Middle aged dating is trash!

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Anonymous wrote:A LOT of bitterness here.

The man above is extremely abusive towards women his age, and completely lacks self-awareness

PP. I am a 54 y.o. woman.

Abs you are sleeping with 20 yo women ? I was responding to that PP

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Anonymous wrote:To all the old ladies dating the young studs, I have a question. Why don't I ever see you together with your boy toy at a restaurant or club, on a hiking or biking trail, on a boat, or at church? Why when I travel to Las Vegas, Miami, Honolulu or Paris do I only see older men with younger women, and not granny with her young Latin penis?

Because I take my kids on my vacations. I’m secure in myself, I don’t need to prove to the world I’m desirable to 20 year olds. Boy toys are just that - toys. Fun to play with, but my kids or my girlfriends are much better company and get all my vacation time.

The men who parade women as young as their daughters around are always neglectful parents who don’t spend any time with their kids because they’re too busy pretending to be a kid. I’m not like them.

And church? Really? How many old farts do you know who are taking 22 year olds to church?

So what's in it for the guys? How much do you have to pay them?

Sex.

But they can have sex with someone who is younger, prettier, and tighter who doesn't have kids at home.

I don't have kids. I hit my pretty peak at 42, I'm a personal trainer, and I'm definitely way better in bed than I was in my twenties and early thirties.

LMAO no you were NOT prettier at 42 than you were at 22. Sorry. It’s all downhill for all women after their early 20s, that’s inescapable biological fact.

it always amazed me how readily men pay for sex. Isn't it offensive and damaging to your own esteem to know that your 22 y.o. girlfriend is basically an expensive paid hooker? You wake up and look in the mirror and then jump into bed: do you really think she's enjoying your smelly breath and the scent of a 55 y.o. man's body? Men after 50 do have a different smell, somewhat sour.

One way or another, every man always pays for sex. Men who are "dating" and not "paying for escorts" - go ahead and track what you spend on dates and divide that by the number of sex acts and you will find the "cost per act" is comparable if not more than the cost for an escort. So, you could say, if you're gonna pay for sex anyway, you might as well pay for it with a young and pretty woman.

But that aside, as an older man who dates 20-something women, I can assure you that the men who are able to do that are not nasty and smelly. You have to be very sexworthy to date much younger women. She is not going to have sex with some smelly flabby dad-bod dude, because she doesn't have to. She's not even going to be around an older guy she doesn't enjoy being around, because, again, she doesn't have to. Women in their 20s have essentially unlimited sexual options. Duh. Therefore, having sex with 20-somethings does not damage my self esteem, it increases it, because it confirms that I am good enough to pull a much younger woman.

Cope and seethe all you like about how she "just wants your money" - the fact is, there are young women who actively prefer older men, though they tend to keep that secret because many other women try to shame them for it.

Wishful thinking on your part that 20 y.o. sleeping with you are driven by their desire of a sex with experienced man. There are 35y.. men for that (and I slept with such men in my 20s, which was cool). But a 50+ man is basically a grandfather for 20+ . These are seriously damaged or unpopular with peers girls that sleep with you.

And you are seriously damaged if you think that spending on dates is what you pay for dates. A good looking escort is $5,000 and over per hour. So you are actually "saving" a lot by your logic by dating vs just hired sex.

Anyway, you are one really trashy man upon reading your spreadsheet of dating expenses/sex acts. Hope I never cross my paths with someone like that!

Singed a 40 y.o. divorced woman with 250K income who can pay for her own coffee on dates.

Yeah yeah yeah, more coping and seething from bitter old women. "Only damaged young women would sleep with you!" I understand that's what you need to think to mask your raging jealousy of younger women, who are freely making their own choices.

I bet that despite your supposed high income, you still expect men to buy you dinner because reasons.

You are the epitome why women here write that middle age dating is trashy. Calculating the costs of sex acts depending on your investments in dinners is beyond trashy. Calling a 41 y.o. woman who is probably younger than you "old" is also pretty trashy, sexist and full of your own shit.
I feel sorry for those 20 y.o. students who are probably from some Eastern European countries and are hungry for your dinners in exchange for sex. And remember: 55 y.o. men stink regardless if they took shower or not, particular during sex.

