Men who steal women’s fertility

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, you have agency over your own lives. No "man" is responsible for your happiness or failure to meet a goal. For every woman like this, theres also some man complaining how his wife "held him back" in some way. Nobody cares about the whining, from men or women. Your life is yours. Picked a bad man....own it. Men, picked a bad woman....you own your choices. Rearrange the genders above however you like to suit your situation.
All you're gonna get is a "I'm so sorry. that's terrible, how sad" and then people move on.

Guess you've never heard of middle eastern countries and many muslim countries where women don't have agency over their own lives. Be glad you are shielded from all that.

We don’t live in the middle east.

Well, we have women from there who now live in the US. And there are many who follow the same cultural practices no matter where they live, even if born and raised in the US.

And are these women posting on DCUM. Is op one of these women? Is Anniston? Didn't think so.

You and OP are no help to women telling them they have zero agency. And men are to blame for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

As a 38 year old woman it's infuriating to see this kind of talk on DCUM.
He didn't steal from you. You aren't a victim you ignored the red flags and now you're dealing with the consequences.

What do you not get? I am posting on DCUM and it is infuriating to see my life experience been dismissed/negated by people like you. I am not saying all women have no agency, I am saying there are some women who have had no agency because of their culture.

I am a victim of my culture, so F off telling me I should deal with it since I chose this. I did not choose this. And people like you would never understand what it is like to be in my shoes and the culture I was raised in. I'm done talking to people like you since it brings back trauma.

You have choices and your choice is to take the easy way out and stay put. That is your choice; it’s not being forced on you. Every day women escape violent situations without absolutely nothing. So you can F with this culture BS.

So true. +100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't date losers.

this is the key!

[Anonymous]

This thread is just weird. Full of people who have no idea how IVF works, infertility and age.
Her husband left, because she couldn’t have children. He did not steal her fertility.
Read the article.

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, you have agency over your own lives. No "man" is responsible for your happiness or failure to meet a goal. For every woman like this, theres also some man complaining how his wife "held him back" in some way. Nobody cares about the whining, from men or women. Your life is yours. Picked a bad man....own it. Men, picked a bad woman....you own your choices. Rearrange the genders above however you like to suit your situation.
All you're gonna get is a "I'm so sorry. that's terrible, how sad" and then people move on.

Guess you've never heard of middle eastern countries and many muslim countries where women don't have agency over their own lives. Be glad you are shielded from all that.

We don’t live in the middle east.

Well, we have women from there who now live in the US. And there are many who follow the same cultural practices no matter where they live, even if born and raised in the US.

And are these women posting on DCUM. Is op one of these women? Is Anniston? Didn't think so.

You and OP are no help to women telling them they have zero agency. And men are to blame for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

As a 38 year old woman it's infuriating to see this kind of talk on DCUM.
He didn't steal from you. You aren't a victim you ignored the red flags and now you're dealing with the consequences.

What do you not get? I am posting on DCUM and it is infuriating to see my life experience been dismissed/negated by people like you. I am not saying all women have no agency, I am saying there are some women who have had no agency because of their culture.

I am a victim of my culture, so F off telling me I should deal with it since I chose this. I did not choose this. And people like you would never understand what it is like to be in my shoes and the culture I was raised in. I'm done talking to people like you since it brings back trauma.

You have choices and your choice is to take the easy way out and stay put. That is your choice; it’s not being forced on you. Every day women escape violent situations without absolutely nothing. So you can F with this culture BS.

