Should FCPS Reassign New Affordable Housing from Marshall to Langley?

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

What about ES and MS? At least from the MS perspective, Cooper was recently renovated and expanded, whereas Kilmer has the math department out in a modular. Seems pretty clear where new west Tysons growth should be zoned from a capacity standpoint.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

What about ES and MS? At least from the MS perspective, Cooper was recently renovated and expanded, whereas Kilmer has the math department out in a modular. Seems pretty clear where new west Tysons growth should be zoned from a capacity standpoint.

Cooper will already be over capacity when it is done with the expansion. Cooper was over capacity for so long they had a modular there and the expansion will not be enough.

I don’t necessarily disagree that kids should be moved there, but you are acting like this is an easy decision and there aren’t other factors involved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

I care more about Marshall than Langley. Langley is the only HS school in the area with space and an adjacent boundary.

As for the ES/MS, Cooper has fewer kids and is less crowded than Kilmer. The ES might be a bit trickier. If the area was moved from Westbriar (Marshall pyramid) to Spring Hill (Langley pyramid) some other Spring Hill areas might need to be reassigned to Westgate (split feeder to Marshall/McLean).

Quite honestly, it's disgusting how some Langley folks constantly look for reasons to raise objections when they have a renovated, under-enrolled school and other schools are near or over capacity. But moving these developments could also allow Langley families who would like IB for their kids to send them to Marshall again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

What about ES and MS? At least from the MS perspective, Cooper was recently renovated and expanded, whereas Kilmer has the math department out in a modular. Seems pretty clear where new west Tysons growth should be zoned from a capacity standpoint.

Cooper will already be over capacity when it is done with the expansion. Cooper was over capacity for so long they had a modular there and the expansion will not be enough.

I don’t necessarily disagree that kids should be moved there, but you are acting like this is an easy decision and there aren’t other factors involved.

It's hard to believe Cooper can't be expanded to the size of other middle schools during its renovation, unless the expansion is intentionally capped to keep out the kids Langley doesn't want. Looking at the "big picture" would be to make sure that doesn't happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

I care more about Marshall than Langley. Langley is the only HS school in the area with space and an adjacent boundary.

As for the ES/MS, Cooper has fewer kids and is less crowded than Kilmer. The ES might be a bit trickier. If the area was moved from Westbriar (Marshall pyramid) to Spring Hill (Langley pyramid) some other Spring Hill areas might need to be reassigned to Westgate (split feeder to Marshall/McLean).

Quite honestly, it's disgusting how some Langley folks constantly look for reasons to raise objections when they have a renovated, under-enrolled school and other schools are near or over capacity. But moving these developments could also allow Langley families who would like IB for their kids to send them to Marshall again.

Marshall is under capacity and is not projected by FCPS to exceed capacity over the next 5 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

I care more about Marshall than Langley. Langley is the only HS school in the area with space and an adjacent boundary.

As for the ES/MS, Cooper has fewer kids and is less crowded than Kilmer. The ES might be a bit trickier. If the area was moved from Westbriar (Marshall pyramid) to Spring Hill (Langley pyramid) some other Spring Hill areas might need to be reassigned to Westgate (split feeder to Marshall/McLean).

Quite honestly, it's disgusting how some Langley folks constantly look for reasons to raise objections when they have a renovated, under-enrolled school and other schools are near or over capacity. But moving these developments could also allow Langley families who would like IB for their kids to send them to Marshall again.

Marshall is under capacity and is not projected by FCPS to exceed capacity over the next 5 years.

Marshall was overcrowded. GCM reduced its enrollment by halting transfers from other schools for IB, which defeats the purpose of multiple academic programs and pupil placement regulations. If you look at other FCPS information, the planned and approved developments in the Marshall district could add another 661 students to the school in the coming years (for Langley, the comparable number is only 11 students).

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/planning-future/development-review-and-proffer-processes

This should be an easy and obvious response to the continued development in Tysons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

I care more about Marshall than Langley. Langley is the only HS school in the area with space and an adjacent boundary.

As for the ES/MS, Cooper has fewer kids and is less crowded than Kilmer. The ES might be a bit trickier. If the area was moved from Westbriar (Marshall pyramid) to Spring Hill (Langley pyramid) some other Spring Hill areas might need to be reassigned to Westgate (split feeder to Marshall/McLean).

Quite honestly, it's disgusting how some Langley folks constantly look for reasons to raise objections when they have a renovated, under-enrolled school and other schools are near or over capacity. But moving these developments could also allow Langley families who would like IB for their kids to send them to Marshall again.

DP. There’s your strawman again. No one is objecting to any kids being assigned to Langley. The only thing Langley objected to was sending kids TO Herndon. But you sure are a dog with a bone, aren’t you? Take your obsession up with the SB instead of constantly bashing families who have nothing to do with who the SB assigns to Langley.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

I care more about Marshall than Langley. Langley is the only HS school in the area with space and an adjacent boundary.