Don't know any impoverished Eastern European women, wouldn't even know how to find one. I date UMC American women. They don't need my money, and they're not putting out for dinner. It's hilarious you think of this like I'm trolling through some slum in Brazil or the Philippines. You're mentally incapable of understanding that some younger women prefer older men, so such relationships in your mind have to be squalid and degrading. Sorry, you're wrong.

As for the "stink", just how many 55yo men have you had sex with that you know they all stink? Sounds like you're unable to attract a high quality non-stinky man. Too bad for you. Upgrade your own hygiene and physical appearance and you'll do better.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the old ladies dating the young studs, I have a question. Why don't I ever see you together with your boy toy at a restaurant or club, on a hiking or biking trail, on a boat, or at church? Why when I travel to Las Vegas, Miami, Honolulu or Paris do I only see older men with younger women, and not granny with her young Latin penis?

Men age so much worse than women I am not sure how you could know. Men won’t even use a mild retinol or some rogaine.

LOL no women do not age better than men, the women my age on the apps are fat wrinkled bags of suet.

Some of them are 10 pounds of potatoes stuffed into 5 pound bags. Others are just dumpster fires. Mid-50s male.

Sorry you're having that experience. I'm 51 and 5'9", 120 lbs, brown/green, 32DD, still ovulating and not a speck of cellulite anywhere.

You seem Underweight.

seriously underweight. Scarily underweight.

Yeah, that is haggard - with botox and fillers, of course!

It. Looks. Horrible.

You know what's horrible? Your inner life, lady. As I stated above, I am 100% natural, no botox/fillers/surgery/restrictive foundation garments and no dieting just a healthy home-cooked diet and enjoying the outdoors. This is my natural body and has been since I was 19. It looks healthy, because I am, and because I love my body the way it is. I have been 15 pounds heavier and that was fine too. I will keep hiking and eating healthy and wearing sunblock!

I originally posted my stats as a counterpoint to the guy troll saying that all middle aged women are bags of flab stuffed into Spanx, which isn't true. That guy is an ass, as we've seen, and will get his comeuppance eventually (I mean he's already divorced/rejected which seems to have been lost on him). It is very sad to then see other women tearing this woman (me) down for being genetically thin. You all have serious issues.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the old ladies dating the young studs, I have a question. Why don't I ever see you together with your boy toy at a restaurant or club, on a hiking or biking trail, on a boat, or at church? Why when I travel to Las Vegas, Miami, Honolulu or Paris do I only see older men with younger women, and not granny with her young Latin penis?

Because I take my kids on my vacations. I’m secure in myself, I don’t need to prove to the world I’m desirable to 20 year olds. Boy toys are just that - toys. Fun to play with, but my kids or my girlfriends are much better company and get all my vacation time.

The men who parade women as young as their daughters around are always neglectful parents who don’t spend any time with their kids because they’re too busy pretending to be a kid. I’m not like them.

And church? Really? How many old farts do you know who are taking 22 year olds to church?

So what's in it for the guys? How much do you have to pay them?

Sex.

But they can have sex with someone who is younger, prettier, and tighter who doesn't have kids at home.

I don't have kids. I hit my pretty peak at 42, I'm a personal trainer, and I'm definitely way better in bed than I was in my twenties and early thirties.

LMAO no you were NOT prettier at 42 than you were at 22. Sorry. It’s all downhill for all women after their early 20s, that’s inescapable biological fact.

it always amazed me how readily men pay for sex. Isn't it offensive and damaging to your own esteem to know that your 22 y.o. girlfriend is basically an expensive paid hooker? You wake up and look in the mirror and then jump into bed: do you really think she's enjoying your smelly breath and the scent of a 55 y.o. man's body? Men after 50 do have a different smell, somewhat sour.

