Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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What on earth, sorry to just state the obvious, but wouldn’t it be difficult to get an overweight 84 year-old into a septic tank?

Not if she was dismembered or acid was used to degrade the body. Terrible I know. Whoever did this needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

OK thank you sadly that makes more sense.

That makes more sense? On what planet?

It makes more sense that she would’ve been dismembered instead of them, throwing a fat 84-year-old into a small drywell.

Why do you keep posting she’s fat? 5’5" and 150 is not that big b

This woman will not be easily moved like a frail old lady:

Two Men can easily pick her up. Don’t underestimate a man’s strength.

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What on earth, sorry to just state the obvious, but wouldn’t it be difficult to get an overweight 84 year-old into a septic tank?

Not if she was dismembered or acid was used to degrade the body. Terrible I know. Whoever did this needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

OK thank you sadly that makes more sense.

That makes more sense? On what planet?

It makes more sense that she would’ve been dismembered instead of them, throwing a fat 84-year-old into a small drywell.

Why do you keep posting she’s fat? 5’5" and 150 is not that big b

This woman will not be easily moved like a frail old lady:

Two Men can easily pick her up. Don’t underestimate a man’s strength.

She's closer to 190.

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Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying someone randomly noticed that Nancy wasn’t online watching church and called her daughter to go check on her?

Np here, but sure that could happen. I’m sure someone monitors who is online and it would be very noticeable if someone wasn’t there.

I heard about a family who k ew something was wrong with an older relative because they had not posted in the Wordle group chat that day. Lots of older people have very consistent schedules.

I think her church said they aren't set-up to track online attendees. Sounds like the version they gave police isn't panning out

Right - they mentioned a church friend alerted them that Nancy didn’t attend. How did Nancy’s friend have Annie’s number? Which friend? Cell records are easily obtainable.

They messed up by using that as their reason

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What on earth, sorry to just state the obvious, but wouldn’t it be difficult to get an overweight 84 year-old into a septic tank?

Not if she was dismembered or acid was used to degrade the body. Terrible I know. Whoever did this needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

OK thank you sadly that makes more sense.

That makes more sense? On what planet?

It makes more sense that she would’ve been dismembered instead of them, throwing a fat 84-year-old into a small drywell.

Why do you keep posting she’s fat? 5’5" and 150 is not that big b

This woman will not be easily moved like a frail old lady:

Two Men can easily pick her up. Don’t underestimate a man’s strength.

She's closer to 190.

CNA’s pick up elders that size and bigger o a regular basis.
She’s also frail with weak bones and not lots of muscle tone. A 190 lb adolescent and a 190 lb senior citizen are two different scenarios. Your weight doesn’t necessarily indicate how heavy you are. It’s your bone density, muscle, along with fat and a bunch of other factors

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Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying someone randomly noticed that Nancy wasn’t online watching church and called her daughter to go check on her?

Np here, but sure that could happen. I’m sure someone monitors who is online and it would be very noticeable if someone wasn’t there.

I heard about a family who k ew something was wrong with an older relative because they had not posted in the Wordle group chat that day. Lots of older people have very consistent schedules.

I think her church said they aren't set-up to track online attendees. Sounds like the version they gave police isn't panning out

Right - they mentioned a church friend alerted them that Nancy didn’t attend. How did Nancy’s friend have Annie’s number? Which friend? Cell records are easily obtainable.

They messed up by using that as their reason

This just doesn't seem that odd to me. She isn't Catholic and doens't go to a huge mass. She goes to services at a smaller protestant church, I think, and is very religious-- it doesn't surprise me that there would be a community of older women that expects to see each other online at services and gets concerned if they don't see the regular crew online and texting the daughter to check on her mom just seems very normal to me. But I agree that it's easily verifiable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying someone randomly noticed that Nancy wasn’t online watching church and called her daughter to go check on her?

Np here, but sure that could happen. I’m sure someone monitors who is online and it would be very noticeable if someone wasn’t there.

I heard about a family who k ew something was wrong with an older relative because they had not posted in the Wordle group chat that day. Lots of older people have very consistent schedules.

I think her church said they aren't set-up to track online attendees. Sounds like the version they gave police isn't panning out

Right - they mentioned a church friend alerted them that Nancy didn’t attend. How did Nancy’s friend have Annie’s number? Which friend? Cell records are easily obtainable.

