ACPS now closed for the entire thanksgiving week

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL someone had the thread joking about Virginia hospitals being shut down Thanksgiving week deleted. Guess they didn’t like that point being made!

Healthcare workers have been more stressed than anyone these past 2 years. They deserve that week off. Who cares if that means they have to close the hospitals for a few days 😉

Agreed. Being a healthcare worker is just a job — nothing more, nothing less. I deserve time off any time I want it. Who cares if my hospital is understaffed? Saving lives isn’t a calling. It’s just a job.

I hate that people have pitted teachers and healthcare workers against each other over the last 2 years. The reality is that working conditions are terrible for both groups. It's a top down problem. Schools and hospitals should probably have double the staff to ensure everyone is safe and able to do their job well. Sowing discord, especially anti-union sentiment, makes it much harder for people to get employees what they need. I think there will be a ripple effect for many years with people not thinking twice about entering either profession. I know it's already happening in education.

Nope. Can’t compare the two fields. Healthcare workers (and grocery workers, sanitation workers, firefighters, etc) behaved entirely different than teachers did during the pandemic. We all took our jobs seriously while teachers stayed home.

Oh please. You've been saying this since last year. Some teachers were back in the buildings with students last Fall before anyone was vaccinated. Also, grocery stores, healthcare, and sanitation industries are also facing huge issues with staffing right now, especially with the lower paid workers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL someone had the thread joking about Virginia hospitals being shut down Thanksgiving week deleted. Guess they didn’t like that point being made!

Healthcare workers have been more stressed than anyone these past 2 years. They deserve that week off. Who cares if that means they have to close the hospitals for a few days 😉

Agreed. Being a healthcare worker is just a job — nothing more, nothing less. I deserve time off any time I want it. Who cares if my hospital is understaffed? Saving lives isn’t a calling. It’s just a job.

I hate that people have pitted teachers and healthcare workers against each other over the last 2 years. The reality is that working conditions are terrible for both groups. It's a top down problem. Schools and hospitals should probably have double the staff to ensure everyone is safe and able to do their job well. Sowing discord, especially anti-union sentiment, makes it much harder for people to get employees what they need. I think there will be a ripple effect for many years with people not thinking twice about entering either profession. I know it's already happening in education.

Nope. Can’t compare the two fields. Healthcare workers (and grocery workers, sanitation workers, firefighters, etc) behaved entirely different than teachers did during the pandemic. We all took our jobs seriously while teachers stayed home.

Oh not you again. Please. You know who was back in school buildings as soon as they let us? Teachers . I was back in with kids end of January of 2021. Have been ever since. You know who is still at home? Feds.

Not true. My husband is a fed employee. He was back in the office before teachers were.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL someone had the thread joking about Virginia hospitals being shut down Thanksgiving week deleted. Guess they didn’t like that point being made!

Healthcare workers have been more stressed than anyone these past 2 years. They deserve that week off. Who cares if that means they have to close the hospitals for a few days 😉

Agreed. Being a healthcare worker is just a job — nothing more, nothing less. I deserve time off any time I want it. Who cares if my hospital is understaffed? Saving lives isn’t a calling. It’s just a job.

I hate that people have pitted teachers and healthcare workers against each other over the last 2 years. The reality is that working conditions are terrible for both groups. It's a top down problem. Schools and hospitals should probably have double the staff to ensure everyone is safe and able to do their job well. Sowing discord, especially anti-union sentiment, makes it much harder for people to get employees what they need. I think there will be a ripple effect for many years with people not thinking twice about entering either profession. I know it's already happening in education.

Nope. Can’t compare the two fields. Healthcare workers (and grocery workers, sanitation workers, firefighters, etc) behaved entirely different than teachers did during the pandemic. We all took our jobs seriously while teachers stayed home.

Oh please. You've been saying this since last year. Some teachers were back in the buildings with students last Fall before anyone was vaccinated. Also, grocery stores, healthcare, and sanitation industries are also facing huge issues with staffing right now, especially with the lower paid workers.

I have yet to see my local grocery store shut down for an entire week because they all decided to take time off at the same time. That type of nonsense is reserved for teachers I guess.

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Teachers are snowflakes. And cowrds. This surprises no one.

And my DH is a fed that never left the office. Some of us are big boys that get the job done no matter the situation.

