If you are someone who "warns" people of the dangers of COVID on social media

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

No I do not want to shut them all down--but if everyone wore a mask when traveling and when at grocery store/target/church/etc it would help. Majority of kids can wear masks at school---they did it for a year--when illness is so high. We have schools near me with over 30% of the students out sick---that is not normal. I just don't get the All or nothing approach.

People should keep their kids home from school when they are sick and also stay home from work if they are sick. If you know you are sick and must go out, then wear a mask and don't go to restaurants.

. Kids CAN wear masks on schools but there are obvious downsides. Even teachers recognize that, why can't you?

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.

You're misremembering the past. It's always been common for kids to go to school with colds. That didn't change with the pandemic. If anything, the change is that some people are much more sensitive to seeing kids with cold-like symptoms than they were before the pandemic. Things are starting to go more back to normal.

+1 My child's school was very stern pre-pandemic that kids who had sniffles or a cough should be at school-only a fever or gastro symptoms should keep kids home.

I've worked at four schools and not one was "stern" that kids should be there if they aren't feeling well. Especially at the elementary level where this is most rampant.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

No I do not want to shut them all down--but if everyone wore a mask when traveling and when at grocery store/target/church/etc it would help. Majority of kids can wear masks at school---they did it for a year--when illness is so high. We have schools near me with over 30% of the students out sick---that is not normal. I just don't get the All or nothing approach.

People should keep their kids home from school when they are sick and also stay home from work if they are sick. If you know you are sick and must go out, then wear a mask and don't go to restaurants.

That's very reasonable but that message gets lost in all the screeching about how people who don't masks when they are healthy don't understand that people are DYINGm

A lot of ppl don't agree that reinstituting masking I'm schools is reasonable.

I don't care. They are wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

You are offended at someone in the medical field detailing how to keep people safe, alive, schools open and our medical facilities able to function without being overwhelmed? Yes, it's been 3 years, but it has not gone away. Yes, many people are still concerned with people DYING, under 50 year olds dropping dead that were otherwise healthy until they got covid. I want to protect the employees at businesses as well and help keep them in business. So the least I can do is wear a mask when I'm grocery shopping to protect the workers and all others in the store. If everyone were to mask when out and about (except while at restaurants, ie places you can't really mask), then everyone would benefit. I don't get how masking when in Target, on a bus, on an airplane or at the doctor's office causes harm to you and your family? Your young kid would be safer to socialize if cases were lower. It would be a win win for everyone. Except those who for some reason find issues with masking up when out and about.

Why do you think wearing a mask at Target is going to do much to reduce cold/flu/Covid rates when: people are dining in restaurants, going to parties, traveling, attending school and day care, going to church, watching big live events (sports, concerts, etc.)? The only reasonable conclusion is you want to shit these things down too.

No I do not want to shut them all down--but if everyone wore a mask when traveling and when at grocery store/target/church/etc it would help. Majority of kids can wear masks at school---they did it for a year--when illness is so high. We have schools near me with over 30% of the students out sick---that is not normal. I just don't get the All or nothing approach.

People should keep their kids home from school when they are sick and also stay home from work if they are sick. If you know you are sick and must go out, then wear a mask and don't go to restaurants.

That's very reasonable but that message gets lost in all the screeching about how people who don't masks when they are healthy don't understand that people are DYINGm

A lot of ppl don't agree that reinstituting masking I'm schools is reasonable.

I don't care. They are wrong.

DP. So mask your kids. And demand they only eat or drink water when they’re outdoors. Sounds super reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

We've made it so much worse for kids. It is now acceptable for very sick kids to stay at school, ensuring healthy kids get it too. It's madness. Schools are having to call some parents multiple times to take their kids home. The lack of sick leave is a massive issue, but this is not okay either.

You're misremembering the past. It's always been common for kids to go to school with colds. That didn't change with the pandemic. If anything, the change is that some people are much more sensitive to seeing kids with cold-like symptoms than they were before the pandemic. Things are starting to go more back to normal.