They messed up by using that as their reason

Yes, that's the whole point!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying someone randomly noticed that Nancy wasn’t online watching church and called her daughter to go check on her?

Np here, but sure that could happen. I’m sure someone monitors who is online and it would be very noticeable if someone wasn’t there.

I heard about a family who k ew something was wrong with an older relative because they had not posted in the Wordle group chat that day. Lots of older people have very consistent schedules.

I think her church said they aren't set-up to track online attendees. Sounds like the version they gave police isn't panning out

Right - they mentioned a church friend alerted them that Nancy didn’t attend. How did Nancy’s friend have Annie’s number? Which friend? Cell records are easily obtainable.

They messed up by using that as their reason

This just doesn't seem that odd to me. She isn't Catholic and doens't go to a huge mass. She goes to services at a smaller protestant church, I think, and is very religious-- it doesn't surprise me that there would be a community of older women that expects to see each other online at services and gets concerned if they don't see the regular crew online and texting the daughter to check on her mom just seems very normal to me. But I agree that it's easily verifiable.

The authorities aren't going to tell us it did not check out. But it sounds like they know now their statements aren't adding up.

[Anonymous]

I found another leak, Annie and Tomasso asked Nancy for money a month ago and she denied their request.

[Anonymous]

The septic tank and ring camera are male clues a family member or someone familiar with the house did it. Only someone familiar with the home would know Nancy didn’t have a ring subscription so any video surveillance wouldn’t save. A group of burglars wouldn’t know that.

They also wouldn’t be pacing around in the yard in the middle of the night attempting to find the septic tank.

This was done by someone already familiar with Nancy’s home -whether it’s a family member or worker

[Anonymous]

Major clues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I followed this so closely and now I wish it would disappear from the news until we have answers. My computer cookies must be feeding me a ton of news about her. It's all so disturbing and I can't look away.

I also want it to go away. It has nothing to do with any of us. They know none of us can find her or help her. It’s not like this is a missing woman who wandered off and the public can be on the lookout to help. Whoever has her captive is for law enforcement and the Guthrie to figure out and handle. Nobody else’s elderly loved ones are at this kind of risk so it’s not even a public interest story. It’s weird and creepy and bizarre and we don’t need more info.

[Anonymous]

The fact that authorities spent such a significant amount of time there yesterday (at Annie’s house), I am thinking that someone in their home may be a potential suspect.
I guess only time will tell.

Today at 5p, the second ransom notes offer will expire.

[Anonymous]

I do not think she is alive right now. 💔💔💔
It has been almost 8 days that she has been without her important meds and her pacemaker.
It would be impossible for her to go without these two things for eight days truthfully.

And I am pretty sure Savannah & her two siblings knew this when they posted their last video just a few days ago.
Savannah’s wording was vital in that she stated that she wants her Mother returned so that they could “celebrate.”

Key word is celebrate.
People usually use this term when discussing a promotion or a birthday - never when someone abducted is returned home.

The term celebrate is often used in context of looking back at one’s life after they are no longer alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I found another leak, Annie and Tomasso asked Nancy for money a month ago and she denied their request.

Where is this substantiated?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I followed this so closely and now I wish it would disappear from the news until we have answers. My computer cookies must be feeding me a ton of news about her. It's all so disturbing and I can't look away.

I also want it to go away. It has nothing to do with any of us. They know none of us can find her or help her. It’s not like this is a missing woman who wandered off and the public can be on the lookout to help. Whoever has her captive is for law enforcement and the Guthrie to figure out and handle. Nobody else’s elderly loved ones are at this kind of risk so it’s not even a public interest story. It’s weird and creepy and bizarre and we don’t need more info.

Well, I don’t disagree with you but unfortunately, you’re probably going to have to just buckle in. That’s how these things go. I didn’t follow the Karen Reid case but a lot of the content creators and podcasts that I listened to did so I felt like that just was not going away for months and months.

I actually may at some point revisit it if there’s a good documentary that comes out or something, but I just didn’t have the bandwidth at the time and I remember thinking gosh the story will never go away. I just recommend not clicking on anything related to the story and that at least helps your algorithm.