As for the ES/MS, Cooper has fewer kids and is less crowded than Kilmer. The ES might be a bit trickier. If the area was moved from Westbriar (Marshall pyramid) to Spring Hill (Langley pyramid) some other Spring Hill areas might need to be reassigned to Westgate (split feeder to Marshall/McLean).

Quite honestly, it's disgusting how some Langley folks constantly look for reasons to raise objections when they have a renovated, under-enrolled school and other schools are near or over capacity. But moving these developments could also allow Langley families who would like IB for their kids to send them to Marshall again.

DP. There’s your strawman again. No one is objecting to any kids being assigned to Langley. The only thing Langley objected to was sending kids TO Herndon. But you sure are a dog with a bone, aren’t you? Take your obsession up with the SB instead of constantly bashing families who have nothing to do with who the SB assigns to Langley.

There are Langley posters on this thread doing just that. Try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

I care more about Marshall than Langley. Langley is the only HS school in the area with space and an adjacent boundary.

As for the ES/MS, Cooper has fewer kids and is less crowded than Kilmer. The ES might be a bit trickier. If the area was moved from Westbriar (Marshall pyramid) to Spring Hill (Langley pyramid) some other Spring Hill areas might need to be reassigned to Westgate (split feeder to Marshall/McLean).

Quite honestly, it's disgusting how some Langley folks constantly look for reasons to raise objections when they have a renovated, under-enrolled school and other schools are near or over capacity. But moving these developments could also allow Langley families who would like IB for their kids to send them to Marshall again.

DP. There’s your strawman again. No one is objecting to any kids being assigned to Langley. The only thing Langley objected to was sending kids TO Herndon. But you sure are a dog with a bone, aren’t you? Take your obsession up with the SB instead of constantly bashing families who have nothing to do with who the SB assigns to Langley.

Give me a break. The only reason Langley parents haven't formally objected to kids being assigned to Langley is because that has never actually been a serious option proposed by the school board (thank goodness, right?). And it is always objected to on here because they say "bussing" the poor kids from Herndon to Langley is inefficient and "removes them from their community."

If half of Herndon's low-income apartments were re-assigned to Langley you can be assured that Voices of Fairfax would be finding some way to spin a case against it. I mean, look at their website showing stock photos of real African kids in a classroom. Crocodile tears.

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

I care more about Marshall than Langley. Langley is the only HS school in the area with space and an adjacent boundary.

As for the ES/MS, Cooper has fewer kids and is less crowded than Kilmer. The ES might be a bit trickier. If the area was moved from Westbriar (Marshall pyramid) to Spring Hill (Langley pyramid) some other Spring Hill areas might need to be reassigned to Westgate (split feeder to Marshall/McLean).

Quite honestly, it's disgusting how some Langley folks constantly look for reasons to raise objections when they have a renovated, under-enrolled school and other schools are near or over capacity. But moving these developments could also allow Langley families who would like IB for their kids to send them to Marshall again.

DP. There’s your strawman again. No one is objecting to any kids being assigned to Langley. The only thing Langley objected to was sending kids TO Herndon. But you sure are a dog with a bone, aren’t you? Take your obsession up with the SB instead of constantly bashing families who have nothing to do with who the SB assigns to Langley.

Give me a break. The only reason Langley parents haven't formally objected to kids being assigned to Langley is because that has never actually been a serious option proposed by the school board (thank goodness, right?). And it is always objected to on here because they say "bussing" the poor kids from Herndon to Langley is inefficient and "removes them from their community."

If half of Herndon's low-income apartments were re-assigned to Langley you can be assured that Voices of Fairfax would be finding some way to spin a case against it. I mean, look at their website showing stock photos of real African kids in a classroom. Crocodile tears.

+1,000,000. If someone on the School Board does propose to reassign these new affordable housing buildings in Tysons from Marshall to Langley - and this should be considered soon, before the buildings are completed - they'll come out with knives drawn as always.

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

What about ES and MS? At least from the MS perspective, Cooper was recently renovated and expanded, whereas Kilmer has the math department out in a modular. Seems pretty clear where new west Tysons growth should be zoned from a capacity standpoint.

Cooper will already be over capacity when it is done with the expansion. Cooper was over capacity for so long they had a modular there and the expansion will not be enough.

I don’t necessarily disagree that kids should be moved there, but you are acting like this is an easy decision and there aren’t other factors involved.

It's hard to believe Cooper can't be expanded to the size of other middle schools during its renovation, unless the expansion is intentionally capped to keep out the kids Langley doesn't want. Looking at the "big picture" would be to make sure that doesn't happen.

Cooper parent here. My kid spends half his time in a trailer. I have gone on a tour and been on some zoom pta calls and when they go through the renovation, it doesn’t sound like a huge amount of expansion. I could be wrong. All I know is my kid spends a lot of time in trailers.

I believe Longfellow was expanded but McLean high has not been renovated and is severely overcrowded. I don’t think Cooper is being expanded as much as it can be.