One way or another, every man always pays for sex. Men who are "dating" and not "paying for escorts" - go ahead and track what you spend on dates and divide that by the number of sex acts and you will find the "cost per act" is comparable if not more than the cost for an escort. So, you could say, if you're gonna pay for sex anyway, you might as well pay for it with a young and pretty woman.

But that aside, as an older man who dates 20-something women, I can assure you that the men who are able to do that are not nasty and smelly. You have to be very sexworthy to date much younger women. She is not going to have sex with some smelly flabby dad-bod dude, because she doesn't have to. She's not even going to be around an older guy she doesn't enjoy being around, because, again, she doesn't have to. Women in their 20s have essentially unlimited sexual options. Duh. Therefore, having sex with 20-somethings does not damage my self esteem, it increases it, because it confirms that I am good enough to pull a much younger woman.

Cope and seethe all you like about how she "just wants your money" - the fact is, there are young women who actively prefer older men, though they tend to keep that secret because many other women try to shame them for it.

Wishful thinking on your part that 20 y.o. sleeping with you are driven by their desire of a sex with experienced man. There are 35y.. men for that (and I slept with such men in my 20s, which was cool). But a 50+ man is basically a grandfather for 20+ . These are seriously damaged or unpopular with peers girls that sleep with you.

And you are seriously damaged if you think that spending on dates is what you pay for dates. A good looking escort is $5,000 and over per hour. So you are actually "saving" a lot by your logic by dating vs just hired sex.

Anyway, you are one really trashy man upon reading your spreadsheet of dating expenses/sex acts. Hope I never cross my paths with someone like that!

Singed a 40 y.o. divorced woman with 250K income who can pay for her own coffee on dates.

Yeah yeah yeah, more coping and seething from bitter old women. "Only damaged young women would sleep with you!" I understand that's what you need to think to mask your raging jealousy of younger women, who are freely making their own choices.

I bet that despite your supposed high income, you still expect men to buy you dinner because reasons.

You are the epitome why women here write that middle age dating is trashy. Calculating the costs of sex acts depending on your investments in dinners is beyond trashy. Calling a 41 y.o. woman who is probably younger than you "old" is also pretty trashy, sexist and full of your own shit.
I feel sorry for those 20 y.o. students who are probably from some Eastern European countries and are hungry for your dinners in exchange for sex. And remember: 55 y.o. men stink regardless if they took shower or not, particular during sex.

Don't know any impoverished Eastern European women, wouldn't even know how to find one. I date UMC American women. They don't need my money, and they're not putting out for dinner. It's hilarious you think of this like I'm trolling through some slum in Brazil or the Philippines. You're mentally incapable of understanding that some younger women prefer older men, so such relationships in your mind have to be squalid and degrading. Sorry, you're wrong.

As for the "stink", just how many 55yo men have you had sex with that you know they all stink? Sounds like you're unable to attract a high quality non-stinky man. Too bad for you. Upgrade your own hygiene and physical appearance and you'll do better.

Too bad these UMC women don't know how much you value their sex vs escort. You literally go around with your cost analysis of dinners you offer them and the number of sex acts you got in exchange. That stinks. Yakee.

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Stop feeding that troll guy. He's obviously someone who couldn't get laid when he was younger, or even during marriage, and is now very excited about having enough money to attract a young woman with daddy issues. What's hilarious is he's probably not even that rich, which is why he can only date women under 30, who are easily impressed.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the old ladies dating the young studs, I have a question. Why don't I ever see you together with your boy toy at a restaurant or club, on a hiking or biking trail, on a boat, or at church? Why when I travel to Las Vegas, Miami, Honolulu or Paris do I only see older men with younger women, and not granny with her young Latin penis?

Because I take my kids on my vacations. I’m secure in myself, I don’t need to prove to the world I’m desirable to 20 year olds. Boy toys are just that - toys. Fun to play with, but my kids or my girlfriends are much better company and get all my vacation time.

The men who parade women as young as their daughters around are always neglectful parents who don’t spend any time with their kids because they’re too busy pretending to be a kid. I’m not like them.

And church? Really? How many old farts do you know who are taking 22 year olds to church?

