So was QEII kind of an idiot?

Anonymous
Looking back she just had terrible instincts with the following three things;

1. Prince Andrew- hard to imagine that having been handled worse. Should’ve done what they eventually did with the titles etc years ago. No stupid interview full of lies, no dragging the story out.

2. Princess Diana’s death as show in the Queen

3. Sussexit - saying no half in/out thing was so stupid because everything Harry does will always be associated with the BRF because of who his parents are/were. Doing a half in/out approach could have allowed more control over what they did.
Anonymous
None of their IQs break the bank. She got a pass for being a bit normal after the Abdication etc. But no indication she was some sort of genius.
Anonymous
The lady was a monarch and a mother, wife, and sister to a bunch of people whose lives were warped by an accident of birth.

Her whole life was changed by her uncle's terrible taste in women.

I think she didn't want to invade every shred of privacy her family had to find out "the truth".

A lot of them have been photographed naked for one reason or another. Charles, Harry, Kate up top due to sunbathing (from a road a really long way away).

I'd still give the woman a pass. How many adult men are going to share intimate details of their love lives with their mother?
Anonymous
The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.



Geography over there is the equivalent of Political Philosophy / Political Theory / International Relations over here, btw
Anonymous
I think her decisions on those three subjects (Andrew, Diana, H&M) were not great and in hindsight, were not the best, but most people don’t make the best decisions when dealing with a predatory son, a tragedy with your DIL and your whiny/bratty grandson.

It’s awful she didn’t do more on Andrew, but I feel like most parents with predatory sons don’t do more either - we just don’t scrutinize them because they aren’t public figures.
Anonymous
Andrew was her favorite and she let that lead her poor decision making. The monarchy and strong personal relationships are impossible things to mesh. You need to choose which one to support first. Sometimes those lines are to maintain.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.




Kate can barely talk, what are you going on about? Several of her classmates said she cheated her way through St. Andrews, and she's never used her degree. Then there are her gems, like, "can you smell the smell by smelling it?"

And my grandmother got into Cambridge after failing her math exam, so there's that. All it takes is connections. Do you think any school or university in the world was going to turn down Prince William, or flunk him after they took him?
Anonymous
I have some sympathy for the late Queen, because she was from a much earlier generation. (But don't get me started on the extremely lazy, and yes dumb, and also surprisingly cruel, Wales couple.)

The late Queen may have sincerely thought that keeping the boys in Scotland for a week was best for them. The public's "need" to see them didn't outweigh their own mental health (although Charles definitely fell short on getting them help through Diana's death).

I agree, she had terrible instincts about Andrew. Yes, she died before the Epstein files came out and showed just how implicated Andrew was. But she did know about the pics of Andrew and Epstein in NYC after he supposedly cut ties, and still she let him continue with his fancy titles and digs.
Anonymous
It sounds like she was overruled by William and the courtiers on the Harry work issue. In particular, a specific senior courtier William and Charles put in place when the Queen was declining in health. Harry wrote about going into the "Sandringham summit" thinking there were still several work options on the table, only to find this particular senior courtier (I'm forgetting his name) had only printed out documents for the "the Sussexes are completely out starting immediately" option.

The late Queen was clear that she wanted Harry and Meghan to keep their security, and also to keep their cottage. Charles and William pulled both of those back almost instantly. What else did the late Queen want for the Sussexes, that William and Charles overruled?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.



Geography over there is the equivalent of Political Philosophy / Political Theory / International Relations over here, btw


Um, no it's not. William famously wanted to drop out of college because he was struggling with his initial degree path in Art History. Someone (probably Charles, although some tabloids want you to think it was grasping Kate) persuaded him to stay on for the much easier Geography degree.
Anonymous
The Royal Family has an average IQ, with some members having more issues than others. Kate is probably more intelligent than her in-laws.

People with average IQs who do not have a professional entourage rarely do well in the spotlight. The celebrities who know how to respond gracefully to public interest and handle crises wisely in the public eye actually are very intelligent, both emotionally and in terms of cognitive reasoning. It seems like they're normal, because they like to project that image, but they are anything but!

This is why the British Royals have a court, with career specialists who advise and guide them in their behaviors and responses. Andrew was too dumb, entitled and impulsive to take guidance. The others are doing their best.

Anonymous
Related question, prompted by the lie that a Geography degree is on par with Poly Sci:

Why are Kate and William's biggest fans on DCUM always such shameless liars?
Anonymous
If the Crown is to be believed, and it’s apparently fairly accurate:
She barely had an education and sought out extra tutoring once it was clear she would be queen
“the Palace” controls everything and the royals themselves don’t have much control.
Anonymous
QEII also told Charles to stop seeing Camilla and save his marriage.

He never made any attempt to have a marriage, not even from day 1.

They were surprised Diana expected it to be a real marriage.

Shame on “the firm” degrading Diana’s reputation so that the public would accept Camilla.

I do believe in later years QEII had little say in how to handle Harry and Meghan. Meghan probably was the best addition for the family in decades. Which was part of the problem. She outshined Kate.
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