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

What about ES and MS? At least from the MS perspective, Cooper was recently renovated and expanded, whereas Kilmer has the math department out in a modular. Seems pretty clear where new west Tysons growth should be zoned from a capacity standpoint.

Cooper will already be over capacity when it is done with the expansion. Cooper was over capacity for so long they had a modular there and the expansion will not be enough.

I don’t necessarily disagree that kids should be moved there, but you are acting like this is an easy decision and there aren’t other factors involved.

It's hard to believe Cooper can't be expanded to the size of other middle schools during its renovation, unless the expansion is intentionally capped to keep out the kids Langley doesn't want. Looking at the "big picture" would be to make sure that doesn't happen.

Cooper parent here. My kid spends half his time in a trailer. I have gone on a tour and been on some zoom pta calls and when they go through the renovation, it doesn’t sound like a huge amount of expansion. I could be wrong. All I know is my kid spends a lot of time in trailers.

I believe Longfellow was expanded but McLean high has not been renovated and is severely overcrowded. I don’t think Cooper is being expanded as much as it can be.

Most schools have trailers when they are being renovated and expanded like Cooper.

The issue here is whether kids in the new developments in Tysons currently within the Westbriar/Kilmer/Marshall boundary will be in temporary classrooms at Kilmer or Marshall or potentially push Cooper and/or Langley to near full capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:All the new housing getting built in Tysons currently feeds into Marshall and McLean.

Marshall's enrollment is up 38 kids since the school year began. McLean is up 27 kids. Langley's enrollment hasn't increased at all from September 2021 to April 2022.

If they don't reassign this new housing project off Spring Hill Road to under-enrolled Langley, Jason Miyares should open an investigation into the School Board's neglect of duty.

If nothing happened when millions were spent expanded West Potomac even though Mt. Vernon had space, I doubt the Langley boundary will warrant much attention.

Besides, 46 has promise us food shortages and inflation shows no sign of stopping. I’ll bet that the percentage of Langley-boundaried children that goes to private school decreases next year and the year after. A bad economy is great for public school enrollment.

I doubt the private school enrollment decreases, but I doubt the school board will be too interested in dealing with anymore boundary adjustments in that area for a while. Your example of west Potomac was spot on.

You could argue it’s an opportunity for the SB members to try and redeem themselves. Of course, it may be too late for some, given how little support they have left.

Picking boundary fights may "redeem" SB members in the eyes of a select few, but politically-speaking its the easiest way to lose an election. The fact of the matter is that most people could not care less about boundaries until and unless it directly impacts them. Boundary fights will almost always lose you more votes than they gain.

That might be the case if you're talking about reassigning kids from an existing development to a new, lower-ranked school.

There is little downside from reassigning some apartments from Marshall to Langley, especially when most of the apartments will be new construction where kids never attended Marshall. On the other hand, it might indicate that the School Board isn't completely full of crap when it talks about equity all the time but leaves Langley renovated, under capacity, and without any lower or moderate-income housing. That might stem some of the losses they are looking at next year. There are already going to be quite a few voters who usually vote Democratic breaking ranks next year for reasons unrelated to boundaries.

You are not thinking about the big picture. You for some reason just care about Langley. What about elementary and middle schools?

I care more about Marshall than Langley. Langley is the only HS school in the area with space and an adjacent boundary.

As for the ES/MS, Cooper has fewer kids and is less crowded than Kilmer. The ES might be a bit trickier. If the area was moved from Westbriar (Marshall pyramid) to Spring Hill (Langley pyramid) some other Spring Hill areas might need to be reassigned to Westgate (split feeder to Marshall/McLean).

Quite honestly, it's disgusting how some Langley folks constantly look for reasons to raise objections when they have a renovated, under-enrolled school and other schools are near or over capacity. But moving these developments could also allow Langley families who would like IB for their kids to send them to Marshall again.

Marshall is under capacity and is not projected by FCPS to exceed capacity over the next 5 years.

Marshall was overcrowded. GCM reduced its enrollment by halting transfers from other schools for IB, which defeats the purpose of multiple academic programs and pupil placement regulations. If you look at other FCPS information, the planned and approved developments in the Marshall district could add another 661 students to the school in the coming years (for Langley, the comparable number is only 11 students).

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/planning-future/development-review-and-proffer-processes

This should be an easy and obvious response to the continued development in Tysons.

The FCPS utilization projections take into account planned development. So even accounting for all that development, Marshall is still projected to be below capacity 5 years out.

I couldn’t care less about the boundaries. I’m not a Langley parent. The “I care more about Marshall” argument fails in light of the data (unless your real concern is the same one that you are projecting to Langley … you don’t want more FARMS students at Marshall). From a capacity standpoint, there is no projected overcrowding issue at Marshall.

For IB, there are many other FCPS high schools that offer the program, so not sure why it’s really relevant that Marshall was closed to IB transfers. If you live out of boundary, that’s a risk you take.