Men who steal women’s fertility

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I ended up marrying and having children with someone who in the beginning of our relationship said wanted children but in every other action and behavior following that, was actively trying to avoid it. I was ready to leave after 5 yrs and no commitment in sight and that is when he changed his tune and agreed to marriage. And then another delay with starting a family, he refused while I was pushing but when I finally was ready to give up on the idea of a family, he changed his tune again. There were plenty of red flags I could have heeded but I did not.

I love my children but they have the same negative traits as my husband and it makes it so challenging and at times depressing. I didn’t think about how those negative traits would show up in my children. Also, my husband is a decent husband and father, but in general, he is for sure the secondary parent and is often completely checked out with our family. He doesn’t remember things like his children’s birthdays and what school they attend. So that is the result of my less than stellar decision making to starting a family with someone who never wanted a family to begin with and only pretended to so that I would stay.

Life lesson. I am making the best of it any way I can but I often wonder how things might be different if I had listened to what my gut was telling me the first day I met him.

Back to add- I was 29 when I met him. My advice to women of this age who eventually want children is to have a very clear timeline about how long to date someone before they show clear signs of marriage material and commitment. I would say 15 months tops, and I’d be clear about that with your partner.

I am glad you are sharing advice. I often wonder about women who find themselves in these types of situations. My mother and older female relatives gave me dating advice. For example I was told that a man knows when he wants to marry you fairly early and not to wait longer than two years for a proposal. Did you not have anyone around to give you advice?

Ha! No. My mom married a man who was self centered, controlling, and verbally and physically abusive. My one aunt never married but when I confided to her once about his abuse, she told me how lucky I was to have someone like my father. My other aunt married someone who was also physically and verbally abusive and probably alcoholic. And my other aunt married someone who was deceitful and had a gambling addiction. In comparison, I married really well.

PP here. I’m sorry.

[Anonymous]

The technology to freeze eggs had a very low success rate when Jennifer Aniston’s eggs would've been prime for this procedure. The technology works now but it didn’t then.

Neither process - for freezing eggs nor for freezing embryos - is easy, especially for the woman.

Please try to be kind to the women on this forum. If you haven’t gone through it, you can’t know what it’s like.

Anonymous wrote:I agree that it is a terrible thing men do to women, but Jennifer Aniston is a bad example. If anything, it was the other way around. Brad wanted kids and she did not. In fact, he wanted them so badly that he went for a woman who had already adopted a child when they met.
If Aniston had wanted kids, she could have also easily frozen her eggs or embryos. All the stars in Hollywood do it.

[Anonymous]

If you want to have a child, have a child. This is not 1950.

These types if women continue to convince me that they still look at men as an ATM machine.

---SMC, (2) IUIs at 37 and became a mom at 38

[Anonymous]

Jennifer Anniston could easily afford to bear or adopt as many children as she wanted. She could have nannies around the clock. Household help. Everything.

She has no one to blame but herself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jennifer Anniston could easily afford to bear or adopt as many children as she wanted. She could have nannies around the clock. Household help. Everything.

She has no one to blame but herself.

I don't think she wanted children. She certainly could've afforded them and it's not 1950.

I think it's sexist to assume she did want them. Take charge, ladies! Stop putting this on men!

[Anonymous]

I (42) never wanted to have children, but I love to talk to my many male friends about this topic.

They are all in agreement that once they reached 30-35 every woman they met looked at them like they were some kind of sperm donor. Many of them had no intention of becoming fathers yet -- if at all.

If all the men who were persuing me looked at me like I was a broodmare, I would be running too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jennifer Anniston could easily afford to bear or adopt as many children as she wanted. She could have nannies around the clock. Household help. Everything.

She has no one to blame but herself.

I don't think she wanted children. She certainly could've afforded them and it's not 1950.

I think it's sexist to assume she did want them. Take charge, ladies! Stop putting this on men!

Did everyone forget how the joke was how much Brad Pitt wanted kids when they were married but Jennifer Aniston was more focused on her career and wanted to wait. There was a SNL skit on this.

Brad Pitt then had all those kids with Angelina Jolie.

I’m sure there are plenty of women where men steal the women’s fertility but Jennifer Aniston is a bad example. She could have had kids with Brad. They were married and it was no secret he wanted kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing is women have right to divorce these men and move on, freeze embryos etc but they chose to stay in these fruitless pointless marriages. So it's the women mistake just as much as his avoidance of commitment to her

The blame isn’t both parties equally if the man led her on. This often happens until it’s too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jennifer Anniston could easily afford to bear or adopt as many children as she wanted. She could have nannies around the clock. Household help. Everything.

She has no one to blame but herself.

I don't think she wanted children. She certainly could've afforded them and it's not 1950.

I think it's sexist to assume she did want them. Take charge, ladies! Stop putting this on men!

Did everyone forget how the joke was how much Brad Pitt wanted kids when they were married but Jennifer Aniston was more focused on her career and wanted to wait. There was a SNL skit on this.

Brad Pitt then had all those kids with Angelina Jolie.

I’m sure there are plenty of women where men steal the women’s fertility but Jennifer Aniston is a bad example. She could have had kids with Brad. They were married and it was no secret he wanted kids.

Do we think women who have their “fertility stolen” by a scammy guy or just an indecisive wet noodle should be owed compensation from the man?

I kinda feel like there’s a tort here if she was sold a fake bill of goods or the guy went back on his promises.

It’s an interesting thought experiment!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jennifer Anniston could easily afford to bear or adopt as many children as she wanted. She could have nannies around the clock. Household help. Everything.

She has no one to blame but herself.

I don't think she wanted children. She certainly could've afforded them and it's not 1950.

I think it's sexist to assume she did want them. Take charge, ladies! Stop putting this on men!

Did everyone forget how the joke was how much Brad Pitt wanted kids when they were married but Jennifer Aniston was more focused on her career and wanted to wait. There was a SNL skit on this.

Brad Pitt then had all those kids with Angelina Jolie.

I’m sure there are plenty of women where men steal the women’s fertility but Jennifer Aniston is a bad example. She could have had kids with Brad. They were married and it was no secret he wanted kids.

Do we think women who have their “fertility stolen” by a scammy guy or just an indecisive wet noodle should be owed compensation from the man?

I kinda feel like there’s a tort here if she was sold a fake bill of goods or the guy went back on his promises.

It’s an interesting thought experiment!

Men's fertility have been stolen as well.

[Anonymous]

And now the woman can file for divorce and get herself to a sperm donor list. She can be a mother by this time next year. Stop whining and get a move on.

[Anonymous]

Check pawn shops, ebay, etc. A lot of times the stolen fertility of UMC DMV women is picked up cheap by single ladies in cheaper zip codes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing is women have right to divorce these men and move on, freeze embryos etc but they chose to stay in these fruitless pointless marriages. So it's the women mistake just as much as his avoidance of commitment to her

+1 No one is 'stealing' anyone's fertility. There are many ways to become a mother.

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The first being to discuss your timeline and get a commitment to it BEFORE the wedding.
And if he starts changing it up after the wedding, assert your position.
And if he still holds the line, divorce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check pawn shops, ebay, etc. A lot of times the stolen fertility of UMC DMV women is picked up cheap by single ladies in cheaper zip codes.

😂

[Anonymous]

Totally immoral to date a woman in her late 20’s or 30’s for more than a year with no ring. But women need to show these men the door, not hang around hoping it works out.