MLS Next Quality of Play scores make no sense

[Anonymous]

Taka's quality of play scores lately seem to have little to no correlation with game results. Does anyone actually understand how they calculate their scores?

For example: in the U14 division, Alexandria has 38 points in 19 games, they have 3 losses and 1 tie in their last 4 games and yet they have gone up in QoP to #2 in the division. Baltimore Armour has 45 points in 18 games, they've won their last 7 games and they're 9th in QoP.

Philly Union (16 goals allowed) has a worse defensive QoP than Achilles (70 goals allowed). The team with the fewest goals allowed (Armour, 9 goals in 18 games) is 5th in defensive QoP.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think there has ever been much correlation between game results and QofP. It’s the way the team plays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taka's quality of play scores lately seem to have little to no correlation with game results. Does anyone actually understand how they calculate their scores?

For example: in the U14 division, Alexandria has 38 points in 19 games, they have 3 losses and 1 tie in their last 4 games and yet they have gone up in QoP to #2 in the division. Baltimore Armour has 45 points in 18 games, they've won their last 7 games and they're 9th in QoP.

Philly Union (16 goals allowed) has a worse defensive QoP than Achilles (70 goals allowed). The team with the fewest goals allowed (Armour, 9 goals in 18 games) is 5th in defensive QoP.

Yeah, you’re American so you won’t understand it. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

I dont knock that they are trying to take the emphasis away from winning at the younger ages. But they claim to have human scorers, who then get to decide if teams are playing the "right" way. Seems highly subjective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taka's quality of play scores lately seem to have little to no correlation with game results. Does anyone actually understand how they calculate their scores?

For example: in the U14 division, Alexandria has 38 points in 19 games, they have 3 losses and 1 tie in their last 4 games and yet they have gone up in QoP to #2 in the division. Baltimore Armour has 45 points in 18 games, they've won their last 7 games and they're 9th in QoP.

Philly Union (16 goals allowed) has a worse defensive QoP than Achilles (70 goals allowed). The team with the fewest goals allowed (Armour, 9 goals in 18 games) is 5th in defensive QoP.

No kidding, they tell you it won’t and then you’re surprised. 😳

[Anonymous]

There is an app called Rankings in the app store that takes more into account the wins. For example, U14 Baltimore Armour is ranked Team #27, Offense #56 and Defense #16 in the nation. #1 in the state. Alexandria #50, SYC #28 amd Bethesda #77.

I get the argument for Quality of Play. It makes sense. Nothing beats watching a team play beautifully with ball possession, creating space, building up, and winning just comes naturally as a result. Just look at Belgium and how they crushed us in the friendly game. We looked like a third division team from the Bundesliga. Yes, unfortunately or fortunately we need Quality of Play (lots of it in youth) in our country if we expect to develop world class players.

[Anonymous]

All the comments after the OP completely missing the point.

[Anonymous]

The scoring system seems to be top secret. Which makes the scores pretty useless to the teams trying to improve how they play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the comments after the OP completely missing the point.

Just do a search on Taka here. It was discussed back then. Articles were linked with interviews about how it all works.

I had high hopes that QofP would encourage clubs to teach possession based, creative soccer but it’s been a real disappointment. Many of those higher ranked teams can barely string a handful of passes together. Few have players that standout or display mastery on the ball although I assume many of them are technically competent. Just really boring soccer. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

QOP seems to be more a reflection on the club/coaching style.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Philly Union (16 goals allowed) has a worse defensive QoP than Achilles (70 goals allowed).

Any model that says that Achilles has a better defensive quality of play than Philly Union is wrong.

[Anonymous]

The MLS Next Cup qualifiers should be based on league standings rather than QoP. Every team would know what they need to do to qualify, and teams with poor results but high quality of play could still be proud of their development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taka's quality of play scores lately seem to have little to no correlation with game results. Does anyone actually understand how they calculate their scores?

For example: in the U14 division, Alexandria has 38 points in 19 games, they have 3 losses and 1 tie in their last 4 games and yet they have gone up in QoP to #2 in the division. Baltimore Armour has 45 points in 18 games, they've won their last 7 games and they're 9th in QoP.

Philly Union (16 goals allowed) has a worse defensive QoP than Achilles (70 goals allowed). The team with the fewest goals allowed (Armour, 9 goals in 18 games) is 5th in defensive QoP.

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Learn about the game and you will know when kids are playing well and executing game actions that translate to a higher level. Taka is a pacifier to American parents trying to get you to STFU and learn the game and how development happens. They knew if they pulled the rankings and scoreboards, parents would lose their 💩

Grow up or go to lacrosse and keep score.

[Anonymous]

Except there is still winning and losing- the winners of the QOP scoring advance to MLS Next Cup. But nobody is really quite sure what they are actually being scored on. Hence OP's original question.

[Anonymous]

Nothing like a discussion over a system, process and technology when less the 1% of the participants understand how it all works