So was QEII kind of an idiot?

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Anonymous wrote:Look at what happened to every other royal family in the 20th century and it’s amazing that QE2 managed to do so well in finding a lane and sticking to it.

I don’t think she was particularly bright but she was dedicated and persistent. And anyone who ruled for 50 years is going yo have a few mis steps. She didn’t have great perspective on her kids (including not understanding that diana was much more sympathetic than Charles) but that’s pretty common for moms. I think if she was younger she would have been able to manage the harry William problem better. She was very good at keeping a lid on drama and in her younger days probably would have been able to sit everyone down and tell them to suck it up.

I also think Meghan was dumb not to just wait out all th drama. The press would have gotten bored eventually if she just grey rocked the whole situation and she would eventually have been a boring middle aged princess with kids at Oxford or whatever. She let the press pull her off course. I guess maybe she likes her new life better though—who knows.

I also think if she put her head down the press would have gotten bored eventually. But it does sound like she was having a mental health crisis and truly wasn't able to do that. When it all calmed down, I think they should have nixed Spare and Oprah, but I also think they were both in a terrible headspace. I don't know, I hope the same thing that I would hope for any family: eventual reconciliation. Even if they like their life, I'm sure they don't like the current relationship with Harry's family, and maybe even her dad as well.

Agree they should have avoided Spare and Oprah. But also I get the impulse to correct the record, for example by saying, no Meghan didn't bully Kate over her wedding, in fact it was the other way around. Some of the bullying clearly came from the palaces, like that twisted bridesmaids' dresses story, and Harry and Meghan must have been in a terrible headspace knowing their family was behind a lot of it.

I dunno, were they right to correct the record? Or maybe just do Spare and skip Oprah, or something, or something less full-frontal.

Yeah maybe correct the record in the press (but no book or Oprah), but not throw fuel on the fire by adding additional stories that nobody knew about. I also think Meagan should have sucked it up and not told the Kate story. I don't believe Kate was behind any leaked stories. I would have left her out of it, for the sake of a future relationship. I think she should have taken her lumps on that one story.

One can endlessly debate the M & H story. But what gets me is that I just don't know what she was thinking marrying into that family. I mean, know thyself. And if that kind of thing is going to upset you, it seems really obvious that this is not the role for you. It's like running for President or something -- people are going to come for you in all sorts of nasty ways and you have to have the mindset to just ignore all of that, or you don't do it. The press tore Margaret apart in the 1950s and 1960s even, and that was back when the press was relatively tame. I just don't know what she was thinking. You either go into it knowing that you're going to get really hazed and you need to just block it all out, or you don't go into it at all. The press was really, really awful to Diana in the 1980s, but at some point flipped and then decided to laud her. That might have happened with M, but it's hard to say. They go up and down with Kate as well.

I feel like if the queen had been younger and more on top of things, maybe she could have seen the train wreck coming and tried to provide different support or guidance. She clearly loved Harry and i think would have wanted to find a way to smooth the waters, since that was her usual M.O. They all just come across as nest of vipers without her -- William hates Harry, Charles hates Andrew, etc. Edward seems to stay totally under the radar -- good for him!

I think Meghan knew the press would come for her but didn’t realize how the British media ecosystem differs from the American one. She has media training and in the United States even extremely unlikable people like the Kardashians and Lauren Sanchez have the opportunity to present their side. But with the royal rota the lower royals aren’t able to defend themselves and the ones that do rehab their image, like Camilla has done somewhat, do so by feeding stories to
the press on lower ranked royals.

I think Meagan is pretty unlikable but she didn't deserve the wollop she got in the press. Nobody does.

As a separate matter, I'm pretty sure they are paying for their own security but the Australian police are supplementing at certain events, which I assume would happen for any celebrity at their level. And I also assume the police presence is beneficial for other people attending these events.

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Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.

Ummm

Are you aware of who he married???

Academically accomplished? I want what you’re smoking 😂

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Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.

Ummm

Are you aware of who he married???

Academically accomplished? I want what you’re smoking 😂

NP. I think most people consider someone who has a university degree "academically accomplished". And it sounds like Catherine got decent grades at secondary school as well as attending & graduating from a good university. DCUM strikes me as a lot more intense than many environments regarding what universities, GPAs, degrees, etc. "count" as accomplishments. I agree with the first quoted poster on this question.

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Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.

Ummm

Are you aware of who he married???

Academically accomplished? I want what you’re smoking 😂

NP. I think most people consider someone who has a university degree "academically accomplished". And it sounds like Catherine got decent grades at secondary school as well as attending & graduating from a good university. DCUM strikes me as a lot more intense than many environments regarding what universities, GPAs, degrees, etc. "count" as accomplishments. I agree with the first quoted poster on this question.

DP. I guess I'd be more persuaded if she actually used her degrees or her intelligence. Her four "Seasons" videos last year were an abyss of patronizing word salads. Possibly I'm just disappointed that she and William rarely leave their mansions more than once a week for "Thursdays at Work" when they do barista cosplay.