So what's in it for the guys? How much do you have to pay them?

Sex.

But they can have sex with someone who is younger, prettier, and tighter who doesn't have kids at home.

I don't have kids. I hit my pretty peak at 42, I'm a personal trainer, and I'm definitely way better in bed than I was in my twenties and early thirties.

LMAO no you were NOT prettier at 42 than you were at 22. Sorry. It’s all downhill for all women after their early 20s, that’s inescapable biological fact.

it always amazed me how readily men pay for sex. Isn't it offensive and damaging to your own esteem to know that your 22 y.o. girlfriend is basically an expensive paid hooker? You wake up and look in the mirror and then jump into bed: do you really think she's enjoying your smelly breath and the scent of a 55 y.o. man's body? Men after 50 do have a different smell, somewhat sour.

Wtf is this? Not sure who you've dated. I'm currently dating a guy in his early 60s and he doesn't smell weird. He always smells fresh, is in good shape, hardly any grey and doesn't have saggy b@lls. And he's good in bed.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the old ladies dating the young studs, I have a question. Why don't I ever see you together with your boy toy at a restaurant or club, on a hiking or biking trail, on a boat, or at church? Why when I travel to Las Vegas, Miami, Honolulu or Paris do I only see older men with younger women, and not granny with her young Latin penis?

Because I take my kids on my vacations. I’m secure in myself, I don’t need to prove to the world I’m desirable to 20 year olds. Boy toys are just that - toys. Fun to play with, but my kids or my girlfriends are much better company and get all my vacation time.

The men who parade women as young as their daughters around are always neglectful parents who don’t spend any time with their kids because they’re too busy pretending to be a kid. I’m not like them.

And church? Really? How many old farts do you know who are taking 22 year olds to church?

So what's in it for the guys? How much do you have to pay them?

Sex.

But they can have sex with someone who is younger, prettier, and tighter who doesn't have kids at home.

I don't have kids. I hit my pretty peak at 42, I'm a personal trainer, and I'm definitely way better in bed than I was in my twenties and early thirties.

LMAO no you were NOT prettier at 42 than you were at 22. Sorry. It’s all downhill for all women after their early 20s, that’s inescapable biological fact.

it always amazed me how readily men pay for sex. Isn't it offensive and damaging to your own esteem to know that your 22 y.o. girlfriend is basically an expensive paid hooker? You wake up and look in the mirror and then jump into bed: do you really think she's enjoying your smelly breath and the scent of a 55 y.o. man's body? Men after 50 do have a different smell, somewhat sour.

Wtf is this? Not sure who you've dated. I'm currently dating a guy in his early 60s and he doesn't smell weird. He always smells fresh, is in good shape, hardly any grey and doesn't have saggy b@lls. And he's good in bed.

Good for you. I haven't dated many 60+ men but my own exH did start having a weird smell after 45 or so. My friend is also married to a guy who's 25 years older (now 70); she did mention the smell. There was a thread here about the specific scent older men (and women) get after certain age. I do know I smell differently at 45 vs 25.
What I don't get is why a 20 yo would be happy in bed with 55-60 y.o. These guys just didn't exist to me in my 20s as sexual objects! They looked older than my dad to me.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the old ladies dating the young studs, I have a question. Why don't I ever see you together with your boy toy at a restaurant or club, on a hiking or biking trail, on a boat, or at church? Why when I travel to Las Vegas, Miami, Honolulu or Paris do I only see older men with younger women, and not granny with her young Latin penis?

Because I take my kids on my vacations. I’m secure in myself, I don’t need to prove to the world I’m desirable to 20 year olds. Boy toys are just that - toys. Fun to play with, but my kids or my girlfriends are much better company and get all my vacation time.

The men who parade women as young as their daughters around are always neglectful parents who don’t spend any time with their kids because they’re too busy pretending to be a kid. I’m not like them.

And church? Really? How many old farts do you know who are taking 22 year olds to church?

So what's in it for the guys? How much do you have to pay them?

Sex.

But they can have sex with someone who is younger, prettier, and tighter who doesn't have kids at home.

