Video Finish

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do NOT share with friends. I would drop you fairly quickly if you showed me this video and then tried to get me to make fun of other parents. And word will get around that you're THAT mom.

Interesting...I assumed it was a dad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Suppose a coveted A-meet spot was on the line and you had just happened to have recorded your DD finishing and touching the wall first before the swimmer who had a recorded time .01 ahead (though the video showed the other swimmer actually above the water and not near the wall at the time. She looked like she might have touched earlier but had to go through a whole cycle. What would you do if anything? Only thing I can think of is maybe showing the coach. Or maybe just share it with my buddies on the team and chuckle about A-meet people.

Unless its a truly obvious fat-finger error, don't bother. You could ask the coach if he/she saw it and mention it seemed pretty clear the timing is off...don't go beyond that. There will be other races and if your kid gets smoked by the other kid, you'll look silly. If your kid eventually beats the other kid, you'll look like a non-crazy parent.

+1 need to calibrate your emotions to the stakes involved in summer swim which is what I assume when you said "coveted A-meet spot". Stakes are LOW. EXTREMELY LOW.

I hope you did not go ahead and tell your DD about this video and show it to her.........

[Anonymous]

I work at the data table for our team and folks who come to us with videos are…missing the point of summer swim. We politely explain that the video doesn’t mean anything.

Having said that, there are sometimes card errors, and we have no issue with someone asking for us to re-check a card. It’s best to go through the team rep, but it’s not a problem.

I would say I get someone (coach or parent) asking us to recheck about 1x/week. From those there is maybe one error over the summer. So despite all the snark, it’s ok to ask, and mistakes happen.

Just don’t be a jerk about it

[Anonymous]

If I were even thinking about sharing this video, I'd delete it and then focus on myself so that I get my priorities straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do NOT share with friends. I would drop you fairly quickly if you showed me this video and then tried to get me to make fun of other parents. And word will get around that you're THAT mom.

Agree. Trying to make fun of supposed “crazy” parents by showing this video is the height of being unaware of your own hypocrisy. Do your kid a favor and let it go. No one wants to be the kid with the deluded parent with “video evidence”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things - one, if you have watched enough swimming on tv, you know that video can look incredible deceptive. I have seen many races on tv and in person from the AO’s desk that look like one person finished first when they, in fact, did not. The angle of the footage can be deceptive. You can’t be certain that a swimmer is touching the wall when their hands are in the water. It can look like swimmer A is touching the wall, when they are still a few inches away, and the swimmer B is accelerating fast enough to out touch swimmer A. See Michael Phelps vs Cavic in 2008 as an example.

https://youtu.be/4xUIyPrJIr0?si=Go_BV9FCc_PO-q66

Two, maybe you are right and someone messed up the finish order, but it won’t matter and no one will change the result. Don’t go any further with this.

You will be branded a crazy swim parent.

Correction. You ARE said crazy parent. Not future tense. This is beyond crazy.

Lol. Sure, it’s everyone else who is crazy, not you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do NOT share with friends. I would drop you fairly quickly if you showed me this video and then tried to get me to make fun of other parents. And word will get around that you're THAT mom.

Interesting...I assumed it was a dad.

I don't think a dad would post this question. They would just do it or debate about it on their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Suppose a coveted A-meet spot was on the line and you had just happened to have recorded your DD finishing and touching the wall first before the swimmer who had a recorded time .01 ahead (though the video showed the other swimmer actually above the water and not near the wall at the time. She looked like she might have touched earlier but had to go through a whole cycle. What would you do if anything? Only thing I can think of is maybe showing the coach. Or maybe just share it with my buddies on the team and chuckle about A-meet people.

Unless its a truly obvious fat-finger error, don't bother. You could ask the coach if he/she saw it and mention it seemed pretty clear the timing is off...don't go beyond that. There will be other races and if your kid gets smoked by the other kid, you'll look silly. If your kid eventually beats the other kid, you'll look like a non-crazy parent.

Even that kind of error won’t get corrected. It’s the nature of the beast with stopwatches.

[Anonymous]

In another thread, a poster was complaining about the need for three timers per lane. This is why. If you went two or even one, these errors would happen regularly instead of occasionally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In another thread, a poster was complaining about the need for three timers per lane. This is why. If you went two or even one, these errors would happen regularly instead of occasionally.

Although the costs would be pretty high considering how few times a year anyone hosts a meet, I would love to have touchpads to improve precision - but this is MCSL (or NVSL) so that money is way better spent elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

I have a video that shows indisputable visual evidence of my child winning a 25M race by approximate 1-2 inches over a swimmer on our team. The timers had my child in 2nd place by .10 second. It doesn’t matter. None of this matters.

At the time, the only thing that bothered me at all was the “winner” bragging to my kid about being better because they won.

Do nothing but tell your kid s/he did a great job.

[Anonymous]

FWIW, I have one and dont plan to share with anyone. In our case I was surprised when I saw the results posted and checked back on the video I’d taken since DC likes to review stroke form. Somehow another swimmer in the heat was recorded 5 seconds ahead in a close finish, which seems too much for even a hand timing error so I guess it was a summer swim recording/handwriting error. In this case it’s the other swimmer who I feel for with a new time that’s likely ahead of where they’ll be legitimately for a long time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a video that shows indisputable visual evidence of my child winning a 25M race by approximate 1-2 inches over a swimmer on our team. The timers had my child in 2nd place by .10 second. It doesn’t matter. None of this matters.

At the time, the only thing that bothered me at all was the “winner” bragging to my kid about being better because they won.

Do nothing but tell your kid s/he did a great job.

If this is a 25m race, the kids are quite young. Get over it. It's rec swim with little kids. Let them have fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a video that shows indisputable visual evidence of my child winning a 25M race by approximate 1-2 inches over a swimmer on our team. The timers had my child in 2nd place by .10 second. It doesn’t matter. None of this matters.

At the time, the only thing that bothered me at all was the “winner” bragging to my kid about being better because they won.

Do nothing but tell your kid s/he did a great job.

If this is a 25m race, the kids are quite young. Get over it. It's rec swim with little kids. Let them have fun.

Do you suffer from poor reading comprehension? “It doesn’t matter” “Do nothing”. Those would be clear indications that I got over it, and was offering advice to the OP to do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at the data table for our team and folks who come to us with videos are…missing the point of summer swim. We politely explain that the video doesn’t mean anything.

Having said that, there are sometimes card errors, and we have no issue with someone asking for us to re-check a card. It’s best to go through the team rep, but it’s not a problem.

I would say I get someone (coach or parent) asking us to recheck about 1x/week. From those there is maybe one error over the summer. So despite all the snark, it’s ok to ask, and mistakes happen.

Just don’t be a jerk about it

Ah, that would be a reasonable approach send the video, ask to see if there might have been a card error.