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I truly don’t think it was done because teachers were going to take leave - why do you have to insist on that narrative

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL someone had the thread joking about Virginia hospitals being shut down Thanksgiving week deleted. Guess they didn’t like that point being made!

Healthcare workers have been more stressed than anyone these past 2 years. They deserve that week off. Who cares if that means they have to close the hospitals for a few days 😉

Agreed. Being a healthcare worker is just a job — nothing more, nothing less. I deserve time off any time I want it. Who cares if my hospital is understaffed? Saving lives isn’t a calling. It’s just a job.

I hate that people have pitted teachers and healthcare workers against each other over the last 2 years. The reality is that working conditions are terrible for both groups. It's a top down problem. Schools and hospitals should probably have double the staff to ensure everyone is safe and able to do their job well. Sowing discord, especially anti-union sentiment, makes it much harder for people to get employees what they need. I think there will be a ripple effect for many years with people not thinking twice about entering either profession. I know it's already happening in education.

Nope. Can’t compare the two fields. Healthcare workers (and grocery workers, sanitation workers, firefighters, etc) behaved entirely different than teachers did during the pandemic. We all took our jobs seriously while teachers stayed home.

Oh not you again. Please. You know who was back in school buildings as soon as they let us? Teachers . I was back in with kids end of January of 2021. Have been ever since. You know who is still at home? Feds.

Not true. My husband is a fed employee. He was back in the office before teachers were.

And yet there’s feds in the fashion forum asking what to wear when they HOPEFULLY go back in 2022.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are snowflakes. And cowrds. This surprises no one.

And my DH is a fed that never left the office. Some of us are big boys that get the job done no matter the situation.

“Some of us” - mentions husband, not self

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Last year during spring break when vaccinated teachers were told they couldn’t travel, there were messages about no traveling and then multiple messages to let principal know if you were traveling and then they made the announcement that the week after spring break would be virtual. Nothing like that has happened this year - I believe it’s truly a concern for mental health and burnout.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a teacher but I think teachers esp in the NOVA ACPS community and APS have it good. You signed up for a teaching job - the profession is about working with kids - whether the kids/families are easy or hard to teach - your job is to teach them. You do the best you can just like in any other job, people do as well. You get every summer off. 2 weeks over holidays. Spring Break - check. Every federal holiday off. You get teacher appreciation days. You get many times, gifts from families that really appreciate what you do. There are a lot of jobs that pay the same or lower where you do not. get. days. off. You do not. get. appreciation. at. all. You do not get the satisfaction of what you signed up to do and that is to know you were impacting the life of a kid. Whether you feel personally it's a career you want to stick with or not, to complain that teachers have it oh so bad to me is a joke. Do your job and stop complaining. I know a lot of people who are in worse career professions who would get blasted if they complain and whine as much as any NOVA teacher on this forum did.

Or quit. Oh, wait.

I chose my profession because I like kids, but also, for the benefits, including vacation and three days of personal leave we get each year. I’m sorry, but I’m allowed to take them. I feel absolutely zero, zero, zero guilt about that. I put in tremendous hours, and other than these benefits, the district basically owns me during the school year, as the job is impossible to complete during contact hours. I get very annoyed about the comparison to health care. You signed up for that. I signed up for this. I could’ve been a doctor or a nurse, but I wanted to do this. I knew it would be the best thing for my family. I work my ass off, and if I want to use the three days I’m allowed, I will. There are no subs. That’s the problem. We have it so damn good, but no one wants to do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LOL someone had the thread joking about Virginia hospitals being shut down Thanksgiving week deleted. Guess they didn’t like that point being made!

Healthcare workers have been more stressed than anyone these past 2 years. They deserve that week off. Who cares if that means they have to close the hospitals for a few days 😉

Agreed. Being a healthcare worker is just a job — nothing more, nothing less. I deserve time off any time I want it. Who cares if my hospital is understaffed? Saving lives isn’t a calling. It’s just a job.

I hate that people have pitted teachers and healthcare workers against each other over the last 2 years. The reality is that working conditions are terrible for both groups. It's a top down problem. Schools and hospitals should probably have double the staff to ensure everyone is safe and able to do their job well. Sowing discord, especially anti-union sentiment, makes it much harder for people to get employees what they need. I think there will be a ripple effect for many years with people not thinking twice about entering either profession. I know it's already happening in education.

