How big a deal are the recent teacher involuntary transfers?

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Anonymous wrote:Too late, it has already happened. It is what it is.

Nope.

Fun movie!

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What WOULD happen if teachers went on strike. I've been in MCPS for 20+ years and have always heard about the mysterious "No Strike" clause; but have never read or heard what the consequences are if the teachers, who are just about done with MCPS walked out the door? Fire us?? :-/
#chicago #california #nyc

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Anonymous wrote:What WOULD happen if teachers went on strike. I've been in MCPS for 20+ years and have always heard about the mysterious "No Strike" clause; but have never read or heard what the consequences are if the teachers, who are just about done with MCPS walked out the door? Fire us?? :-/
#chicago #california #nyc

We would lose union representation for two years. Unclear what else could happen then.

https://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/education/title-6/subtitle-4/6-410
2010 Maryland Code
EDUCATION
TITLE 6 - TEACHERS AND OTHER PERSONNEL
Subtitle 4 - Organizations of Certificated Employees
Section 6-410 - Strikes prohibited; penalties.

§ 6-410. Strikes prohibited; penalties.
(a) Strikes prohibited.- An employee organization may not call or direct a strike.
(b) Penalties.-
(1) Any employee organization designated as an exclusive representative that violates any provision of this section shall have its designation as exclusive representative revoked by the public school employer and the employee organization and any other employee organization that violates any provision of this section is ineligible to be designated as exclusive representative for a period of 2 years after the violation.
(2) If an employee organization violates any provision of this section, the public school employer shall stop making payroll deductions for dues of the organization for 1 year after the violation.

Instead of a strike, MSEA (Maryland State Educators Association) recommends "Work to Rule". Basically, only work contracted hours and don't do any of the "extras".
https://marylandeducators.org/career-resources/professional-development/in-the-workplace/work-to-rule/

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Anonymous wrote:First they drop CareFirst BC/BS, and now this. Yet more of Dr. McKnight's "New Beginning" for us teachers. She should save her breath and simply give us one of these 🖕

I know it's great that she's heading off the teacher shortage before it becomes a problem and also looking out for teachers by getting rid of a third rate insurance provider that almost nobody even takes these days.

Oh? If she's claiming she's "fixing the hiring problem", it sounds like a serious case of Hero Syndrome to me. In my view, it was her total incompetence and lack of attention to staffing issues last year when teachers were begging for help, the mishandling of the January covid fiasco, flipping the bird to the MCEA on two no confidence votes, that made teachers want to quit in the first place.

And I think you meant the Maryland IG is cleaning up the MCPS insurance issues? Unless you're saying she's taking credit for that as well?
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OIG/Resources/Files/PDF/IGNewsRelease/2022/MCPSRetainsPrepaidInsurancePremiumsPublication.pdf

If you think that’s why teachers are quitting you haven’t been paying attention. Further if McKnight is the reason, then why are districts all across the country experiencing the same problem??

Of course, McKnight has nothing to do with it, but these cranks have an agenda.

You're both right, but the McKnight Stalker is going to post these wacky conspiracies no matter what.

At this point I ignore them. It's not like anyone serious cares about their wacky conspiracy theories.

I think it's ironic that you and your partner seem to be the only "conspiracists" around? I read these carefully. You use the same words over and over again because you have no good responses and no new material or news articles to support your POV. However, the ticked off teachers and parents are genuine. Different opinions. Different material.

No, there is no "stalker" or conspiracy against McKnight. If she was a good superintendent, people would agree with you. But she's not. And there are tangible and well-documented reasons why she's not.

If you're with the boe, or just with MCPS, I couldn't say. But I do know the more you try to defend her, the more likely you'll get caught into the tailspin as she crashes.

If she's done her job properly and is competent, there will be no further staffing issues in August. No additional overcrowding - especially since the student population has dropped, not increased.

Or you could accept that there are others who live outside your bubble who don’t agree with you.

Staffing issues exist because teachers retired or quit, en masse across the country. This happened because teachers are tired, worn down, and want to be compensated on a similar level as other with their level of training and hours worked. Some teachers are not even against fully revamp the model to go year round school.

The student population decreased last year. We have no idea what it will be this year. And just because there was decrease, does not mean overcrowding was eliminated, because the decrease wasn’t just purely from schools that were overcrowded.

So unless McKnight can suddenly conjure up trained teachers, substitutes, and bus drivers out of thin air there are going to be problems come August. Putting plans in place now to address some of those issues and risk is the smart thing to do. Will some be inconvenienced? yes, but so is life.

