FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:Omg who cares. All these people on here being so nasty to each other...for what? Amazing what being behind screens will do.
I mean, we all care, that's why we are on here...but go voice it to the school board.


I’d be nasty to anyone to their face who is advocating to move my kids for some equity agenda.

I’m generally a nice person, but f around with my kids and find out.


Classic keyboard warrior talk. But maybe you'll lose your sh*t at some upcoming SB meeting and get arrested. Would be hilarious.


DP. The only person behaving like someone who would get arrested at a SB meeting is you.
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Anonymous wrote:Omg who cares. All these people on here being so nasty to each other...for what? Amazing what being behind screens will do.
I mean, we all care, that's why we are on here...but go voice it to the school board.


I’d be nasty to anyone to their face who is advocating to move my kids for some equity agenda.

I’m generally a nice person, but f around with my kids and find out.


Classic keyboard warrior talk. But maybe you'll lose your sh*t at some upcoming SB meeting and get arrested. Would be hilarious.


DP. The only person behaving like someone who would get arrested at a SB meeting is you.


Really? Who were the folks who showed up at a School Board meeting last year and booed a student - a student - when she expressed support for a boundary study? Langley parents.

Who were the folks who repeatedly interrupted a School Board work session in 2019 to discuss potential revisions to the boundary policy? Langley parents.

Who were the folks who screamed and shouted at Janie Strauss at a meeting at Forestville ES years ago because they feared and hated their Herndon neighbors so much? Langley parents.

There's a track record here.
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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?


Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.


+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island


I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.


What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.


No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.


Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.


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Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.


Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.


DP. Seems relevant. I like when she asks.


Thanks. It is, indeed, relevant. I don't have any opinion whatsoever about where kids *other than my own* go to school. It's the height of arrogance for the PP (and others) to think they have any say at all in where other people's kids go to school - especially when they refuse to divulge their kids' school.


Funny because you never call out the Langley posters who are coming up with all sorts of suggestions about where kids zoned to schools other than Langley should be reassigned. Hypocrite.


When posters who refuse to identify their own school blather on constantly about what they think is "best" for other people's kids, then I really couldn't care less if they are treated exactly the same way. Langley posters aren't hiding what school their kids go to. You are, though. Which makes me dismiss anything you have to say. You don't get a say, sorry.


Langley posters have long tried to dismiss the views of anyone not from their school. Screw you.


Now who is being tough behind a keyboard?

Consider that maybe you have it wrong. Maybe Langley parents just want what’s best for their kids and don’t like others with a misguided agenda using their kids as cattle to slightly lower a farms rate at another school.

You have this narrative in your head that Great falls residents are against you, but what if it’s just that we have no opinion about you? What if, hear me out, it isn’t all about you?
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I am a Herndon parent, and have not posted on this thread for some weeks, so do not come at me for these recent posts.

Personally, I really don’t care about the equity stuff. My kid is doing just fine at Herndon. She has lots of friends, great teachers, excellent coaches, blah, blah, blah. We don’t need any Langley kids to come and “save” our, what some call, undesired school. We do just fine, thank you very much!

What I do care about are my taxes paying for inefficient bus routes. I would also be annoyed if I had to share my commute to work with a bunch of teenage drivers clogging up the roads driving all the way to Langley, from the Fairfax-Loudoun border. Make it make sense.
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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?


Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.


+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island


I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.


What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.


No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.


Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.


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Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.


Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.


DP. Seems relevant. I like when she asks.


Thanks. It is, indeed, relevant. I don't have any opinion whatsoever about where kids *other than my own* go to school. It's the height of arrogance for the PP (and others) to think they have any say at all in where other people's kids go to school - especially when they refuse to divulge their kids' school.


Funny because you never call out the Langley posters who are coming up with all sorts of suggestions about where kids zoned to schools other than Langley should be reassigned. Hypocrite.


When posters who refuse to identify their own school blather on constantly about what they think is "best" for other people's kids, then I really couldn't care less if they are treated exactly the same way. Langley posters aren't hiding what school their kids go to. You are, though. Which makes me dismiss anything you have to say. You don't get a say, sorry.


Langley posters have long tried to dismiss the views of anyone not from their school. Screw you.


Now who is being tough behind a keyboard?

