LCPS sexual assualt - who is held accountable?

[Anonymous]

Washington Post confirms almost all the details from the Daily Wire story, including that it was the same student.

They even got an interview with Biberaj but didn’t ask her about her decision to prosecute the father of one of the victims…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not understand this at all. What does this have to do with protecting transgender rights? Can we get some FACTS here? My questions:

1) the statement from LCPS today says the first assault was reported to the sheriff’s office the day it happened. They are under obligation to avoid any investigation of the incident until AFTER law enforcement concludes their investigation, right?

2) Are people asserting the the Board is informed of all disciplinary cases in schools or all crimes in schools? At what point is a board member informed? Would a school be in violation of Title IX by transferring an accused assaulted or expelling him/her before a school investigation could occur?

(For those getting political, remember that it was the Besty DeVos Dept of Ed that swung the pendulum back to the rights of accused rapists to avoid any consequences at school until AFTEr an assault had been proven through a legal process. If lane enforcement says that the school can’t investigate until they are done investigating, what authority does the school have to suspend or expel a student?

It seems to me that law enforcement dropped the ball here, not LCPS. How can people hold the Board responsible when they weren’t even allowed to be notified until after law enforcement concluded their investigation?

If the student had been arrested for violent assault, that student would NOT be in classes the next day. There IS juvenile debate too still, despite the uninformed political agitators here claiming there is only “restorative justice.” I have a friend who taught for years at the Fairfax County juvenile detention center.

So…the question is not really anything about elevated school hoard members, but rather why didn’t law enforcement arrest this student after the first reported assault?

The issue of gender fluidity or whatever seems like a total red herring, as the student assaulted someone else in a CLASSROOM. This has nothing to do with transgender rights. Rapists can find victims in school building in lots of places.

1st assault victim was in a girls bathroom. Absolutely the board and supervisor would have been made aware of violent attack on student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not understand this at all. What does this have to do with protecting transgender rights? Can we get some FACTS here? My questions:

1) the statement from LCPS today says the first assault was reported to the sheriff’s office the day it happened. They are under obligation to avoid any investigation of the incident until AFTER law enforcement concludes their investigation, right?

2) Are people asserting the the Board is informed of all disciplinary cases in schools or all crimes in schools? At what point is a board member informed? Would a school be in violation of Title IX by transferring an accused assaulted or expelling him/her before a school investigation could occur?

(For those getting political, remember that it was the Besty DeVos Dept of Ed that swung the pendulum back to the rights of accused rapists to avoid any consequences at school until AFTEr an assault had been proven through a legal process. If lane enforcement says that the school can’t investigate until they are done investigating, what authority does the school have to suspend or expel a student?

It seems to me that law enforcement dropped the ball here, not LCPS. How can people hold the Board responsible when they weren’t even allowed to be notified until after law enforcement concluded their investigation?

If the student had been arrested for violent assault, that student would NOT be in classes the next day. There IS juvenile debate too still, despite the uninformed political agitators here claiming there is only “restorative justice.” I have a friend who taught for years at the Fairfax County juvenile detention center.

So…the question is not really anything about elevated school hoard members, but rather why didn’t law enforcement arrest this student after the first reported assault?

The issue of gender fluidity or whatever seems like a total red herring, as the student assaulted someone else in a CLASSROOM. This has nothing to do with transgender rights. Rapists can find victims in school building in lots of places.

I think that he WAS arrested but he was placed one electronic monitoring. I do imagine there are a number of kids that are arrested and attend school while awaiting trial.

I guess my main question is what is the policy on expulsion. It seems like the board has to vote on this (for long term/permanent bans) and they are required to hold hearings and follow due process (provide notice and appeals rights). Does Loudon even allow for permanent bans (not all districts/states do)? Or do they have to provide alternative schools or options for students? Were there hands tied in removing the kid completely because of the police investigation? In sum, did they follow the current policy which then resulted in a second girl being victimized? OR did the second attack occur because the school/district/board NOT follow policy/procedures? Or is the main problem that the police incorrectly believed he could be safely electronically monitored?

Depending on which situation it was, it requires different solutions. Do we change policy or should folks in the school/SB resign/lose their job because of their failure to follow policy/procedures? Or do police policy/procedures need to be changed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Washington Post confirms almost all the details from the Daily Wire story, including that it was the same student.

They even got an interview with Biberaj but didn’t ask her about her decision to prosecute the father of one of the victims…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

Except the inflammatory claims that the boy wore a skirt into the bathroom and/or is transgender/gender-fluid, but the RWNJs are still trying to use it as a platform to attack transgender people.

[Anonymous]

It was partly, if not mostly, the incident with this father that caused the National School Board Association to write to Biden/DOJ and ask parents to be treated as domestic terrorists. And, then, Merrick Garland following up saying the DOJ would get involved.