You're basically admitting that she focused on the wrong things as a leader. She wasted her time on looking for discrimination witches hiding in the closet, and keeping teachers in seats exposing them to possible covid infection instead of keeping schools staffed and the teachers happy and safe so they can reopen in the Fall.

MCPS leadership has no one to blame but themselves. There is no scapegoat they can pin this one on.

No we’re acknowledging reality of a nationwide teacher shortage that is affecting everywhere. If you want to keep ignoring reality that on you. If people are surprised that teachers are moving around and a variety of plans and shifting of plans in happening, then that’s on them for not paying attention to everything that been happening all year.

Not really sure what folks thought would happen if the county couldn’t fill all the open positions.

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Anonymous wrote:First they drop CareFirst BC/BS, and now this. Yet more of Dr. McKnight's "New Beginning" for us teachers. She should save her breath and simply give us one of these 🖕

I know it's great that she's heading off the teacher shortage before it becomes a problem and also looking out for teachers by getting rid of a third rate insurance provider that almost nobody even takes these days.

Oh? If she's claiming she's "fixing the hiring problem", it sounds like a serious case of Hero Syndrome to me. In my view, it was her total incompetence and lack of attention to staffing issues last year when teachers were begging for help, the mishandling of the January covid fiasco, flipping the bird to the MCEA on two no confidence votes, that made teachers want to quit in the first place.

And I think you meant the Maryland IG is cleaning up the MCPS insurance issues? Unless you're saying she's taking credit for that as well?
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OIG/Resources/Files/PDF/IGNewsRelease/2022/MCPSRetainsPrepaidInsurancePremiumsPublication.pdf

If you think that’s why teachers are quitting you haven’t been paying attention. Further if McKnight is the reason, then why are districts all across the country experiencing the same problem??

Of course, McKnight has nothing to do with it, but these cranks have an agenda.

You're both right, but the McKnight Stalker is going to post these wacky conspiracies no matter what.

At this point I ignore them. It's not like anyone serious cares about their wacky conspiracy theories.

I think it's ironic that you and your partner seem to be the only "conspiracists" around? I read these carefully. You use the same words over and over again because you have no good responses and no new material or news articles to support your POV. However, the ticked off teachers and parents are genuine. Different opinions. Different material.

No, there is no "stalker" or conspiracy against McKnight. If she was a good superintendent, people would agree with you. But she's not. And there are tangible and well-documented reasons why she's not.

If you're with the boe, or just with MCPS, I couldn't say. But I do know the more you try to defend her, the more likely you'll get caught into the tailspin as she crashes.

If she's done her job properly and is competent, there will be no further staffing issues in August. No additional overcrowding - especially since the student population has dropped, not increased.

Or you could accept that there are others who live outside your bubble who don’t agree with you.

Staffing issues exist because teachers retired or quit, en masse across the country. This happened because teachers are tired, worn down, and want to be compensated on a similar level as other with their level of training and hours worked. Some teachers are not even against fully revamp the model to go year round school.

The student population decreased last year. We have no idea what it will be this year. And just because there was decrease, does not mean overcrowding was eliminated, because the decrease wasn’t just purely from schools that were overcrowded.

So unless McKnight can suddenly conjure up trained teachers, substitutes, and bus drivers out of thin air there are going to be problems come August. Putting plans in place now to address some of those issues and risk is the smart thing to do. Will some be inconvenienced? yes, but so is life.

You're basically admitting that she focused on the wrong things as a leader. She wasted her time on looking for discrimination witches hiding in the closet, and keeping teachers in seats exposing them to possible covid infection instead of keeping schools staffed and the teachers happy and safe so they can reopen in the Fall.

MCPS leadership has no one to blame but themselves. There is no scapegoat they can pin this one on.

No we’re acknowledging reality of a nationwide teacher shortage that is affecting everywhere. If you want to keep ignoring reality that on you. If people are surprised that teachers are moving around and a variety of plans and shifting of plans in happening, then that’s on them for not paying attention to everything that been happening all year.

Not really sure what folks thought would happen if the county couldn’t fill all the open positions.

The nationwide teacher shortage is clearly McKngiht's fault and don't get me started on bocce!

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How big a deal? I'm looking at my 5th school in 7 years. It's exhausting.

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Shuffling teachers around will make more quit due to lack of support. They really need to create a bonus system as a way to offset criticism and be fair to teachers.

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I’m a little sick of hearing them say it’s a nationside teacher shortage. Many of us moved here specifically because this was supposed to be one of the richest school districts in the country. Let’s steal teachers from other district—isn’t that what the rich do? Offer more and get rid of the cap on laterals!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a little sick of hearing them say it’s a nationside teacher shortage. Many of us moved here specifically because this was supposed to be one of the richest school districts in the country. Let’s steal teachers from other district—isn’t that what the rich do? Offer more and get rid of the cap on laterals!

