Video Finish

[Anonymous]

Suppose a coveted A-meet spot was on the line and you had just happened to have recorded your DD finishing and touching the wall first before the swimmer who had a recorded time .01 ahead (though the video showed the other swimmer actually above the water and not near the wall at the time. She looked like she might have touched earlier but had to go through a whole cycle. What would you do if anything? Only thing I can think of is maybe showing the coach. Or maybe just share it with my buddies on the team and chuckle about A-meet people.

[Anonymous]

Don't do anything. Video is not acceptable for contesting results and I promise you, you will be mocked by whoever you bring your evidence to. I officiate for USA swimming, and many parents have tried to show us video, but iphone video is typically 24 frames per sec, and if you are trying to use it to argue about a 1/100 sec difference ... well you see the problem.

[Anonymous]

Video means nothing.

[Anonymous]

Your DD needs to swim faster so that there is no question she finished first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't do anything. Video is not acceptable for contesting results and I promise you, you will be mocked by whoever you bring your evidence to. I officiate for USA swimming, and many parents have tried to show us video, but iphone video is typically 24 frames per sec, and if you are trying to use it to argue about a 1/100 sec difference ... well you see the problem.

If anything, the video shows that it wasn't 1/100 the of a second's difference. Like you have one frame with one swimmer's hand on the wall with the other swimmers' hands in the air.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your DD needs to swim faster so that there is no question she finished first.

My gosh you people suck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't do anything. Video is not acceptable for contesting results and I promise you, you will be mocked by whoever you bring your evidence to. I officiate for USA swimming, and many parents have tried to show us video, but iphone video is typically 24 frames per sec, and if you are trying to use it to argue about a 1/100 sec difference ... well you see the problem.

If anything, the video shows that it wasn't 1/100 the of a second's difference. Like you have one frame with one swimmer's hand on the wall with the other swimmers' hands in the air.

Maybe the other hand was on the wall?? Unless you’re talking about fly

[Anonymous]

But definitely do nothing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Suppose a coveted A-meet spot was on the line and you had just happened to have recorded your DD finishing and touching the wall first before the swimmer who had a recorded time .01 ahead (though the video showed the other swimmer actually above the water and not near the wall at the time. She looked like she might have touched earlier but had to go through a whole cycle. What would you do if anything? Only thing I can think of is maybe showing the coach. Or maybe just share it with my buddies on the team and chuckle about A-meet people.

Unless its a truly obvious fat-finger error, don't bother. You could ask the coach if he/she saw it and mention it seemed pretty clear the timing is off...don't go beyond that. There will be other races and if your kid gets smoked by the other kid, you'll look silly. If your kid eventually beats the other kid, you'll look like a non-crazy parent.

[Anonymous]

Videos are never accepted to protest times, DQs, false starts, or anything else.

[Anonymous]

Two things - one, if you have watched enough swimming on tv, you know that video can look incredible deceptive. I have seen many races on tv and in person from the AO’s desk that look like one person finished first when they, in fact, did not. The angle of the footage can be deceptive. You can’t be certain that a swimmer is touching the wall when their hands are in the water. It can look like swimmer A is touching the wall, when they are still a few inches away, and the swimmer B is accelerating fast enough to out touch swimmer A. See Michael Phelps vs Cavic in 2008 as an example.

https://youtu.be/4xUIyPrJIr0?si=Go_BV9FCc_PO-q66

Two, maybe you are right and someone messed up the finish order, but it won’t matter and no one will change the result. Don’t go any further with this. You will be branded a crazy swim parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two things - one, if you have watched enough swimming on tv, you know that video can look incredible deceptive. I have seen many races on tv and in person from the AO’s desk that look like one person finished first when they, in fact, did not. The angle of the footage can be deceptive. You can’t be certain that a swimmer is touching the wall when their hands are in the water. It can look like swimmer A is touching the wall, when they are still a few inches away, and the swimmer B is accelerating fast enough to out touch swimmer A. See Michael Phelps vs Cavic in 2008 as an example.

https://youtu.be/4xUIyPrJIr0?si=Go_BV9FCc_PO-q66

Two, maybe you are right and someone messed up the finish order, but it won’t matter and no one will change the result. Don’t go any further with this. You will be branded a crazy swim parent.

Oh, you don't know anything about summer swim then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two things - one, if you have watched enough swimming on tv, you know that video can look incredible deceptive. I have seen many races on tv and in person from the AO’s desk that look like one person finished first when they, in fact, did not. The angle of the footage can be deceptive. You can’t be certain that a swimmer is touching the wall when their hands are in the water. It can look like swimmer A is touching the wall, when they are still a few inches away, and the swimmer B is accelerating fast enough to out touch swimmer A. See Michael Phelps vs Cavic in 2008 as an example.

https://youtu.be/4xUIyPrJIr0?si=Go_BV9FCc_PO-q66

Two, maybe you are right and someone messed up the finish order, but it won’t matter and no one will change the result. Don’t go any further with this.

You will be branded a crazy swim parent.

Correction. You ARE said crazy parent. Not future tense. This is beyond crazy.

[Anonymous]

Keep it to yourself. Do not share with friends. This is kids summer swim. Get perspective.

[Anonymous]

Do NOT share with friends. I would drop you fairly quickly if you showed me this video and then tried to get me to make fun of other parents. And word will get around that you're THAT mom.