If you are someone who "warns" people of the dangers of COVID on social media

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.

You're misremembering the past. It's always been common for kids to go to school with colds. That didn't change with the pandemic. If anything, the change is that some people are much more sensitive to seeing kids with cold-like symptoms than they were before the pandemic. Things are starting to go more back to normal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

Reminds me of an encounter pre-Covid: I was at a local TJ Maxx and there was a woman shopping with her daughter--he daughter looked so awful that people were commenting to the mom while in line, is your dd ok, etc..? Mom replied that the daughter had strep but she (the mom) couldn't stand to be at home anymore. So she dragged her sick dd to TJ Maxx to do some non-essential shopping. I haven't forgotten how sick and sad that poor little girl looked.

We just shook our heads, but the mom was so proud she was dragging her sick dd everywhere. Think it stuck with me because my mom did crap like that when I was a child as well.

As an adult, I stay home when I am sick and ignore all the idiots who say it's fine to come to social events. I did this pre Covid, and am still staying home when sick now. There are enough people out there who have little to no paid sick leave, so that if I have some, I need to take it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.

You're misremembering the past. It's always been common for kids to go to school with colds. That didn't change with the pandemic. If anything, the change is that some people are much more sensitive to seeing kids with cold-like symptoms than they were before the pandemic. Things are starting to go more back to normal.

No, I am not misremembering. I'm not talking colds - these are serious respiratory viruses with painful coughs. This theory that we are all more sensitive is bogus - I worked in a school for years pre-Covid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

You think they should just leave young kids home alone?

You don't go, you have someone else watch the child, you go in for only needed items like medication or have it delivered. Or, have someone else get it for you.

A lot of people don't have a support network of people waiting to watch their sick kids or do their shopping for them.

Why doesn't she just have the help watch the kid? Or, even better, do the shopping for her? /s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think many are hypochondriacs who don’t understand basic math or statistics or what actually supports good health (such as exercising, diet, being outside, social connections, etc)

Many are fat and out of shape. They might drink alcohol regularly or be on prescription medication. This is all much more dangerous to the health of a non-elderly person than Covid. I find it strange.

Actually a lot of previously healthy people now have long Covid, and many people are also disabled from it. I'm not on social media posting about precautions, but it's frustrating when people act like Covid is nothing.

It's interesting- I personally know dozens of people who have had Covid, but I don't know a single person who has long Covid. When I hear people say that long Covid is common, I just don't see it.

Interestingly, over 50% of the people I know who had Covid have some form of long Covid. My own (previously healthy) 20 yo took 6 months after getting covid before they could play basketball for more than 10-20 mins (previously could play for 2-3 hours with no issues). 2 months after covid, if they went downstairs to their room and came back up their heart rate was over 200 for at least 5-10 mins and they looked like they'd just run a 10K, not 15 steps, as they huffed and puffed to get air.
Not to mention all the reports of previously healthy under 50 year olds who are just randomly dropping dead from heart issues in the last year or more (several high profile ones in the last few weeks). Interestingly all of these people had covid in last 6 months. So just because you "don't know anyone", it is a real thing, even if you personally don't know anyone. Science and medical personnel know it's a real thing.

[Anonymous]

Nobody without some weird health phobia even cares about COVID anymore. I’ve had it three times. Early 40s. Started running a week out the last time. Long COVID might be a thing but it’s super narrow and over self diagnosed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

No I do not want to shut them all down--but if everyone wore a mask when traveling and when at grocery store/target/church/etc it would help. Majority of kids can wear masks at school---they did it for a year--when illness is so high. We have schools near me with over 30% of the students out sick---that is not normal. I just don't get the All or nothing approach.

People should keep their kids home from school when they are sick and also stay home from work if they are sick. If you know you are sick and must go out, then wear a mask and don't go to restaurants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody without some weird health phobia even cares about COVID anymore. I’ve had it three times. Early 40s. Started running a week out the last time. Long COVID might be a thing but it’s super narrow and over self diagnosed

Have you had your d-dimer checked? I sure would.

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Everyone may know about covid but not everyone has access to accurate info. Most don’t understand airborne viruses and transmission. They obviously did impact you bc you can’t stop posting We are. Ot going to give you a medal to say it’s ok to abandon precautions bc you are sick of it and triggered by a social media post

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Everyone may know about covid but not everyone has access to accurate info. Most don’t understand airborne viruses and transmission. They obviously did impact you bc you can’t stop posting We are. Ot going to give you a medal to say it’s ok to abandon precautions bc you are sick of it and triggered by a social media post

You've just completely made up a bunch of stuff about me because you can't handle me saying I think it's dumb for randos to try to use Twitter to establish public health policy for everyone around them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

No I do not want to shut them all down--but if everyone wore a mask when traveling and when at grocery store/target/church/etc it would help. Majority of kids can wear masks at school---they did it for a year--when illness is so high. We have schools near me with over 30% of the students out sick---that is not normal. I just don't get the All or nothing approach.

People should keep their kids home from school when they are sick and also stay home from work if they are sick. If you know you are sick and must go out, then wear a mask and don't go to restaurants.

That's very reasonable but that message gets lost in all the screeching about how people who don't masks when they are healthy don't understand that people are DYINGm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.

You're misremembering the past. It's always been common for kids to go to school with colds. That didn't change with the pandemic. If anything, the change is that some people are much more sensitive to seeing kids with cold-like symptoms than they were before the pandemic. Things are starting to go more back to normal.

+1 My child's school was very stern pre-pandemic that kids who had sniffles or a cough should be at school-only a fever or gastro symptoms should keep kids home.

[Anonymous]

Wear a mask. Test yourself. Stop spreading it. That is really what you should be doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

No I do not want to shut them all down--but if everyone wore a mask when traveling and when at grocery store/target/church/etc it would help. Majority of kids can wear masks at school---they did it for a year--when illness is so high. We have schools near me with over 30% of the students out sick---that is not normal. I just don't get the All or nothing approach.

People should keep their kids home from school when they are sick and also stay home from work if they are sick. If you know you are sick and must go out, then wear a mask and don't go to restaurants.

That's very reasonable but that message gets lost in all the screeching about how people who don't masks when they are healthy don't understand that people are DYINGm

A lot of ppl don't agree that reinstituting masking I'm schools is reasonable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wear a mask. Test yourself. Stop spreading it. That is really what you should be doing.

Who should be wearing a mask (age?), in what settings and is this indefinite or only during surges in respiratory viruses?