I don't have kids. I hit my pretty peak at 42, I'm a personal trainer, and I'm definitely way better in bed than I was in my twenties and early thirties.

LMAO no you were NOT prettier at 42 than you were at 22. Sorry. It’s all downhill for all women after their early 20s, that’s inescapable biological fact.

it always amazed me how readily men pay for sex. Isn't it offensive and damaging to your own esteem to know that your 22 y.o. girlfriend is basically an expensive paid hooker? You wake up and look in the mirror and then jump into bed: do you really think she's enjoying your smelly breath and the scent of a 55 y.o. man's body? Men after 50 do have a different smell, somewhat sour.

One way or another, every man always pays for sex. Men who are "dating" and not "paying for escorts" - go ahead and track what you spend on dates and divide that by the number of sex acts and you will find the "cost per act" is comparable if not more than the cost for an escort. So, you could say, if you're gonna pay for sex anyway, you might as well pay for it with a young and pretty woman.

But that aside, as an older man who dates 20-something women, I can assure you that the men who are able to do that are not nasty and smelly. You have to be very sexworthy to date much younger women. She is not going to have sex with some smelly flabby dad-bod dude, because she doesn't have to. She's not even going to be around an older guy she doesn't enjoy being around, because, again, she doesn't have to. Women in their 20s have essentially unlimited sexual options. Duh. Therefore, having sex with 20-somethings does not damage my self esteem, it increases it, because it confirms that I am good enough to pull a much younger woman.

Cope and seethe all you like about how she "just wants your money" - the fact is, there are young women who actively prefer older men, though they tend to keep that secret because many other women try to shame them for it.

Wishful thinking on your part that 20 y.o. sleeping with you are driven by their desire of a sex with experienced man. There are 35y.. men for that (and I slept with such men in my 20s, which was cool). But a 50+ man is basically a grandfather for 20+ . These are seriously damaged or unpopular with peers girls that sleep with you.

And you are seriously damaged if you think that spending on dates is what you pay for dates. A good looking escort is $5,000 and over per hour. So you are actually "saving" a lot by your logic by dating vs just hired sex.

Anyway, you are one really trashy man upon reading your spreadsheet of dating expenses/sex acts. Hope I never cross my paths with someone like that!

Singed a 40 y.o. divorced woman with 250K income who can pay for her own coffee on dates.

Yeah yeah yeah, more coping and seething from bitter old women. "Only damaged young women would sleep with you!" I understand that's what you need to think to mask your raging jealousy of younger women, who are freely making their own choices.

I bet that despite your supposed high income, you still expect men to buy you dinner because reasons.

You are the epitome why women here write that middle age dating is trashy. Calculating the costs of sex acts depending on your investments in dinners is beyond trashy. Calling a 41 y.o. woman who is probably younger than you "old" is also pretty trashy, sexist and full of your own shit.
I feel sorry for those 20 y.o. students who are probably from some Eastern European countries and are hungry for your dinners in exchange for sex. And remember: 55 y.o. men stink regardless if they took shower or not, particular during sex.

Don't know any impoverished Eastern European women, wouldn't even know how to find one. I date UMC American women. They don't need my money, and they're not putting out for dinner. It's hilarious you think of this like I'm trolling through some slum in Brazil or the Philippines. You're mentally incapable of understanding that some younger women prefer older men, so such relationships in your mind have to be squalid and degrading. Sorry, you're wrong.

As for the "stink", just how many 55yo men have you had sex with that you know they all stink? Sounds like you're unable to attract a high quality non-stinky man. Too bad for you. Upgrade your own hygiene and physical appearance and you'll do better.

Too bad these UMC women don't know how much you value their sex vs escort. You literally go around with your cost analysis of dinners you offer them and the number of sex acts you got in exchange. That stinks. Yakee.

If you're too stupid to understand the point that men pay for sex even if they're not hiring escorts, that's on you. I do not literally track the costs of dating, but I know that the costs are not equal. Men invariably pay more. Are you really so dumb or delusional that you disagree with this?