No, I am not misremembering. I'm not talking colds - these are serious respiratory viruses with painful coughs. This theory that we are all more sensitive is bogus - I worked in a school for years pre-Covid.

Coughs can sound nasty even when the individual isn’t particularly ill. That that is your go-to example tells me you don’t remember the days before the pandemic. I know a school nurse that is regularly sending kids back to class when their hysterical teachers are trying to get them sent home over nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

You think they should just leave young kids home alone?

You don't go, you have someone else watch the child, you go in for only needed items like medication or have it delivered. Or, have someone else get it for you.

A lot of people don't have a support network of people waiting to watch their sick kids or do their shopping for them.

Then you mask up yourself and your sick kid if you must go into target/grocery store/etc with a quality KN95/N95 mask. Simple to show you care about the community you live in.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

You think they should just leave young kids home alone?

You don't go, you have someone else watch the child, you go in for only needed items like medication or have it delivered. Or, have someone else get it for you.

A lot of people don't have a support network of people waiting to watch their sick kids or do their shopping for them.

Then you mask up yourself and your sick kid if you must go into target/grocery store/etc with a quality KN95/N95 mask. Simple to show you care about the community you live in.

You’re not going to keep a KN95 mask on a young child that’s coughing. Come on.

You can’t be part of society without accepting some risk of illness. This isn’t new. People have always gotten sick.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody without some weird health phobia even cares about COVID anymore. I’ve had it three times. Early 40s. Started running a week out the last time. Long COVID might be a thing but it’s super narrow and over self diagnosed

Have you had your d-dimer checked? I sure would.

No thanks. Dorks like you probably think drinking 6 beers in a row will kill you. I’m not training so I’m drinking beer. I could crank out 6-6:30 miles tomorrow morning at 42.

The fear over COVID is extremely overblown. At least it’s isolated to some narrow dorks on the internet; the rest of us have moved on.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody without some weird health phobia even cares about COVID anymore. I’ve had it three times. Early 40s. Started running a week out the last time. Long COVID might be a thing but it’s super narrow and over self diagnosed

Have you had your d-dimer checked? I sure would.

No thanks. Dorks like you probably think drinking 6 beers in a row will kill you. I’m not training so I’m drinking beer. I could crank out 6-6:30 miles tomorrow morning at 42.

The fear over COVID is extremely overblown. At least it’s isolated to some narrow dorks on the internet; the rest of us have moved on.

Must be nice to have your privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop fcking taking your sick kids out in public! Or at least put a GD make on them.

I was making a Target return and a mom came in with her sick kid. He was visibly and audibly sick. His face was flushed and sweaty and he was hacking all over the store up front. His coughing was so violent that he gagged a few times.

They were just doing normal shopping, too. He was picking out a Gingerbread village from the front of the store (and hacking all over them b/c he wasn't covering his mouth, either).

I'm almost at the point where I want to start recording and shaming these moms. This is like the 3rd or 4th time recently that I've been out and about and encountered an extremely ill kid.

What is sad is how unimportant the kids are to this parent if they'd drag them out sick. Its one thing for medication, its another for regular shopping.

You think they should just leave young kids home alone?

You don't go, you have someone else watch the child, you go in for only needed items like medication or have it delivered. Or, have someone else get it for you.

A lot of people don't have a support network of people waiting to watch their sick kids or do their shopping for them.

Why doesn't she just have the help watch the kid? Or, even better, do the shopping for her? /s

You can order groceries. Walmart delivers.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody without some weird health phobia even cares about COVID anymore. I’ve had it three times. Early 40s. Started running a week out the last time. Long COVID might be a thing but it’s super narrow and over self diagnosed

Have you had your d-dimer checked? I sure would.

No thanks. Dorks like you probably think drinking 6 beers in a row will kill you. I’m not training so I’m drinking beer. I could crank out 6-6:30 miles tomorrow morning at 42.

The fear over COVID is extremely overblown. At least it’s isolated to some narrow dorks on the internet; the rest of us have moved on.

Must be nice to have your privilege.

As opposed to your sense of self-importance that you think the rest of the world should change for your benefit?