NP. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that some of you are so sheltered, you have no idea how other cultures work. My 14 year old cousin recently got caught on social media talking to boys. Totally normal behavior here in the US but strictly forbidden in our culture. Her parents told her they were going back to our country to visit. When she landed, they took her passport and told her she was not returning to the US. Last semester she was at regular American school and now she is in a rural village school in a developing country where she will be indoctrinated to behave according to our cultural expectations and norms. Do you really think she will feel as empowered as your daughters by the time she's an adult? There are many very effective ways to coerce and even force women and girls to behave. Speaking from hard experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, you have agency over your own lives. No "man" is responsible for your happiness or failure to meet a goal. For every woman like this, theres also some man complaining how his wife "held him back" in some way. Nobody cares about the whining, from men or women. Your life is yours. Picked a bad man....own it. Men, picked a bad woman....you own your choices. Rearrange the genders above however you like to suit your situation.
All you're gonna get is a "I'm so sorry. that's terrible, how sad" and then people move on.

Guess you've never heard of middle eastern countries and many muslim countries where women don't have agency over their own lives. Be glad you are shielded from all that.

We don’t live in the middle east.

Well, we have women from there who now live in the US. And there are many who follow the same cultural practices no matter where they live, even if born and raised in the US.

And are these women posting on DCUM. Is op one of these women? Is Anniston? Didn't think so.

You and OP are no help to women telling them they have zero agency. And men are to blame for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

As a 38 year old woman it's infuriating to see this kind of talk on DCUM.
He didn't steal from you. You aren't a victim you ignored the red flags and now you're dealing with the consequences.

What do you not get? I am posting on DCUM and it is infuriating to see my life experience been dismissed/negated by people like you. I am not saying all women have no agency, I am saying there are some women who have had no agency because of their culture.

I am a victim of my culture, so F off telling me I should deal with it since I chose this. I did not choose this. And people like you would never understand what it is like to be in my shoes and the culture I was raised in. I'm done talking to people like you since it brings back trauma.

You have choices and your choice is to take the easy way out and stay put. That is your choice; it’s not being forced on you. Every day women escape violent situations without absolutely nothing. So you can F with this culture BS.

NP. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that some of you are so sheltered, you have no idea how other cultures work. My 14 year old cousin recently got caught on social media talking to boys. Totally normal behavior here in the US but strictly forbidden in our culture. Her parents told her they were going back to our country to visit. When she landed, they took her passport and told her she was not returning to the US. Last semester she was at regular American school and now she is in a rural village school in a developing country where she will be indoctrinated to behave according to our cultural expectations and norms. Do you really think she will feel as empowered as your daughters by the time she's an adult? There are many very effective ways to coerce and even force women and girls to behave. Speaking from hard experience.

Good job with the irrelevant comparison of a child to a grown woman.

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, you have agency over your own lives. No "man" is responsible for your happiness or failure to meet a goal. For every woman like this, theres also some man complaining how his wife "held him back" in some way. Nobody cares about the whining, from men or women. Your life is yours. Picked a bad man....own it. Men, picked a bad woman....you own your choices. Rearrange the genders above however you like to suit your situation.
All you're gonna get is a "I'm so sorry. that's terrible, how sad" and then people move on.

Guess you've never heard of middle eastern countries and many muslim countries where women don't have agency over their own lives. Be glad you are shielded from all that.

We don’t live in the middle east.

Well, we have women from there who now live in the US. And there are many who follow the same cultural practices no matter where they live, even if born and raised in the US.

And are these women posting on DCUM. Is op one of these women? Is Anniston? Didn't think so.

You and OP are no help to women telling them they have zero agency. And men are to blame for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

As a 38 year old woman it's infuriating to see this kind of talk on DCUM.
He didn't steal from you. You aren't a victim you ignored the red flags and now you're dealing with the consequences.

What do you not get? I am posting on DCUM and it is infuriating to see my life experience been dismissed/negated by people like you. I am not saying all women have no agency, I am saying there are some women who have had no agency because of their culture.

I am a victim of my culture, so F off telling me I should deal with it since I chose this. I did not choose this. And people like you would never understand what it is like to be in my shoes and the culture I was raised in. I'm done talking to people like you since it brings back trauma.

