. There aren’t even pockets of great high schools or school districts in the rest of the Commonwealth

huh? The top students in NoVA don't go to GMU. The acceptance rate is like 90%



Not true. Median now has a 4.0 weighted gpa. Go look at SCHEV

what is the average gpa coming out of NoVA high schools? I know at my kids' school, 4.0 would not be a "top student." With so much grade inflation these days, GPA can be tricky. Their Common Data set says for incoming freshman, 14% were in top 10% of class, and 40% were in top quarter. So about 2/3 of incoming freshman were outside the top 25% of their class.

Sorry, I was incorrect on acceptance rate. 91% for in-state, 92% for out of state. 90.2% for FCPS.



For the 100th time, one cannot compare the acceptance rate of a public university to that of privates for a number of reasons but primarily because it is the job of the state high school counselors to steer their students to the best suited public universities. That is their job. This is one of the reasons that UVA’s in state acceptances appear high even though 75th percentile is a 4.47 gpa and a 35 ACT

I am a counselor in FCPS and this is not my job. At all.



Of course it is your job to steer to the best-suited schools. You look at Naviance and SCHEV and lay it out for the parents and students. You don't send in a B+ student to UVA. You don't check off the most rigorous box for a B+ student. You don't write a brilliant letter of recommendation for a B+ student. That is your job. https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3974&context=dissertations

Right. And the Naviance and SCHEV data show that GMU is a great fit for these students. You don't need a "most rigorous" box check for that school, or a brilliant letter of recommendation.



That may be, but in Virginia, the counselor has to be supportive of your application. He or she writes their own letter of recommendation to Virginia publics. He or She decides which of the boxes to check off. So the public high school counselor in Virginia is a gatekeeper.

You are very dense.
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