Sure. But it's one of the richest school districts in one of the most expensive areas to live. It doesn't quite balance, even then. Lots of teachers commute in from Frederick county or farther.

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Anonymous wrote:First they drop CareFirst BC/BS, and now this. Yet more of Dr. McKnight's "New Beginning" for us teachers. She should save her breath and simply give us one of these 🖕

I know it's great that she's heading off the teacher shortage before it becomes a problem and also looking out for teachers by getting rid of a third rate insurance provider that almost nobody even takes these days.

Oh? If she's claiming she's "fixing the hiring problem", it sounds like a serious case of Hero Syndrome to me. In my view, it was her total incompetence and lack of attention to staffing issues last year when teachers were begging for help, the mishandling of the January covid fiasco, flipping the bird to the MCEA on two no confidence votes, that made teachers want to quit in the first place.

And I think you meant the Maryland IG is cleaning up the MCPS insurance issues? Unless you're saying she's taking credit for that as well?
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OIG/Resources/Files/PDF/IGNewsRelease/2022/MCPSRetainsPrepaidInsurancePremiumsPublication.pdf

If you think that’s why teachers are quitting you haven’t been paying attention. Further if McKnight is the reason, then why are districts all across the country experiencing the same problem??

Of course, McKnight has nothing to do with it, but these cranks have an agenda.

You're both right, but the McKnight Stalker is going to post these wacky conspiracies no matter what.

At this point I ignore them. It's not like anyone serious cares about their wacky conspiracy theories.

I think it's ironic that you and your partner seem to be the only "conspiracists" around? I read these carefully. You use the same words over and over again because you have no good responses and no new material or news articles to support your POV. However, the ticked off teachers and parents are genuine. Different opinions. Different material.

No, there is no "stalker" or conspiracy against McKnight. If she was a good superintendent, people would agree with you. But she's not. And there are tangible and well-documented reasons why she's not.

If you're with the boe, or just with MCPS, I couldn't say. But I do know the more you try to defend her, the more likely you'll get caught into the tailspin as she crashes.

If she's done her job properly and is competent, there will be no further staffing issues in August. No additional overcrowding - especially since the student population has dropped, not increased.

Or you could accept that there are others who live outside your bubble who don’t agree with you.

Staffing issues exist because teachers retired or quit, en masse across the country. This happened because teachers are tired, worn down, and want to be compensated on a similar level as other with their level of training and hours worked. Some teachers are not even against fully revamp the model to go year round school.

The student population decreased last year. We have no idea what it will be this year. And just because there was decrease, does not mean overcrowding was eliminated, because the decrease wasn’t just purely from schools that were overcrowded.

So unless McKnight can suddenly conjure up trained teachers, substitutes, and bus drivers out of thin air there are going to be problems come August. Putting plans in place now to address some of those issues and risk is the smart thing to do. Will some be inconvenienced? yes, but so is life.

You're basically admitting that she focused on the wrong things as a leader. She wasted her time on looking for discrimination witches hiding in the closet, and keeping teachers in seats exposing them to possible covid infection instead of keeping schools staffed and the teachers happy and safe so they can reopen in the Fall.

MCPS leadership has no one to blame but themselves. There is no scapegoat they can pin this one on.

No we’re acknowledging reality of a nationwide teacher shortage that is affecting everywhere. If you want to keep ignoring reality that on you. If people are surprised that teachers are moving around and a variety of plans and shifting of plans in happening, then that’s on them for not paying attention to everything that been happening all year.

Not really sure what folks thought would happen if the county couldn’t fill all the open positions.

The nationwide teacher shortage is clearly McKngiht's fault and don't get me started on bocce!

no, but what is her fault is a bad January covid policy that wore down the teachers, shuffling them around like cards, and going off on a junket instead of actually recuiting like she said she was going to do.

You'll say she's the greatest thing since sliced bread. We get it. You're her little mouthpiece. What you don't get is how much we really don't care.

One of two things will happen at the end of August. MCPS will be fully staffed, or it won't. And if it isn't, it's not the fault of parents, or teachers, or anyone else except MCPS leadership. They are paid to do a job, and if they can't do that, they need to be fired.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a little sick of hearing them say it’s a nationside teacher shortage. Many of us moved here specifically because this was supposed to be one of the richest school districts in the country. Let’s steal teachers from other district—isn’t that what the rich do? Offer more and get rid of the cap on laterals!