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Anonymous wrote:To all the old ladies dating the young studs, I have a question. Why don't I ever see you together with your boy toy at a restaurant or club, on a hiking or biking trail, on a boat, or at church? Why when I travel to Las Vegas, Miami, Honolulu or Paris do I only see older men with younger women, and not granny with her young Latin penis?

Because I take my kids on my vacations. I’m secure in myself, I don’t need to prove to the world I’m desirable to 20 year olds. Boy toys are just that - toys. Fun to play with, but my kids or my girlfriends are much better company and get all my vacation time.

The men who parade women as young as their daughters around are always neglectful parents who don’t spend any time with their kids because they’re too busy pretending to be a kid. I’m not like them.

And church? Really? How many old farts do you know who are taking 22 year olds to church?

So what's in it for the guys? How much do you have to pay them?

Sex.

But they can have sex with someone who is younger, prettier, and tighter who doesn't have kids at home.

I don't have kids. I hit my pretty peak at 42, I'm a personal trainer, and I'm definitely way better in bed than I was in my twenties and early thirties.

LMAO no you were NOT prettier at 42 than you were at 22. Sorry. It’s all downhill for all women after their early 20s, that’s inescapable biological fact.

it always amazed me how readily men pay for sex. Isn't it offensive and damaging to your own esteem to know that your 22 y.o. girlfriend is basically an expensive paid hooker? You wake up and look in the mirror and then jump into bed: do you really think she's enjoying your smelly breath and the scent of a 55 y.o. man's body? Men after 50 do have a different smell, somewhat sour.

One way or another, every man always pays for sex. Men who are "dating" and not "paying for escorts" - go ahead and track what you spend on dates and divide that by the number of sex acts and you will find the "cost per act" is comparable if not more than the cost for an escort. So, you could say, if you're gonna pay for sex anyway, you might as well pay for it with a young and pretty woman.

But that aside, as an older man who dates 20-something women, I can assure you that the men who are able to do that are not nasty and smelly. You have to be very sexworthy to date much younger women. She is not going to have sex with some smelly flabby dad-bod dude, because she doesn't have to. She's not even going to be around an older guy she doesn't enjoy being around, because, again, she doesn't have to. Women in their 20s have essentially unlimited sexual options. Duh. Therefore, having sex with 20-somethings does not damage my self esteem, it increases it, because it confirms that I am good enough to pull a much younger woman.

Cope and seethe all you like about how she "just wants your money" - the fact is, there are young women who actively prefer older men, though they tend to keep that secret because many other women try to shame them for it.

Wishful thinking on your part that 20 y.o. sleeping with you are driven by their desire of a sex with experienced man. There are 35y.. men for that (and I slept with such men in my 20s, which was cool). But a 50+ man is basically a grandfather for 20+ . These are seriously damaged or unpopular with peers girls that sleep with you.

And you are seriously damaged if you think that spending on dates is what you pay for dates. A good looking escort is $5,000 and over per hour. So you are actually "saving" a lot by your logic by dating vs just hired sex.

Anyway, you are one really trashy man upon reading your spreadsheet of dating expenses/sex acts. Hope I never cross my paths with someone like that!

Singed a 40 y.o. divorced woman with 250K income who can pay for her own coffee on dates.

Yeah yeah yeah, more coping and seething from bitter old women. "Only damaged young women would sleep with you!" I understand that's what you need to think to mask your raging jealousy of younger women, who are freely making their own choices.

I bet that despite your supposed high income, you still expect men to buy you dinner because reasons.

You are the epitome why women here write that middle age dating is trashy. Calculating the costs of sex acts depending on your investments in dinners is beyond trashy. Calling a 41 y.o. woman who is probably younger than you "old" is also pretty trashy, sexist and full of your own shit.
I feel sorry for those 20 y.o. students who are probably from some Eastern European countries and are hungry for your dinners in exchange for sex. And remember: 55 y.o. men stink regardless if they took shower or not, particular during sex.