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you actually ask the people whose posts you are reading?

Because then they wouldn’t get 11+ pages of attention and virtual azzpats from strangers on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

NP. Pandemics, by their nature, are not "fair". They suck and they are tough to live through. There is a lot of collateral damage going on right now between sicker than normal school children, people in their 20s-40s having higher rates of cardiac arrest, and a high mortality rate for seniors. As someone who doesn't post about it but does still think it's a threat to the general population, it appears that you are annoyed by being reminded of that. I haven't eaten inside in three years, nor have my kids, but I'm not pointing fingers at my friends who have. But I do think that now during this triple-demic winter is a good time for many people to take measures to decrease viral spread - RSV, flu, and Covid are all surging. There is a lot of suffering going on, and it's obvious from just reading this topic daily. We all live in a society. I'm not here to demonize anyone, but at the same time you have to appreciate the burden on healthcare workers and do what you can from time to time to help them out. As viruses ebb and flow, we have to pivot. There is no steady state that "covid is over".

Of course pandemics are not "fair", nobody said they were. PEOPLE can be fair in how they judge people and what they put out into the world. You say you don't post about this, but you just did. You say you're not here to demonize anyone, but clearly you feel people shouldn't be going to any indoor public places unmasked right now, even if they are feeling well.

Sorry, but I have good reasons not to keep my child socially isolated on the weekends (she cannot wear a mask effectively and hates the cold). She has already paid a high enough price (a price which people like you NEVER acknowledge). That is not going to change. What I do think is reasonable is for people to stay home if they are sick and to be conservative about that. But when I see posts like yours, a part of me is like, f*ck it, clearly that's not enough so why try anyway?

If you are going to play gotcha with anyone who responds to you so you can point the finger at them as "posting" about this, then no thanks. You come off as very immature and with a serious martyr complex. Good luck to you.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect people to do?
- Is it just about getting people to get a booster?
- wear a mask indefinitely (in which settings? A full day at school/work? Just the grocery store?)
- avoid any "optional" indoor social activities?
- Pull children out from in-person school/daycare?

It's virtue signaling. They've made their personality about COVID and can't let it go. They just love to prove to everyone that they're such a great person by wearing a mask and avoiding crowds!

Thankfully, I don't see anyone on my FB feed going on and on about COVID. I haven't seen anything from my friends on COVID in months. It's just here on DCUM where I see the hand wringing. IRL, I don't know anyone who cares about this anymore.

At this point it seems to be mostly this. And the specific ppl I know who do this had some anxiety and attention-seekimg tendencies pre-Covid.

I am actually pretty cautious myself but I don't post about it on FB etc. Mostly bc I know nobody cares about my opinion of how they should conduct their lives, ha.

I see there is a PP who is a HCW and I did have one HCW friend who feels similarly that ppl take these gratuitous risks and then HCWs bear the burden of overcrowded hospitals, extra shifts etc and it's exhausting and unfair and sucks. Which totally makes sense. But I haven't seen any HCWs I personally know posting about it on FB etc anymore. Seems more like ppl without much else going on.

OP here. Yes, this is the thing. Why do people feel they need to make pronouncements about what public health measures everyone else should be taking? That is what public health officials are for, and if you don't like what they are saying, take it up with them. Everyone knows about COVID. We've all made our choices, whether you like them or not. We have our reasons, some good, some bad. Random posts on social media are not going to change anyone's behavior.

Did you know you can read a post on social media, scroll on by and not make attention-begging posts about it saying I dOn’t uNdErStAnD?”

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody without some weird health phobia even cares about COVID anymore. I’ve had it three times. Early 40s. Started running a week out the last time. Long COVID might be a thing but it’s super narrow and over self diagnosed

Have you had your d-dimer checked? I sure would.

No thanks. Dorks like you probably think drinking 6 beers in a row will kill you. I’m not training so I’m drinking beer. I could crank out 6-6:30 miles tomorrow morning at 42.

The fear over COVID is extremely overblown. At least it’s isolated to some narrow dorks on the internet; the rest of us have moved on.

Such a big tough guy