You have choices and your choice is to take the easy way out and stay put. That is your choice; it’s not being forced on you. Every day women escape violent situations without absolutely nothing. So you can F with this culture BS.

NP. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that some of you are so sheltered, you have no idea how other cultures work. My 14 year old cousin recently got caught on social media talking to boys. Totally normal behavior here in the US but strictly forbidden in our culture. Her parents told her they were going back to our country to visit. When she landed, they took her passport and told her she was not returning to the US. Last semester she was at regular American school and now she is in a rural village school in a developing country where she will be indoctrinated to behave according to our cultural expectations and norms. Do you really think she will feel as empowered as your daughters by the time she's an adult? There are many very effective ways to coerce and even force women and girls to behave. Speaking from hard experience.

Good job with the irrelevant comparison of a child to a grown woman.

Hi genius. Good job with understanding that some women are not empowered because their society is designed to strip them of their power starting from girlhood. My cousin has almost no chance of having what you all call agency. Do you think she's going to grow up to defy her family and have the same choices you can have? Here's a clue: No. She will do what her family says. She will marry who her parents choose. Then she will do as her husband says. That's how our system works.

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Facebook friends with my ex wife now (email only is boundary out of respect to my wife who knows of her).
She left me back in the day and married someone who didn't want kids ( she wanted them).
I remarried and have children with my wife.
She regrets our split up and feels she was cheated out of having children even though she admits she did it to herself by marrying the dud.

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, you have agency over your own lives. No "man" is responsible for your happiness or failure to meet a goal. For every woman like this, theres also some man complaining how his wife "held him back" in some way. Nobody cares about the whining, from men or women. Your life is yours. Picked a bad man....own it. Men, picked a bad woman....you own your choices. Rearrange the genders above however you like to suit your situation.
All you're gonna get is a "I'm so sorry. that's terrible, how sad" and then people move on.

Guess you've never heard of middle eastern countries and many muslim countries where women don't have agency over their own lives. Be glad you are shielded from all that.

We don’t live in the middle east.

Well, we have women from there who now live in the US. And there are many who follow the same cultural practices no matter where they live, even if born and raised in the US.

And are these women posting on DCUM. Is op one of these women? Is Anniston? Didn't think so.

You and OP are no help to women telling them they have zero agency. And men are to blame for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

As a 38 year old woman it's infuriating to see this kind of talk on DCUM.
He didn't steal from you. You aren't a victim you ignored the red flags and now you're dealing with the consequences.

What do you not get? I am posting on DCUM and it is infuriating to see my life experience been dismissed/negated by people like you. I am not saying all women have no agency, I am saying there are some women who have had no agency because of their culture.

I am a victim of my culture, so F off telling me I should deal with it since I chose this. I did not choose this. And people like you would never understand what it is like to be in my shoes and the culture I was raised in. I'm done talking to people like you since it brings back trauma.

You have choices and your choice is to take the easy way out and stay put. That is your choice; it’s not being forced on you. Every day women escape violent situations without absolutely nothing. So you can F with this culture BS.

NP. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that some of you are so sheltered, you have no idea how other cultures work. My 14 year old cousin recently got caught on social media talking to boys. Totally normal behavior here in the US but strictly forbidden in our culture. Her parents told her they were going back to our country to visit. When she landed, they took her passport and told her she was not returning to the US. Last semester she was at regular American school and now she is in a rural village school in a developing country where she will be indoctrinated to behave according to our cultural expectations and norms. Do you really think she will feel as empowered as your daughters by the time she's an adult? There are many very effective ways to coerce and even force women and girls to behave. Speaking from hard experience.

Good job with the irrelevant comparison of a child to a grown woman.

Hi genius. Good job with understanding that some women are not empowered because their society is designed to strip them of their power starting from girlhood. My cousin has almost no chance of having what you all call agency. Do you think she's going to grow up to defy her family and have the same choices you can have? Here's a clue: No. She will do what her family says. She will marry who her parents choose. Then she will do as her husband says. That's how our system works.