If I am correct, the father was named in one of the letters.

This is disgusting. Absolutely unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Washington Post confirms almost all the details from the Daily Wire story, including that it was the same student.

They even got an interview with Biberaj but didn’t ask her about her decision to prosecute the father of one of the victims…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

Except the inflammatory claims that the boy wore a skirt into the bathroom and/or is transgender/gender-fluid, but the RWNJs are still trying to use it as a platform to attack transgender people.

No. Not attack trans people.
It is an example of the harm that can come from having a policy allowing anyone into a restroom depending upon how they say they identify.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please also stop referring to the boy as "transgender" or "gender fluid" - he isn't.

Why? What do you call a boy who wears a skirt and chooses to use the girls bathroom?

Well, I call a trans girl who uses the girls bathroom a girl.

I call a boy who wears a skirt (which hasn't been confirmed yet via the police report) and rapes girls a rapist.

I'm sure you can find different labels, but you can be pro trans and anti rape. I know it's a lot for your little brain to handle.

Why can’t you discuss this without resorting to name-calling?

Honestly? Because living in Loudoun I see so many of you on our Facebook posts and I'm sick of it. Some of us actually know the families and it's pretty shitty for folks to weigh in because Tucker Carlson told them too.

Is it that hard to believe that non-Fox-watching, middle-of-the-road people have concerns about this?

+1 I'm a Democrat. I'm also a rape survivor. I think it's dangerous to make it normal for biological men to just walk into vulnerable places like women's bathrooms and locker rooms unquestioned.

You say that out loud in Loudoun and you get doxxed. That's why this Dad was mad at the meeting -- the woman with the rainbow heart shirt told him she would ruin his plumbing business by doxxing him online because he was lying about his daughter being raped. He called her the b word and the cop pulled on his arm and then you've seen the rest.

Please lend your voice to this cause. I am also a rape survivor and I live in Loudoun and it is terrifying that our prosecutor is not going to stand up for victims.

I’ve got your back. And his back. And Luke’s back. I don’t plan to shut up anytime soon. I think it was disgraceful the first thread was deleted.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Washington Post confirms almost all the details from the Daily Wire story, including that it was the same student.

They even got an interview with Biberaj but didn’t ask her about her decision to prosecute the father of one of the victims…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

Except the inflammatory claims that the boy wore a skirt into the bathroom and/or is transgender/gender-fluid, but the RWNJs are still trying to use it as a platform to attack transgender people.

No. Not attack trans people.
It is an example of the harm that can come from having a policy allowing anyone into a restroom depending upon how they say they identify.

What if bathrooms aren't based on gender identity, but rather biological gender. For example, if you have a penis, don't use the girls bathroom. Some trans teens have had sex reassignment surgery (i.e., Jazz Jennings).

I don't understand why cis gender girls are supposed to endure being raped in bathrooms so that persons born male who chose to identify as female can feel more included at this point. Forcible sodomy??

If the bathroom policy in place continues anyway, the girls bathroom obviously needs security. Put an officer in each bathroom so cis girls aren't raped in there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please also stop referring to the boy as "transgender" or "gender fluid" - he isn't.

Why do you say that? Reportedly he wore a skirt and used the girls bathroom. That sounds gender-fluid to me.

I'm sure in your small rural world men wearing skirts and women wearing pants means they are trans and should be burned at the stake. But those of us who have travel outside of Loudoun know that is not the case.

I can help you look up if you're not smart enough to use the computer.

It is a rapist. Period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Washington Post confirms almost all the details from the Daily Wire story, including that it was the same student.

They even got an interview with Biberaj but didn’t ask her about her decision to prosecute the father of one of the victims…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

Except the inflammatory claims that the boy wore a skirt into the bathroom and/or is transgender/gender-fluid, but the RWNJs are still trying to use it as a platform to attack transgender people.

No. Not attack trans people.
It is an example of the harm that can come from having a policy allowing anyone into a restroom depending upon how they say they identify.

No it isn't.

There is NO evidence any one with authority (or anyone in general) saw him enter the bathroom. Someone can enter a bathroom no matter their gender. They just open the door and walk in. There is no forcefield, no body guards, no anything and AGAIN the policy was NOT in place when this policy occurred. There isn't even any evidence that he was trans or gender fluid other than the dad saying he wore skirts sometimes. So really it is evidence of nothing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Throw this kid in jail. He was also probably sexually assaulted himeseld and and now unfortunately is a hardened evil criminal.

He cannot change. His brain chemistry is messed up. He is like an animal.

Honestly it’s sad in a way. Two-time sex offender at 15? I don’t think rehabilitation is likely to be possible. A wasted life already.

Why is your focus on the Taoist and not the victims? That’s the sad part. Smh

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Anonymous wrote:Washington Post confirms almost all the details from the Daily Wire story, including that it was the same student.