Don't know any impoverished Eastern European women, wouldn't even know how to find one. I date UMC American women. They don't need my money, and they're not putting out for dinner. It's hilarious you think of this like I'm trolling through some slum in Brazil or the Philippines. You're mentally incapable of understanding that some younger women prefer older men, so such relationships in your mind have to be squalid and degrading. Sorry, you're wrong.

As for the "stink", just how many 55yo men have you had sex with that you know they all stink? Sounds like you're unable to attract a high quality non-stinky man. Too bad for you. Upgrade your own hygiene and physical appearance and you'll do better.

Too bad these UMC women don't know how much you value their sex vs escort. You literally go around with your cost analysis of dinners you offer them and the number of sex acts you got in exchange. That stinks. Yakee.

If you're too stupid to understand the point that men pay for sex even if they're not hiring escorts, that's on you. I do not literally track the costs of dating, but I know that the costs are not equal. Men invariably pay more. Are you really so dumb or delusional that you disagree with this?

I absolutely disagree with a statement that "men pay more for sex". Women pay/sacrifice way more in their lives to have a family, sex, bear children as a result of this sex etc. That is leaving aside the facts of women earning less and that taking a good care of themselves cost more money for women. Going out on a date with hair styling, nice dress, nice shoes, updating your wardrobe, nails and hair cost way more than the dinners you pay for.

The concept of "man paying for sex" is a total stone age "caveman" approach and I totally get now why it pushes away mature self-sufficient women and limits your dating to 20something girls who dont' yet have clear boundaries against such disrespect

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Anonymous wrote:To all the old ladies dating the young studs, I have a question. Why don't I ever see you together with your boy toy at a restaurant or club, on a hiking or biking trail, on a boat, or at church? Why when I travel to Las Vegas, Miami, Honolulu or Paris do I only see older men with younger women, and not granny with her young Latin penis?

Because I take my kids on my vacations. I’m secure in myself, I don’t need to prove to the world I’m desirable to 20 year olds. Boy toys are just that - toys. Fun to play with, but my kids or my girlfriends are much better company and get all my vacation time.

The men who parade women as young as their daughters around are always neglectful parents who don’t spend any time with their kids because they’re too busy pretending to be a kid. I’m not like them.

And church? Really? How many old farts do you know who are taking 22 year olds to church?

So what's in it for the guys? How much do you have to pay them?

Sex.

But they can have sex with someone who is younger, prettier, and tighter who doesn't have kids at home.

I don't have kids. I hit my pretty peak at 42, I'm a personal trainer, and I'm definitely way better in bed than I was in my twenties and early thirties.

LMAO no you were NOT prettier at 42 than you were at 22. Sorry. It’s all downhill for all women after their early 20s, that’s inescapable biological fact.

it always amazed me how readily men pay for sex. Isn't it offensive and damaging to your own esteem to know that your 22 y.o. girlfriend is basically an expensive paid hooker? You wake up and look in the mirror and then jump into bed: do you really think she's enjoying your smelly breath and the scent of a 55 y.o. man's body? Men after 50 do have a different smell, somewhat sour.

One way or another, every man always pays for sex. Men who are "dating" and not "paying for escorts" - go ahead and track what you spend on dates and divide that by the number of sex acts and you will find the "cost per act" is comparable if not more than the cost for an escort. So, you could say, if you're gonna pay for sex anyway, you might as well pay for it with a young and pretty woman.

But that aside, as an older man who dates 20-something women, I can assure you that the men who are able to do that are not nasty and smelly. You have to be very sexworthy to date much younger women. She is not going to have sex with some smelly flabby dad-bod dude, because she doesn't have to. She's not even going to be around an older guy she doesn't enjoy being around, because, again, she doesn't have to. Women in their 20s have essentially unlimited sexual options. Duh. Therefore, having sex with 20-somethings does not damage my self esteem, it increases it, because it confirms that I am good enough to pull a much younger woman.

Cope and seethe all you like about how she "just wants your money" - the fact is, there are young women who actively prefer older men, though they tend to keep that secret because many other women try to shame them for it.