Younger teachers can't afford to live in this area easily. Older teachers can't leave due to years if service and pension not transferring. Schools systems/states have basically acted as a cabal to prevent teachers from easily moving from one area to another.

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I’m a teacher who moved to MCPS from a supposedly worse school district and I have not been impressed by MCPS at all.
Perhaps it used to be better?

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It was. It can be again, but a lot of changes need to be made at the board level, top management and in the Central Office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher who moved to MCPS from a supposedly worse school district and I have not been impressed by MCPS at all.
Perhaps it used to be better?

Me too but MCPS seems like paradise to me. Just saying most of you have no idea what it's like elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:First they drop CareFirst BC/BS, and now this. Yet more of Dr. McKnight's "New Beginning" for us teachers. She should save her breath and simply give us one of these 🖕

I know it's great that she's heading off the teacher shortage before it becomes a problem and also looking out for teachers by getting rid of a third rate insurance provider that almost nobody even takes these days.

Oh? If she's claiming she's "fixing the hiring problem", it sounds like a serious case of Hero Syndrome to me. In my view, it was her total incompetence and lack of attention to staffing issues last year when teachers were begging for help, the mishandling of the January covid fiasco, flipping the bird to the MCEA on two no confidence votes, that made teachers want to quit in the first place.

And I think you meant the Maryland IG is cleaning up the MCPS insurance issues? Unless you're saying she's taking credit for that as well?
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OIG/Resources/Files/PDF/IGNewsRelease/2022/MCPSRetainsPrepaidInsurancePremiumsPublication.pdf

If you think that’s why teachers are quitting you haven’t been paying attention. Further if McKnight is the reason, then why are districts all across the country experiencing the same problem??

Of course, McKnight has nothing to do with it, but these cranks have an agenda.

You're both right, but the McKnight Stalker is going to post these wacky conspiracies no matter what.

At this point I ignore them. It's not like anyone serious cares about their wacky conspiracy theories.

I think it's ironic that you and your partner seem to be the only "conspiracists" around? I read these carefully. You use the same words over and over again because you have no good responses and no new material or news articles to support your POV. However, the ticked off teachers and parents are genuine. Different opinions. Different material.

No, there is no "stalker" or conspiracy against McKnight. If she was a good superintendent, people would agree with you. But she's not. And there are tangible and well-documented reasons why she's not.

If you're with the boe, or just with MCPS, I couldn't say. But I do know the more you try to defend her, the more likely you'll get caught into the tailspin as she crashes.

If she's done her job properly and is competent, there will be no further staffing issues in August. No additional overcrowding - especially since the student population has dropped, not increased.

Or you could accept that there are others who live outside your bubble who don’t agree with you.

Staffing issues exist because teachers retired or quit, en masse across the country. This happened because teachers are tired, worn down, and want to be compensated on a similar level as other with their level of training and hours worked. Some teachers are not even against fully revamp the model to go year round school.

The student population decreased last year. We have no idea what it will be this year. And just because there was decrease, does not mean overcrowding was eliminated, because the decrease wasn’t just purely from schools that were overcrowded.

So unless McKnight can suddenly conjure up trained teachers, substitutes, and bus drivers out of thin air there are going to be problems come August. Putting plans in place now to address some of those issues and risk is the smart thing to do. Will some be inconvenienced? yes, but so is life.

You're basically admitting that she focused on the wrong things as a leader. She wasted her time on looking for discrimination witches hiding in the closet, and keeping teachers in seats exposing them to possible covid infection instead of keeping schools staffed and the teachers happy and safe so they can reopen in the Fall.

MCPS leadership has no one to blame but themselves. There is no scapegoat they can pin this one on.

No we’re acknowledging reality of a nationwide teacher shortage that is affecting everywhere. If you want to keep ignoring reality that on you. If people are surprised that teachers are moving around and a variety of plans and shifting of plans in happening, then that’s on them for not paying attention to everything that been happening all year.

Not really sure what folks thought would happen if the county couldn’t fill all the open positions.

The nationwide teacher shortage is clearly McKngiht's fault and don't get me started on bocce!

no, but what is her fault is a bad January covid policy that wore down the teachers, shuffling them around like cards, and going off on a junket instead of actually recuiting like she said she was going to do.

You'll say she's the greatest thing since sliced bread. We get it. You're her little mouthpiece. What you don't get is how much we really don't care.

One of two things will happen at the end of August. MCPS will be fully staffed, or it won't. And if it isn't, it's not the fault of parents, or teachers, or anyone else except MCPS leadership. They are paid to do a job, and if they can't do that, they need to be fired.

I hear MCPS is hiring. Sure they would love to have your unparalleled skills.