They even got an interview with Biberaj but didn’t ask her about her decision to prosecute the father of one of the victims…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

Except the inflammatory claims that the boy wore a skirt into the bathroom and/or is transgender/gender-fluid, but the RWNJs are still trying to use it as a platform to attack transgender people.

No. Not attack trans people.
It is an example of the harm that can come from having a policy allowing anyone into a restroom depending upon how they say they identify.

What if bathrooms aren't based on gender identity, but rather biological gender. For example, if you have a penis, don't use the girls bathroom. Some trans teens have had sex reassignment surgery (i.e., Jazz Jennings).

I don't understand why cis gender girls are supposed to endure being raped in bathrooms so that persons born male who chose to identify as female can feel more included at this point. Forcible sodomy??

If the bathroom policy in place continues anyway, the girls bathroom obviously needs security. Put an officer in each bathroom so cis girls aren't raped in there.

So glad no girls were raped in school or public bathrooms prior to these new policies (a policy that wasn't in place when this happened).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not understand this at all. What does this have to do with protecting transgender rights? Can we get some FACTS here? My questions:

1) the statement from LCPS today says the first assault was reported to the sheriff’s office the day it happened. They are under obligation to avoid any investigation of the incident until AFTER law enforcement concludes their investigation, right?

2) Are people asserting the the Board is informed of all disciplinary cases in schools or all crimes in schools? At what point is a board member informed? Would a school be in violation of Title IX by transferring an accused assaulted or expelling him/her before a school investigation could occur?

(For those getting political, remember that it was the Besty DeVos Dept of Ed that swung the pendulum back to the rights of accused rapists to avoid any consequences at school until AFTEr an assault had been proven through a legal process. If lane enforcement says that the school can’t investigate until they are done investigating, what authority does the school have to suspend or expel a student?

It seems to me that law enforcement dropped the ball here, not LCPS. How can people hold the Board responsible when they weren’t even allowed to be notified until after law enforcement concluded their investigation?

If the student had been arrested for violent assault, that student would NOT be in classes the next day. There IS juvenile debate too still, despite the uninformed political agitators here claiming there is only “restorative justice.” I have a friend who taught for years at the Fairfax County juvenile detention center.

So…the question is not really anything about elevated school hoard members, but rather why didn’t law enforcement arrest this student after the first reported assault?

The issue of gender fluidity or whatever seems like a total red herring, as the student assaulted someone else in a CLASSROOM. This has nothing to do with transgender rights. Rapists can find victims in school building in lots of places.

The issue you’re missing is that a dad went to the school board to ask questions like yours and was totally shut down by everyone there, arrested, and then basically believed to be a liar. The rapes are awful. Burying the story is worse.

This

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Anonymous wrote:It clearly mattered to the principal and the school board. Because that why they hid it

https://www.loudountimes.com/news/lcps-issues-response-to-newly-surfaced-sexual-assault-allegations/article_6420912a-2c55-11ec-b677-1f5c38b8993a.html

"LCPS officials, in an effort to maintain the student suspect’s due process in the alleged May 28 sexual assault, said school board members were not made aware of the incident until it was reported in the media earlier this week."

Smith told them in June. They had him arrested:

“ Smith attended a June school board meeting where he voiced his concerns over students using restrooms that correspond with their chosen gender identity. He said the controversial policies being pushed by LCPS factored into the attack against his daughter.

He was arrested at that meeting and later found guilty of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. “

He was absolutely out of line, acting violent towards a woman and he refused to listen to the police officers who were very nice and very patient. He was belligerent and threatening.

Let’s see how you’d behave if your child was violently raped at school, had the school cover it up, transfer the rapist out to commit another rape and you’re told you’re a liar and wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Washington Post confirms almost all the details from the Daily Wire story, including that it was the same student.

They even got an interview with Biberaj but didn’t ask her about her decision to prosecute the father of one of the victims…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

Except the inflammatory claims that the boy wore a skirt into the bathroom and/or is transgender/gender-fluid, but the RWNJs are still trying to use it as a platform to attack transgender people.

No. Not attack trans people.
It is an example of the harm that can come from having a policy allowing anyone into a restroom depending upon how they say they identify.

What if bathrooms aren't based on gender identity, but rather biological gender. For example, if you have a penis, don't use the girls bathroom. Some trans teens have had sex reassignment surgery (i.e., Jazz Jennings).

I don't understand why cis gender girls are supposed to endure being raped in bathrooms so that persons born male who chose to identify as female can feel more included at this point. Forcible sodomy??

If the bathroom policy in place continues anyway, the girls bathroom obviously needs security. Put an officer in each bathroom so cis girls aren't raped in there.

So glad no girls were raped in school or public bathrooms prior to these new policies (a policy that wasn't in place when this happened).

Well since they were being raped before, nothing to see here. Move along.