Please suggest a kind and gentle school

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Yes, there were 4 or 5 suicides that year in 2014-2015, which is terrible as I mentioned above. But the expected rate of suicides based on averages for their age group would be 7.

How did you come up with 7 ???!!!

W&M has fewer than 10,000 students total. The suicide rate for that age group is about 14 per 100,000 per year, which would put the expected number of suicides for a college of even 10,000 at 1.4 for an entire calendar year. But an academic year is less than 9 months, or 3/4 of a year. So, you might expect 1 suicide in an academic year, not 4 or 5. That number in a college that size in one academic year is very high.

Any suicide is terrible, but that was one year, and you picked a peak year with an unfortunate cluster of 4 suicides. From 1968 through 2014, though, there were 17 suicides recorded in 46 years, or .37 per year. That translates to about 6.7 suicides per 100,000 per year, which is well below the average suicide rate you cited for college age students (14 per 100K).

I didn’t pick the year. It was brought up earlier in the thread by someone else earlier in the thread. I was simply responding to the poster who tried to minimize that number of suicides as lower than would be expected. It’s not low but just the opposite.

Thanks fir the additional information which shows that year to have been an anomaly and not part of any long term trend.

DP. I didn't pick the year, either, but the school is notoriously difficult, as is Cornell, and anyone who knows anything about Higher Ed knows hese schools have higher than average suicide rates. OP wants a "kind and gentle school". What idiot woudl recommend W&M? It's almost impossible to get into and extremely competitive.

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Yes, there were 4 or 5 suicides that year in 2014-2015, which is terrible as I mentioned above. But the expected rate of suicides based on averages for their age group would be 7.

How did you come up with 7 ???!!!

W&M has fewer than 10,000 students total. The suicide rate for that age group is about 14 per 100,000 per year, which would put the expected number of suicides for a college of even 10,000 at 1.4 for an entire calendar year. But an academic year is less than 9 months, or 3/4 of a year. So, you might expect 1 suicide in an academic year, not 4 or 5. That number in a college that size in one academic year is very high.

Any suicide is terrible, but that was one year, and you picked a peak year with an unfortunate cluster of 4 suicides. From 1968 through 2014, though, there were 17 suicides recorded in 46 years, or .37 per year. That translates to about 6.7 suicides per 100,000 per year, which is well below the average suicide rate you cited for college age students (14 per 100K).

I didn’t pick the year. It was brought up earlier in the thread by someone else earlier in the thread. I was simply responding to the poster who tried to minimize that number of suicides as lower than would be expected. It’s not low but just the opposite.

Thanks fir the additional information which shows that year to have been an anomaly and not part of any long term trend.

DP. I didn't pick the year, either, but the school is notoriously difficult, as is Cornell, and anyone who knows anything about Higher Ed knows hese schools have higher than average suicide rates. OP wants a "kind and gentle school". What idiot woudl recommend W&M? It's almost impossible to get into and extremely competitive.

But they don't. W&M has half the expected suicide rate would you expect based on averages for college aged students.

[Anonymous]

Are we far enough off topic yet?

[Anonymous]

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Yes, there were 4 or 5 suicides that year in 2014-2015, which is terrible as I mentioned above. But the expected rate of suicides based on averages for their age group would be 7.

How did you come up with 7 ???!!!

W&M has fewer than 10,000 students total. The suicide rate for that age group is about 14 per 100,000 per year, which would put the expected number of suicides for a college of even 10,000 at 1.4 for an entire calendar year. But an academic year is less than 9 months, or 3/4 of a year. So, you might expect 1 suicide in an academic year, not 4 or 5. That number in a college that size in one academic year is very high.

Any suicide is terrible, but that was one year, and you picked a peak year with an unfortunate cluster of 4 suicides. From 1968 through 2014, though, there were 17 suicides recorded in 46 years, or .37 per year. That translates to about 6.7 suicides per 100,000 per year, which is well below the average suicide rate you cited for college age students (14 per 100K).

I didn’t pick the year. It was brought up earlier in the thread by someone else earlier in the thread. I was simply responding to the poster who tried to minimize that number of suicides as lower than would be expected. It’s not low but just the opposite.

Thanks fir the additional information which shows that year to have been an anomaly and not part of any long term trend.

DP. I didn't pick the year, either, but the school is notoriously difficult, as is Cornell, and anyone who knows anything about Higher Ed knows hese schools have higher than average suicide rates. OP wants a "kind and gentle school". What idiot woudl recommend W&M? It's almost impossible to get into and extremely competitive.

But they don't. W&M has half the expected suicide rate would you expect based on averages for college aged students.

No, it doesn't. It's not reported as stated above. It's a demanding school. OP wants "kind and gentle" that's a nice slac in a quiet area, not W&M, UVA, Ivies, huge schools, etc. Try to be helpful and not fight over trivialities.

[Anonymous]

I guess we’re not far enough off topic yet. Let’s keep pushing the limits. I’m sure it’s helpful to the OP to contemplate whether or not their kid will off himself. Keep it going. . .

[Anonymous]

OP thank you for this thread. I'd love to hear more. I have a DC who is extremely bright and high performing but also has anxiety and ADHD and I'm concerned about their ability to handle going to the kind of schools they are thinking about (more elite LACs) based on academic talent when their emotional state can be pretty fragile. There are many times over the past year I've thought to myself how is this kid going to handle being away at school and the answer is I don't know and it really worries me. I'm also considering having them do a gap year to push off college and have the change to grow/mature a bit more. Not sure what the best answer is.

[Anonymous]

Erlham

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP thank you for this thread. I'd love to hear more. I have a DC who is extremely bright and high performing but also has anxiety and ADHD and I'm concerned about their ability to handle going to the kind of schools they are thinking about (more elite LACs) based on academic talent when their emotional state can be pretty fragile. There are many times over the past year I've thought to myself how is this kid going to handle being away at school and the answer is I don't know and it really worries me. I'm also considering having them do a gap year to push off college and have the change to grow/mature a bit more. Not sure what the best answer is.

We’re in the same boat - DC has the stats to get into some highly selective LACs, but I’m unsure if they will be able to handle a high intensity place away from home. Check out the CTCL schools https://ctcl.org/ which have more systems in place to engage students throughout their four years in experiential learning. When we toured a couple of these school, my DC really liked the vibe. Tour some of these schools and see how your DC feels at each. I would rather my DC flourish at a CTCL school than flounder at a highly selective school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Erlham

+1 for Earlham

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U of Nevada @Reno.

My niece loved her experience here. She's a kind and gentle person. Is now an ICU nurse.

[Anonymous]

I have heard good things about Haverford.

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Notre Dame

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Try a not very competitive SLAC OP. There are plenty of them out there.

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Sewanee

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Anonymous wrote:Not being snarky. This is an honest inquiry. I've seen similar posts where parents use words like kind, gentle, nurturing, etc to describe attributes for a college. Does this continue until adulthood? Kind and gentle graduate school, employer, landlord? No need to be defensive. Just wondering when you "release the reins"?

I mean, I work for a kind employer - mostly gentle - and it is a huge attribute to me at 44...