Concerns That New Department of Education Earnings Test Could Undermine Arts, Public Service Degree Programs

[Anonymous]

The Department of Education is finalizing a rule that would judge college programs based on how much money graduates make after leaving school. Programs whose graduates don’t earn enough compared to their student debt would lose access to federal student loans. According to estimates, nearly half of graduate programs in fields like art, music, theater, and dance would fail the test. If a program loses federal loan eligibility, many students may no longer be able to afford to attend, forcing them to transfer, switch majors, or leave school.

https://www.aau.edu/newsroom/leading-research-universities-report/aau-raises-concerns-new-department-education-earnings
AAU Raises Concerns That New Department of Education Earnings Test Could Undermine Arts, Public Service Degree Programs

[Anonymous]

Why is this bad? I rather have 18 year olds adjust their dream major to a minor or a club than have them be broke at 30 and default on loans.

[Anonymous]

Not DCUM’s area of concern, but I’d expect this to hit theology programs pretty hard too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Department of Education is finalizing a rule that would judge college programs based on how much money graduates make after leaving school. Programs whose graduates don’t earn enough compared to their student debt would lose access to federal student loans. According to estimates, nearly half of graduate programs in fields like art, music, theater, and dance would fail the test. If a program loses federal loan eligibility, many students may no longer be able to afford to attend, forcing them to transfer, switch majors, or leave school.

https://www.aau.edu/newsroom/leading-research-universities-report/aau-raises-concerns-new-department-education-earnings
AAU Raises Concerns That New Department of Education Earnings Test Could Undermine Arts, Public Service Degree Programs

This is an outstanding approach. They should have implemented this a long time back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Department of Education is finalizing a rule that would judge college programs based on how much money graduates make after leaving school. Programs whose graduates don’t earn enough compared to their student debt would lose access to federal student loans. According to estimates, nearly half of graduate programs in fields like art, music, theater, and dance would fail the test. If a program loses federal loan eligibility, many students may no longer be able to afford to attend, forcing them to transfer, switch majors, or leave school.

https://www.aau.edu/newsroom/leading-research-universities-report/aau-raises-concerns-new-department-education-earnings
AAU Raises Concerns That New Department of Education Earnings Test Could Undermine Arts, Public Service Degree Programs

Long overdue.

[Anonymous]

This will be good for admissions to humanities for those who are full pay I imagine.

[Anonymous]

Fine with me. Schools should not be offering degrees that never pay off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fine with me. Schools should not be offering degrees that never pay off.

Well, we shouldn’t be financing such degrees with public loans. If some heiress wants a degree in studio art, she should absolutely be allowed to spend daddy’s money on it, even if the degree will never pay off in a narrow economic sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fine with me. Schools should not be offering degrees that never pay off.

Like education?

I don’t know… I kind of feel we should help people who are interested in serving others over self.

We can’t all serve ourselves.

[Anonymous]

A loss for the arts and rural America, where the salaries aren’t commensurate with the importance or value of the work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine with me. Schools should not be offering degrees that never pay off.

Well, we shouldn’t be financing such degrees with public loans. If some heiress wants a degree in studio art, she should absolutely be allowed to spend daddy’s money on it, even if the degree will never pay off in a narrow economic sense.

What a self-own this is.

Your family clearly doesn’t have any talent in the arts and you don’t have a home where art, music, dance, and drama are present. If you did, you would support arts education. How sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine with me. Schools should not be offering degrees that never pay off.

Well, we shouldn’t be financing such degrees with public loans. If some heiress wants a degree in studio art, she should absolutely be allowed to spend daddy’s money on it, even if the degree will never pay off in a narrow economic sense.

What a self-own this is.

Your family clearly doesn’t have any talent in the arts and you don’t have a home where art, music, dance, and drama are present. If you did, you would support arts education. How sad.

I don't think they don't support arts education. They just don't think the American people should be financing it for students who will most likely default on their loan (as history has shown). There are plenty of full pay families that can continue to pay the tuitions for these humanities programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine with me. Schools should not be offering degrees that never pay off.

Like education?

I don’t know… I kind of feel we should help people who are interested in serving others over self.

We can’t all serve ourselves.

Who is going to become a teacher now???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine with me. Schools should not be offering degrees that never pay off.

Well, we shouldn’t be financing such degrees with public loans. If some heiress wants a degree in studio art, she should absolutely be allowed to spend daddy’s money on it, even if the degree will never pay off in a narrow economic sense.

What a self-own this is.

Your family clearly doesn’t have any talent in the arts and you don’t have a home where art, music, dance, and drama are present. If you did, you would support arts education. How sad.

I don't think they don't support arts education. They just don't think the American people should be financing it for students who will most likely default on their loan (as history has shown). There are plenty of full pay families that can continue to pay the tuitions for these humanities programs.

What about financing an education degree? Elementary English - reading?

[Anonymous]

This is going to cause a lot of anger. Once coal miners & assembly line workers notice a decline in the quality of their musical theater, they will be LIVID!