Consider that maybe you have it wrong. Maybe Langley parents just want what’s best for their kids and don’t like others with a misguided agenda using their kids as cattle to slightly lower a farms rate at another school.

You have this narrative in your head that Great falls residents are against you, but what if it’s just that we have no opinion about you? What if, hear me out, it isn’t all about you?


Are you implying non-Langley parents care less about their kids education? When you agree to send your kid to public school, there is no guarantee your child will attend the school of your choice. Private schools are always an option if you are dissatisfied with your assigned public school.
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Anonymous wrote:I am a Herndon parent, and have not posted on this thread for some weeks, so do not come at me for these recent posts.

Personally, I really don’t care about the equity stuff. My kid is doing just fine at Herndon. She has lots of friends, great teachers, excellent coaches, blah, blah, blah. We don’t need any Langley kids to come and “save” our, what some call, undesired school. We do just fine, thank you very much!

What I do care about are my taxes paying for inefficient bus routes. I would also be annoyed if I had to share my commute to work with a bunch of teenage drivers clogging up the roads driving all the way to Langley, from the Fairfax-Loudoun border. Make it make sense.


If you care about transportation costs, then hands down you should be pushing back against the boundary review. Each change will likely include grandfathering that relies on double bus runs for at least a couple of years.

As has been discussed in this thread, even tonight, is that the distance to a location doesn’t necessary dictate drive time (eg, 17 traffic lights vs 3).

Something tells me that you secretly do want to stick it to your great falls neighbors, but that you want to come off as noble - your “make it make sense” comment betrays your statements earlier in your post.
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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?


Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.


+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island


I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.


What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.


No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.


Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.


+1
Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.


Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.


DP. Seems relevant. I like when she asks.


Thanks. It is, indeed, relevant. I don't have any opinion whatsoever about where kids *other than my own* go to school. It's the height of arrogance for the PP (and others) to think they have any say at all in where other people's kids go to school - especially when they refuse to divulge their kids' school.


Funny because you never call out the Langley posters who are coming up with all sorts of suggestions about where kids zoned to schools other than Langley should be reassigned. Hypocrite.


When posters who refuse to identify their own school blather on constantly about what they think is "best" for other people's kids, then I really couldn't care less if they are treated exactly the same way. Langley posters aren't hiding what school their kids go to. You are, though. Which makes me dismiss anything you have to say. You don't get a say, sorry.


Langley posters have long tried to dismiss the views of anyone not from their school. Screw you.


Now who is being tough behind a keyboard?

Consider that maybe you have it wrong. Maybe Langley parents just want what’s best for their kids and don’t like others with a misguided agenda using their kids as cattle to slightly lower a farms rate at another school.

You have this narrative in your head that Great falls residents are against you, but what if it’s just that we have no opinion about you? What if, hear me out, it isn’t all about you?


Are you implying non-Langley parents care less about their kids education? When you agree to send your kid to public school, there is no guarantee your child will attend the school of your choice. Private schools are always an option if you are dissatisfied with your assigned public school.


What’s an illogical leap you make.

And there you go again, thinking you know what’s best for my kids.
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Anonymous wrote:I am a Herndon parent, and have not posted on this thread for some weeks, so do not come at me for these recent posts.

Personally, I really don’t care about the equity stuff. My kid is doing just fine at Herndon. She has lots of friends, great teachers, excellent coaches, blah, blah, blah. We don’t need any Langley kids to come and “save” our, what some call, undesired school. We do just fine, thank you very much!

What I do care about are my taxes paying for inefficient bus routes. I would also be annoyed if I had to share my commute to work with a bunch of teenage drivers clogging up the roads driving all the way to Langley, from the Fairfax-Loudoun border. Make it make sense.


If you care about transportation costs, then hands down you should be pushing back against the boundary review. Each change will likely include grandfathering that relies on double bus runs for at least a couple of years.

As has been discussed in this thread, even tonight, is that the distance to a location doesn’t necessary dictate drive time (eg, 17 traffic lights vs 3).

Something tells me that you secretly do want to stick it to your great falls neighbors, but that you want to come off as noble - your “make it make sense” comment betrays your statements earlier in your post.
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Anonymous wrote:I am a Herndon parent, and have not posted on this thread for some weeks, so do not come at me for these recent posts.

