Brunch Granny! Please do an AMA.
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Anonymous
Not PP and I’m pro peoole waiting to marry and have kids but any curretage will increase your odds of placenta previa slightly. Not as much as a c-section will, though. I don’t think it increases your risk for much of anything else. |
Anonymous
NP. I sort of forgot about that. Maybe the PPP isn’t crazy. Of course the abortion pill won’t do that, though, nor will a miscarriage that doesn’t involve a D and C. |
Anonymous
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- That’s about age of marriage and divorce rates when you cohabitate, not age of having kids and how happy kids make you - I had no idea there is such a thing as “The National Marriage Project.” You learn a new thing every day. |
Anonymous
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I'm afraid I missed the anti-brunch rant in there. Could you quote that specific part? TIA |
Anonymous
Is there someone in the thread who thinks curettage is the only means of abortion, or was anti-brunch granny just being sloppy in the reasoning process? |
Anonymous
Granny said brunch is full of 20- and 30-something women both single and those “shacking up” with men i.e. living together without proposal or wedding. Granny said these women and men are old enough to be married and having children and should not be wasting weekends away getting drunk at breakfast. Dozens of comments attacked granny, insisting that waiting until “financially secure” 30s for marriage and kids was more mature and responsible and led to happier marriages. The research in The Journal indicates granny is spot on. |
Anonymous
I give it some benefit of doubt. I think it's not 100% ideology but a holdover from the times when abortions were really more dangerous and/or fertility was less understood. I did not grow up in US, so different laws, but in my mom's generation pretty much everyone knew a woman who couldn't have children supposedly because of an abortion. |
Anonymous
Way to skip this last part: Is it less experience breaking up, fewer previous partners for comparison, a greater sense that marriage is a different relationship status, or the fact that such women are disproportionately religious? |
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From the WSJ article:
For the approximately 70% of women in our sample who cohabited with one or more partners prior to marriage, the conventional wisdom held. For them, waiting until around 30 was linked to a lower risk of divorce. From the linked IFS article: Surprisingly, religious 20-somethings who marry directly without cohabiting appear to have the lowest divorce rates. So, if you're a religious woman, getting married without living together first is your best strategy for not getting divorced. For others, waiting is better. This article is coming from the religious Institute for Family Studies, so, not surprising. |
Anonymous
Shocking!!! those who follow the SATC model wind up being lonely spinsters?!?!? Who knew? |
Anonymous
| The notion that waiting to marry and have children makes you more financial secure and leads to more promotions at work is pure fiction. Dual incomes allow you to buy a home, and more home at that, much sooner. A married 28 y/o couple over the last few years has watched their house explode in value. While unwed yuppies flush money down the drain on rent. Most young adults mature very quickly when the first kid arrives; waiting stunts that maturation. And most employers reward married with kids colleagues, as it signals you’re stable and trustworthy, and married with kids (and grandkids) elder bosses connect with you. The unmarried and childless just seem flighty, aimless and frankly weird. |
Anonymous
Yes, you can get ahead financially with a two-income home, but that goes right out the window once you have kids. Usually a huge chunk of one earner's paycheck has to go toward daycare, or the person drops out of the workforce to care for children. This disproportionately affects women, who wind up with less education, fewer career options, and lifetime earnings much less than their spouses. Since the entire premise of the Granny's rantings is for women to marry young and have more than 1-2 children, she is unquestionably advocating for women to remain at an economic and educational disadvantage to their husbands. |
Anonymous
You forgot the best part: Granny is in her 40’s |
Anonymous
There have been studies and you're basically guaranteed middle class status if you: graduate high school, wait until you're married to have kids. I absolutely would not have been able to afford a home if I had kids first. Daycare is 2k a month PER KID. |
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I would invite you to think for a moment: why might it be that the same people getting married very young are also not divorcing. Give me some explanations, and try to think beyond your personal biases. |