Here's a podcast about a girl who that happened to. I understand that you are angry.

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/680/transcript

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, you have agency over your own lives. No "man" is responsible for your happiness or failure to meet a goal. For every woman like this, theres also some man complaining how his wife "held him back" in some way. Nobody cares about the whining, from men or women. Your life is yours. Picked a bad man....own it. Men, picked a bad woman....you own your choices. Rearrange the genders above however you like to suit your situation.
All you're gonna get is a "I'm so sorry. that's terrible, how sad" and then people move on.

Guess you've never heard of middle eastern countries and many muslim countries where women don't have agency over their own lives. Be glad you are shielded from all that.

We don’t live in the middle east.

Well, we have women from there who now live in the US. And there are many who follow the same cultural practices no matter where they live, even if born and raised in the US.

And are these women posting on DCUM. Is op one of these women? Is Anniston? Didn't think so.

You and OP are no help to women telling them they have zero agency. And men are to blame for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

As a 38 year old woman it's infuriating to see this kind of talk on DCUM.
He didn't steal from you. You aren't a victim you ignored the red flags and now you're dealing with the consequences.

What do you not get? I am posting on DCUM and it is infuriating to see my life experience been dismissed/negated by people like you. I am not saying all women have no agency, I am saying there are some women who have had no agency because of their culture.

I am a victim of my culture, so F off telling me I should deal with it since I chose this. I did not choose this. And people like you would never understand what it is like to be in my shoes and the culture I was raised in. I'm done talking to people like you since it brings back trauma.

You have choices and your choice is to take the easy way out and stay put. That is your choice; it’s not being forced on you. Every day women escape violent situations without absolutely nothing. So you can F with this culture BS.

NP. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that some of you are so sheltered, you have no idea how other cultures work. My 14 year old cousin recently got caught on social media talking to boys. Totally normal behavior here in the US but strictly forbidden in our culture. Her parents told her they were going back to our country to visit. When she landed, they took her passport and told her she was not returning to the US. Last semester she was at regular American school and now she is in a rural village school in a developing country where she will be indoctrinated to behave according to our cultural expectations and norms. Do you really think she will feel as empowered as your daughters by the time she's an adult? There are many very effective ways to coerce and even force women and girls to behave. Speaking from hard experience.

Good job with the irrelevant comparison of a child to a grown woman.

Hi genius. Good job with understanding that some women are not empowered because their society is designed to strip them of their power starting from girlhood. My cousin has almost no chance of having what you all call agency. Do you think she's going to grow up to defy her family and have the same choices you can have? Here's a clue: No. She will do what her family says. She will marry who her parents choose. Then she will do as her husband says. That's how our system works.

why are you so hell bent on relating an irrelevant foreign cultural experience to what happens in society here, in the US. sorry you had to go through with what you do, but maybe seek some professional counseling to help you deal with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, you have agency over your own lives. No "man" is responsible for your happiness or failure to meet a goal. For every woman like this, theres also some man complaining how his wife "held him back" in some way. Nobody cares about the whining, from men or women. Your life is yours. Picked a bad man....own it. Men, picked a bad woman....you own your choices. Rearrange the genders above however you like to suit your situation.
All you're gonna get is a "I'm so sorry. that's terrible, how sad" and then people move on.

Guess you've never heard of middle eastern countries and many muslim countries where women don't have agency over their own lives. Be glad you are shielded from all that.

We don’t live in the middle east.

Well, we have women from there who now live in the US. And there are many who follow the same cultural practices no matter where they live, even if born and raised in the US.

And are these women posting on DCUM. Is op one of these women? Is Anniston? Didn't think so.

You and OP are no help to women telling them they have zero agency. And men are to blame for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

As a 38 year old woman it's infuriating to see this kind of talk on DCUM.
He didn't steal from you. You aren't a victim you ignored the red flags and now you're dealing with the consequences.