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Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.

Ummm

Are you aware of who he married???

Academically accomplished? I want what you’re smoking 😂

NP. I think most people consider someone who has a university degree "academically accomplished". And it sounds like Catherine got decent grades at secondary school as well as attending & graduating from a good university. DCUM strikes me as a lot more intense than many environments regarding what universities, GPAs, degrees, etc. "count" as accomplishments. I agree with the first quoted poster on this question.

DP. I guess I'd be more persuaded if she actually used her degrees or her intelligence. Her four "Seasons" videos last year were an abyss of patronizing word salads. Possibly I'm just disappointed that she and William rarely leave their mansions more than once a week for "Thursdays at Work" when they do barista cosplay.

That is your obsession, which you have repeated ad nauseum on DCUM for many years.

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Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.

Ummm

Are you aware of who he married???

Academically accomplished? I want what you’re smoking 😂

NP. I think most people consider someone who has a university degree "academically accomplished". And it sounds like Catherine got decent grades at secondary school as well as attending & graduating from a good university. DCUM strikes me as a lot more intense than many environments regarding what universities, GPAs, degrees, etc. "count" as accomplishments. I agree with the first quoted poster on this question.

DP. I guess I'd be more persuaded if she actually used her degrees or her intelligence. Her four "Seasons" videos last year were an abyss of patronizing word salads. Possibly I'm just disappointed that she and William rarely leave their mansions more than once a week for "Thursdays at Work" when they do barista cosplay.

That is your obsession, which you have repeated ad nauseum on DCUM for many years.

So now it’s “obsession” to expect William and Kate to leave the house more than once a week, at least when they’re not on one of their 7-8 luxury international vacations each year, in return for the £24m/year they receive—funds that could otherwise be used for education or healthcare?

Honey. I want the monarchy to succeed through the end of the 21st century. Not quite sure why I feel this way (I like the ceremony? Nostalgia?) and maybe not quite in its current state. But I worry these clowns, the present generations, are going to remove every last excuse for tanking it.

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Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.

Ummm

Are you aware of who he married???

Academically accomplished? I want what you’re smoking 😂

NP. I think most people consider someone who has a university degree "academically accomplished". And it sounds like Catherine got decent grades at secondary school as well as attending & graduating from a good university. DCUM strikes me as a lot more intense than many environments regarding what universities, GPAs, degrees, etc. "count" as accomplishments. I agree with the first quoted poster on this question.

DP. I guess I'd be more persuaded if she actually used her degrees or her intelligence. Her four "Seasons" videos last year were an abyss of patronizing word salads. Possibly I'm just disappointed that she and William rarely leave their mansions more than once a week for "Thursdays at Work" when they do barista cosplay.

That is your obsession, which you have repeated ad nauseum on DCUM for many years.

So now it’s “obsession” to expect William and Kate to leave the house more than once a week, at least when they’re not on one of their 7-8 luxury international vacations each year, in return for the £24m/year they receive—funds that could otherwise be used for education or healthcare?

Honey. I want the monarchy to succeed through the end of the 21st century. Not quite sure why I feel this way (I like the ceremony? Nostalgia?) and maybe not quite in its current state. But I worry these clowns, the present generations, are going to remove every last excuse for tanking it.

Kate had cancer until recently, and she or William reportedly drop their 3 kids at school daily. They don't care what some dope on DCUM with too much time on their hands thinks of their schedule. If they screw up their kids, not much else that they do matters much.

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The Waleses are wrapping up a 3 1/2-week vacation this week. Their 3rd or 4th vacation so far this year.

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Anonymous wrote:The best thing Prince William did was marrying someone who is intelligent and academically accomplished. It seems strange there hadn't been more of an emphasis on finding smarter spouses.

In Great Britain at around age 16 student took O-Levels (Ordinary Levels) exams, which are now called GCSEs in the UK. The US Equivalent would be exams in 10th Grade (Sophomore year).

Then students specialize and take A Level Exams two years later A-Levels (Advanced Levels) at age 18 (what you just did). Students usually pick only 3 or 4 subjects and study them in massive depth. A bit like Advanced Placement (AP) classes here.

Princess Diana failed every single O level exam she attempted - twice.

Prince Charles earned 2 A-levels, including a B in History and a C in French.

Prince Harry A-level results included a B in art and a D in geography. (His Art teacher alleges he cheated on his art A-level and didn't really do much of the written work involved.)

Prince William achieved three A-levels, including an A in geography, an A in history of art and a C in biology.

In comparison Princess Kate earned two As at A level in Maths and Art, and a B in English.

Ummm

Are you aware of who he married???