Personally, I really don’t care about the equity stuff. My kid is doing just fine at Herndon. She has lots of friends, great teachers, excellent coaches, blah, blah, blah. We don’t need any Langley kids to come and “save” our, what some call, undesired school. We do just fine, thank you very much!

What I do care about are my taxes paying for inefficient bus routes. I would also be annoyed if I had to share my commute to work with a bunch of teenage drivers clogging up the roads driving all the way to Langley, from the Fairfax-Loudoun border. Make it make sense.


If you care about transportation costs, then hands down you should be pushing back against the boundary review. Each change will likely include grandfathering that relies on double bus runs for at least a couple of years.

As has been discussed in this thread, even tonight, is that the distance to a location doesn’t necessary dictate drive time (eg, 17 traffic lights vs 3).

Something tells me that you secretly do want to stick it to your great falls neighbors, but that you want to come off as noble - your “make it make sense” comment betrays your statements earlier in your post.


And after those years, the bus routes will be more efficient, Change is painful in the beginning, but I thought public school was intended to benefit the public, in general.

There are plenty of neighborhoods, currently zoned for Langley that are around 3 miles away and 7-10 mins drive. There might be a few stop lights, but the distance is minimal compared to the commute to Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?


Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.


+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island


I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.


What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.


No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.


Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.


+1
Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.


Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.


DP. Seems relevant. I like when she asks.


Thanks. It is, indeed, relevant. I don't have any opinion whatsoever about where kids *other than my own* go to school. It's the height of arrogance for the PP (and others) to think they have any say at all in where other people's kids go to school - especially when they refuse to divulge their kids' school.


Funny because you never call out the Langley posters who are coming up with all sorts of suggestions about where kids zoned to schools other than Langley should be reassigned. Hypocrite.


When posters who refuse to identify their own school blather on constantly about what they think is "best" for other people's kids, then I really couldn't care less if they are treated exactly the same way. Langley posters aren't hiding what school their kids go to. You are, though. Which makes me dismiss anything you have to say. You don't get a say, sorry.


Langley posters have long tried to dismiss the views of anyone not from their school. Screw you.


Now who is being tough behind a keyboard?

Consider that maybe you have it wrong. Maybe Langley parents just want what’s best for their kids and don’t like others with a misguided agenda using their kids as cattle to slightly lower a farms rate at another school.

You have this narrative in your head that Great falls residents are against you, but what if it’s just that we have no opinion about you? What if, hear me out, it isn’t all about you?


Are you implying non-Langley parents care less about their kids education? When you agree to send your kid to public school, there is no guarantee your child will attend the school of your choice. Private schools are always an option if you are dissatisfied with your assigned public school.


What’s an illogical leap you make.

And there you go again, thinking you know what’s best for my kids.


If every family in the fcps had the option to choose what they think is best for their kids, the system would be so much more chaotic than it is now.

I would love for my kids to attend Chantilly HS so they wouldn’t have to take the bus there to take their Academy classes. I think that would be best for my kids, but the system does not work like that. So, my solution would be to buy a house within that boundary, but we cannot afford that now; so we do the best we can. You have that option as well.
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Anonymous wrote:I am a Herndon parent, and have not posted on this thread for some weeks, so do not come at me for these recent posts.

Personally, I really don’t care about the equity stuff. My kid is doing just fine at Herndon. She has lots of friends, great teachers, excellent coaches, blah, blah, blah. We don’t need any Langley kids to come and “save” our, what some call, undesired school. We do just fine, thank you very much!

What I do care about are my taxes paying for inefficient bus routes. I would also be annoyed if I had to share my commute to work with a bunch of teenage drivers clogging up the roads driving all the way to Langley, from the Fairfax-Loudoun border. Make it make sense.


You sound like someone who claimed to be a Madison parent on another thread. Same exact voice - I don’t think your a parent at all.
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Here it the issue with bus routes.
It won’t make sense for our individual kids. Kids still may be attending schools that aren’t the closest ones to us because they are looking at our kids like packages. They are fed ex routing a bunch of c packages. Sometimes fed ex does crazy stuff like rout a package out of the way because the system runs more efficiently that way. That package could be your kid or my kid that gets routed out of the way because it is more efficient for the “greater good.”