What do you not get? I am posting on DCUM and it is infuriating to see my life experience been dismissed/negated by people like you. I am not saying all women have no agency, I am saying there are some women who have had no agency because of their culture.

I am a victim of my culture, so F off telling me I should deal with it since I chose this. I did not choose this. And people like you would never understand what it is like to be in my shoes and the culture I was raised in. I'm done talking to people like you since it brings back trauma.

You have choices and your choice is to take the easy way out and stay put. That is your choice; it’s not being forced on you. Every day women escape violent situations without absolutely nothing. So you can F with this culture BS.

NP. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that some of you are so sheltered, you have no idea how other cultures work. My 14 year old cousin recently got caught on social media talking to boys. Totally normal behavior here in the US but strictly forbidden in our culture. Her parents told her they were going back to our country to visit. When she landed, they took her passport and told her she was not returning to the US. Last semester she was at regular American school and now she is in a rural village school in a developing country where she will be indoctrinated to behave according to our cultural expectations and norms. Do you really think she will feel as empowered as your daughters by the time she's an adult? There are many very effective ways to coerce and even force women and girls to behave. Speaking from hard experience.

Good job with the irrelevant comparison of a child to a grown woman.

Hi genius. Good job with understanding that some women are not empowered because their society is designed to strip them of their power starting from girlhood. My cousin has almost no chance of having what you all call agency. Do you think she's going to grow up to defy her family and have the same choices you can have? Here's a clue: No. She will do what her family says. She will marry who her parents choose. Then she will do as her husband says. That's how our system works.

why are you so hell bent on relating an irrelevant foreign cultural experience to what happens in society here, in the US. sorry you had to go through with what you do, but maybe seek some professional counseling to help you deal with that.

NP and I agree. What does oppressive regime and religious cultural stories about the treatment of women in those countries leaving them with no education, free will or agency have to do with the very first world western post of "I wanted a baby and the idiot I married didn't give me one so it's his fault"?

Way to derail a thread with extreme whataboutism.

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Maybe you two PPs should read the entire thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, you have agency over your own lives. No "man" is responsible for your happiness or failure to meet a goal. For every woman like this, theres also some man complaining how his wife "held him back" in some way. Nobody cares about the whining, from men or women. Your life is yours. Picked a bad man....own it. Men, picked a bad woman....you own your choices. Rearrange the genders above however you like to suit your situation.
All you're gonna get is a "I'm so sorry. that's terrible, how sad" and then people move on.

Guess you've never heard of middle eastern countries and many muslim countries where women don't have agency over their own lives. Be glad you are shielded from all that.

We don’t live in the middle east.

Well, we have women from there who now live in the US. And there are many who follow the same cultural practices no matter where they live, even if born and raised in the US.

And are these women posting on DCUM. Is op one of these women? Is Anniston? Didn't think so.

You and OP are no help to women telling them they have zero agency. And men are to blame for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

As a 38 year old woman it's infuriating to see this kind of talk on DCUM.
He didn't steal from you. You aren't a victim you ignored the red flags and now you're dealing with the consequences.

What do you not get? I am posting on DCUM and it is infuriating to see my life experience been dismissed/negated by people like you. I am not saying all women have no agency, I am saying there are some women who have had no agency because of their culture.

I am a victim of my culture, so F off telling me I should deal with it since I chose this. I did not choose this. And people like you would never understand what it is like to be in my shoes and the culture I was raised in. I'm done talking to people like you since it brings back trauma.

You have choices and your choice is to take the easy way out and stay put. That is your choice; it’s not being forced on you. Every day women escape violent situations without absolutely nothing. So you can F with this culture BS.

So true. +100

Exactly. Nobody's stealing sh*t.

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Boo hoo my fertility was stolen! I can't stand the whining. Just wait until you have something of actual value stolen like a watch or ring. Then see how much you cry

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That’s fantastic.