Wishful thinking on your part that 20 y.o. sleeping with you are driven by their desire of a sex with experienced man. There are 35y.. men for that (and I slept with such men in my 20s, which was cool). But a 50+ man is basically a grandfather for 20+ . These are seriously damaged or unpopular with peers girls that sleep with you.

And you are seriously damaged if you think that spending on dates is what you pay for dates. A good looking escort is $5,000 and over per hour. So you are actually "saving" a lot by your logic by dating vs just hired sex.

Anyway, you are one really trashy man upon reading your spreadsheet of dating expenses/sex acts. Hope I never cross my paths with someone like that!

Singed a 40 y.o. divorced woman with 250K income who can pay for her own coffee on dates.

Yeah yeah yeah, more coping and seething from bitter old women. "Only damaged young women would sleep with you!" I understand that's what you need to think to mask your raging jealousy of younger women, who are freely making their own choices.

I bet that despite your supposed high income, you still expect men to buy you dinner because reasons.

You are the epitome why women here write that middle age dating is trashy. Calculating the costs of sex acts depending on your investments in dinners is beyond trashy. Calling a 41 y.o. woman who is probably younger than you "old" is also pretty trashy, sexist and full of your own shit.
I feel sorry for those 20 y.o. students who are probably from some Eastern European countries and are hungry for your dinners in exchange for sex. And remember: 55 y.o. men stink regardless if they took shower or not, particular during sex.

Don't know any impoverished Eastern European women, wouldn't even know how to find one. I date UMC American women. They don't need my money, and they're not putting out for dinner. It's hilarious you think of this like I'm trolling through some slum in Brazil or the Philippines. You're mentally incapable of understanding that some younger women prefer older men, so such relationships in your mind have to be squalid and degrading. Sorry, you're wrong.

As for the "stink", just how many 55yo men have you had sex with that you know they all stink? Sounds like you're unable to attract a high quality non-stinky man. Too bad for you. Upgrade your own hygiene and physical appearance and you'll do better.

Too bad these UMC women don't know how much you value their sex vs escort. You literally go around with your cost analysis of dinners you offer them and the number of sex acts you got in exchange. That stinks. Yakee.

If you're too stupid to understand the point that men pay for sex even if they're not hiring escorts, that's on you. I do not literally track the costs of dating, but I know that the costs are not equal. Men invariably pay more. Are you really so dumb or delusional that you disagree with this?

I absolutely disagree with a statement that "men pay more for sex". Women pay/sacrifice way more in their lives to have a family, sex, bear children as a result of this sex etc. That is leaving aside the facts of women earning less and that taking a good care of themselves cost more money for women. Going out on a date with hair styling, nice dress, nice shoes, updating your wardrobe, nails and hair cost way more than the dinners you pay for.

The concept of "man paying for sex" is a total stone age "caveman" approach and I totally get now why it pushes away mature self-sufficient women and limits your dating to 20something girls who dont' yet have clear boundaries against such disrespect

And the most valuable for women is time, because their child bearing ability has about 20 years "expiration term". Time that anyone invests in education, search of a life partner, job search has its' alternate costs. For women who are less paid and have shorter timeframe to build their lives and give birth to next generation the cost of dating someone like you is insanely huge if it's measured in their lost time

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I think 90% of you should examine why you insist on dating if you have such a disdain for the other sex. I'm talking to both women and men making comments here. Just so angry and miserable.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 90% of you should examine why you insist on dating if you have such a disdain for the other sex. I'm talking to both women and men making comments here. Just so angry and miserable.

A man above is not dating, he's having random sexual encounters with students in exchange for nice dinners. I don't date as guys like this just terrify me

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Well this thread has sealed it for me. 55 year old widow contemplating dating again but nope! It’s over. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this thread has sealed it for me. 55 year old widow contemplating dating again but nope! It’s over. Thanks.

Dating widows is always a disaster.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 90% of you should examine why you insist on dating if you have such a disdain for the other sex. I'm talking to both women and men making comments here. Just so angry and miserable.

Why? Didn't you know that when a man is asking you on a date and pays for dinner, he's paying for your sex? LOL