I am completely against that idea. The purpose of government should be for the people and should be built around people which is not always the same as being efficient. Local Government needs to have community at its heart and should be built to have the best interests of its individual
Communities and children. Making the most efficient choices the entire district (both as far as busses and school choice shouldn’t be the goal. The goal, which parents already clearly said they wanted the last time a boundary study was done, should be strengthening the community and the trust people have in their existing schools and local government.

The buses may not run on the mOST efficient route, but they may tun in the most efficient route that keeps Fairfax’s network smaller communities intact.

That should be the goal of redoing boundaries, not complete efficiency or race or free and reduced meals. It is what parents have already said they value.
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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?


Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.


+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island


I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.


What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.


No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.


Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.


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Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.


Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.


DP. Seems relevant. I like when she asks.


Thanks. It is, indeed, relevant. I don't have any opinion whatsoever about where kids *other than my own* go to school. It's the height of arrogance for the PP (and others) to think they have any say at all in where other people's kids go to school - especially when they refuse to divulge their kids' school.


Funny because you never call out the Langley posters who are coming up with all sorts of suggestions about where kids zoned to schools other than Langley should be reassigned. Hypocrite.


When posters who refuse to identify their own school blather on constantly about what they think is "best" for other people's kids, then I really couldn't care less if they are treated exactly the same way. Langley posters aren't hiding what school their kids go to. You are, though. Which makes me dismiss anything you have to say. You don't get a say, sorry.


Langley posters have long tried to dismiss the views of anyone not from their school. Screw you.


This post speaks volumes about your true intentions. For you, it’s not about FCPS kids, it’s not even about your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?


Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.


+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island


I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.


What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.


No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.


Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.


+1
Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.


Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.


DP. Seems relevant. I like when she asks.


Thanks. It is, indeed, relevant. I don't have any opinion whatsoever about where kids *other than my own* go to school. It's the height of arrogance for the PP (and others) to think they have any say at all in where other people's kids go to school - especially when they refuse to divulge their kids' school.


Funny because you never call out the Langley posters who are coming up with all sorts of suggestions about where kids zoned to schools other than Langley should be reassigned. Hypocrite.


When posters who refuse to identify their own school blather on constantly about what they think is "best" for other people's kids, then I really couldn't care less if they are treated exactly the same way. Langley posters aren't hiding what school their kids go to. You are, though. Which makes me dismiss anything you have to say. You don't get a say, sorry.


Langley posters have long tried to dismiss the views of anyone not from their school. Screw you.


Now who is being tough behind a keyboard?

Consider that maybe you have it wrong. Maybe Langley parents just want what’s best for their kids and don’t like others with a misguided agenda using their kids as cattle to slightly lower a farms rate at another school.

You have this narrative in your head that Great falls residents are against you, but what if it’s just that we have no opinion about you? What if, hear me out, it isn’t all about you?


Are you implying non-Langley parents care less about their kids education? When you agree to send your kid to public school, there is no guarantee your child will attend the school of your choice. Private schools are always an option if you are dissatisfied with your assigned public school.


What’s an illogical leap you make.

And there you go again, thinking you know what’s best for my kids.


Ugh! You sound like the parent that requests their child’s teacher prepare all the school work their kid will miss when you pull them out of school for a few days., because that is what is “best for your child”.
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Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?


Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.


Much of great falls elementary is further to Langley than forestville. I think they would have to redo boundaries with forestville and great falls if distance is a factor in moving an entire school from a pyramid. Also has anyone looked at middle school capacities and distances? Herndon middle (or Hughes for AAP) is only marginally closer drive time wise than cooper.


These drive time discussions on Great Falls Elementary are irrelevant considering why that low density NW corner was a late addition during an extremely limited scope boundary process. There are households assigned to Forestville and Colvin Run politically instead of sites that currently feed to Herndon or South Lakes pyramid schools.

I really don't know how Thru or FCPS could justify continuing to send to Langley households: located west of the Seneca Road access to Georgetown Pike, CDP Dranesville, Sugarland voting precinct [location Herndon HS], or other neighborhoods with easy access to Draneville Elementary [enrollment is about 600 and its getting a capacity addition to 1000], Aldrin, Armstrong, Forest Edge. Since that committee is 2 parent/caregivers per region for 12/50 leaving 38 of what? staff + community members [likely reps from FC citizens association, large citizens associations/HOAs] special tax districts like Reston/Mclean, Towns Vienna + Herndon. Langley boundary could have political seepage via who is in the community mix of 38 less staff.

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