Academically accomplished? I want what you’re smoking 😂

NP. I think most people consider someone who has a university degree "academically accomplished". And it sounds like Catherine got decent grades at secondary school as well as attending & graduating from a good university. DCUM strikes me as a lot more intense than many environments regarding what universities, GPAs, degrees, etc. "count" as accomplishments. I agree with the first quoted poster on this question.

DP. I guess I'd be more persuaded if she actually used her degrees or her intelligence. Her four "Seasons" videos last year were an abyss of patronizing word salads. Possibly I'm just disappointed that she and William rarely leave their mansions more than once a week for "Thursdays at Work" when they do barista cosplay.

That is your obsession, which you have repeated ad nauseum on DCUM for many years.

So now it’s “obsession” to expect William and Kate to leave the house more than once a week, at least when they’re not on one of their 7-8 luxury international vacations each year, in return for the £24m/year they receive—funds that could otherwise be used for education or healthcare?

Honey. I want the monarchy to succeed through the end of the 21st century. Not quite sure why I feel this way (I like the ceremony? Nostalgia?) and maybe not quite in its current state. But I worry these clowns, the present generations, are going to remove every last excuse for tanking it.

Kate had cancer until recently, and she or William reportedly drop their 3 kids at school daily. They don't care what some dope on DCUM with too much time on their hands thinks of their schedule. If they screw up their kids, not much else that they do matters much.

Kate said in March 2024 that cancer had been present and told us she had finished treatment and was “cancer-free” in that September 2024 video. It’s been 1 1/2 years. And what’s William’s excuse?

William even admitted he doesn’t do many school runs, and others say neither does them apart from photo ops like 1st day of school.

I’m sure it means a lot to those grifters that some dope on DCUM is totally down with their laziness. You don’t get the risk. Just don’t come crying back on DCUM when the British public decides they’re done paying for it.

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The Republic movement really seems to be growing in Britain. Polls show over 30% of Brits are OK with getting rid of the monarchy, which is a huge increase since the Queen’s death. If they don’t deal with Andrew convincingly, and if William and Kate don’t get off their a$$es, it’s only going to get worse.

Moaning about people being mean to Kate who had cancer two years ago isn’t going to fix this.

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Anonymous wrote:The Republic movement really seems to be growing in Britain. Polls show over 30% of Brits are OK with getting rid of the monarchy, which is a huge increase since the Queen’s death. If they don’t deal with Andrew convincingly, and if William and Kate don’t get off their a$$es, it’s only going to get worse.

Moaning about people being mean to Kate who had cancer two years ago isn’t going to fix this.

I'm sure the RF is aware their time may be ticking. And they have such vast personal wealth, they may not care. Honestly, it would probably be a lifestyle improvement for them.

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Anonymous wrote:The Republic movement really seems to be growing in Britain. Polls show over 30% of Brits are OK with getting rid of the monarchy, which is a huge increase since the Queen’s death. If they don’t deal with Andrew convincingly, and if William and Kate don’t get off their a$$es, it’s only going to get worse.

Moaning about people being mean to Kate who had cancer two years ago isn’t going to fix this.

I'm sure the RF is aware their time may be ticking. And they have such vast personal wealth, they may not care. Honestly, it would probably be a lifestyle improvement for them.

You could well be right. I've seen several commentators saying that Kate and Willy just want to be country aristocrats like their friends, and screw all this stuff about cutting ribbons and attending VJ Day.

Even if Britain reclaims the duchies--and the BRF's legal claim to the duchies is actually pretty sus--they still have vast privately-owned estates like Balmoral and Sandringham, and it's already been shown they have assets stowed away in tax havens. They'd do fine.

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Anonymous wrote:The lady was a monarch and a mother, wife, and sister to a bunch of people whose lives were warped by an accident of birth.

Her whole life was changed by her uncle's terrible taste in women.

I think she didn't want to invade every shred of privacy her family had to find out "the truth".

A lot of them have been photographed naked for one reason or another. Charles, Harry, Kate up top due to sunbathing (from a road a really long way away).

I'd still give the woman a pass. How many adult men are going to share intimate details of their love lives with their mother?

You don't know much about the history do you? Why would you say that Wallis Simpson is a terrible woman? Facts, please

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Anonymous wrote:Elizabeth became Queen in 1952. She was good for her time as Britain was navigating the end of its Empire. But she clearly didn't have a feel for the Zeitgest. Her instincts were wrong about the death of Diana. And her sons, including the current king, are pompous twits. Andrew belongs in jail. And Charles just wants to oversee all his gardeners on all his estates rather than be a king. Harry is a failure. And William would rather be anywhere else than be part of the English monarchy. The UK really needs to have a think and decide if they want to continue to spend hundreds of millions supporting this family.

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These comments make for a very good netflix show but, you have no proof of anything.

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Anonymous wrote:The late Queen and her sister were barely educated. I am sure they learned dinner party chat/ manners. Their social class was not brought up to have careers.

And your source is??? Maybe Margaret but, surely the Queen's education was better