Nope. Can’t compare the two fields. Healthcare workers (and grocery workers, sanitation workers, firefighters, etc) behaved entirely different than teachers did during the pandemic. We all took our jobs seriously while teachers stayed home.

Oh not you again. Please. You know who was back in school buildings as soon as they let us? Teachers . I was back in with kids end of January of 2021. Have been ever since. You know who is still at home? Feds.

Not true. My husband is a fed employee. He was back in the office before teachers were.

And yet there’s feds in the fashion forum asking what to wear when they HOPEFULLY go back in 2022.

And some have always worked from home. What’s your point?

Teaching in public schools has never been a WFH position. Many districts throughout the country went back in-person WAY before NOVA schools did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are snowflakes. And cowrds. This surprises no one.

And my DH is a fed that never left the office. Some of us are big boys that get the job done no matter the situation.

“Some of us” - mentions husband, not self

Plenty of feds still in my neighborhood still not back in the office yet, working from home, exercising around the neighborhood, and complaining that their kids might be around. Your “big boy” is an exception, not the rule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a teacher but I think teachers esp in the NOVA ACPS community and APS have it good. You signed up for a teaching job - the profession is about working with kids - whether the kids/families are easy or hard to teach - your job is to teach them. You do the best you can just like in any other job, people do as well. You get every summer off. 2 weeks over holidays. Spring Break - check. Every federal holiday off. You get teacher appreciation days. You get many times, gifts from families that really appreciate what you do. There are a lot of jobs that pay the same or lower where you do not. get. days. off. You do not. get. appreciation. at. all. You do not get the satisfaction of what you signed up to do and that is to know you were impacting the life of a kid. Whether you feel personally it's a career you want to stick with or not, to complain that teachers have it oh so bad to me is a joke. Do your job and stop complaining. I know a lot of people who are in worse career professions who would get blasted if they complain and whine as much as any NOVA teacher on this forum did.

Or quit. Oh, wait.

I chose my profession because I like kids, but also, for the benefits, including vacation and three days of personal leave we get each year. I’m sorry, but I’m allowed to take them. I feel absolutely zero, zero, zero guilt about that. I put in tremendous hours, and other than these benefits, the district basically owns me during the school year, as the job is impossible to complete during contact hours. I get very annoyed about the comparison to health care. You signed up for that. I signed up for this. I could’ve been a doctor or a nurse, but I wanted to do this. I knew it would be the best thing for my family. I work my ass off, and if I want to use the three days I’m allowed, I will. There are no subs. That’s the problem. We have it so damn good, but no one wants to do it.

No one, literally no one, is saying teachers shouldn’t be able to use their personal days. But COME ON. In what other field can everyone take their days at the same time? In ALL OTHER FIELDS, employees put in their requests and their days are only granted if there is enough coverage. Leave is staggered. They don’t shut down for a week because everyone is off at once. Can you imagine if a hospital or grocery store allowed this nonsense?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are snowflakes. And cowrds. This surprises no one.

And my DH is a fed that never left the office. Some of us are big boys that get the job done no matter the situation.

“Some of us” - mentions husband, not self

Plenty of feds still in my neighborhood still not back in the office yet, working from home, exercising around the neighborhood, and complaining that their kids might be around. Your “big boy” is an exception, not the rule.

And all last year my teacher neighbor was at the park with her toddler on Mondays. Not sure how much planning she accomplished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers are snowflakes. And cowrds. This surprises no one.

And my DH is a fed that never left the office. Some of us are big boys that get the job done no matter the situation.

“Some of us” - mentions husband, not self

Plenty of feds still in my neighborhood still not back in the office yet, working from home, exercising around the neighborhood, and complaining that their kids might be around. Your “big boy” is an exception, not the rule.

Plenty of feds, unlike public school teachers, can effectively do their jobs from home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank your friends that went private. They screwed you. The districts get paid by the pupil from the state, and every one lost to private means less money. Bigger class sizes. Having to do more with less.

Eventually maybe, but not this year, maybe not next. The state isn't reducing funding based on per pupil yet - they're keeping it at 2019 levels. And the Feds are shoveling CARES and Recovery funding at the schools. It really shouldn't be a "do more with less" - there's substantially more funding available than ever before, and yet...