Josh Duggar arrested and in federal custody

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Anonymous wrote:Subway sandwich guy got 15 years in prison via a plea deal. But he was facing child pornography AND child sex tourism charges.

I’m still trying to figure out why Josh opted to go to trial. It was a mistake, and he’s going to have decades in prison to think it over.

Hubris?

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Anonymous wrote:Josh Duggar #7 came into the world on October 23rd. Its a girl. Pray for the child.

Madyson Lily.

They will be reminded of Ashley Madison for the rest of their lives.

I can’t imagine how much denial Anna must be in to name her child after an adultery website that her husband used. It’s incomprehensible.

I'm guessing she probably didn't have a say in what to name her kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The hidden side of his computer had the same passwords used for his bank account, and his FRC email.

They are foolish to think going to trial is a good idea. Once the jury sees what’s on those videos, they’re going to want to personally string him up from the rafters. What are his lawyers thinking? Why didn’t he take a plea?

We don't know that his lawyers thought that going to trial was "a good idea." We only know that he didn't plead guilty. His lawyers can't force him to take a plea. They are limited to recommending a plea and possibly moving to withdraw from representing him if they have grounds to support a withdrawal at that stage.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus! I didn’t know the details of what he did to his sisters when he was a teen. It’s bad. I know he’s not on trial for that though obviously - will the court allow those details in the trial?

I’m no defender of josh but he was underage (12 yrs old the first time) when he first did what he did to his sisters. He was a child and I think his parents and church community clearly failed him when he asked for help. Now this is no surprise. I find that sad.

This made me pause, because you’re right. There are accounts of josh admitting/ confessing what he had done to the adult in charge more than once- it sounded like he told Bobye what he had done without any prompting, and it sounds like he freely admitted the thing with his sisters to his parents. He was crying out for help. And didn’t get it. And now he is this monster , when he probably didn’t want to be.

I'm pretty sure the sisters snitched on him first, and then he confessed. Who knows what would have happened if the sister (presumably Jill) never spoke up about it.

Imo it doesn’t matter if sister snitched. He was still a child who was failed by the adults in his life. It was an adult’s responsibility to get him help. You say who knows what would have happened if jill hadn’t spoken up but she did and pretty much the worst thing did happen.

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They did help him. According to their faith values. They sent him to Christian rehabilitation camp.

For three months in 2003, Josh was sent to the Institute in Basic Life Principles Training Center in Little Rock, Arkansas

Sarcasm? I don’t consider that real help. You can’t pray this sort of thing away.

It must be, esp. if PP has read anything about the "Basic Life Principles" institute.

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Anonymous wrote:The gallery in the courtroom couldn’t see the videos. The jury did see them, and I feel awful for the impact that is going to have on them.

This is what I've been thinking about--not something they will ever be able to un-see and stop thinking about. I've only read very generalized descriptions and it's something I wish I didn't hear. I can't even imagine what they are dealing with.

Yeah - these jurors deserve extra gratitude from the citizenry for viewing this. It will mark their souls.

It’s not that I’m so naive as to think this stuff didn’t happen pre-computers, but in this regard, the internet has been nothing but a blight on the world. It has made it so much easier for these criminals and so, so much harder at every level for people who have to view it - law enforcement, even your friendly computer security people at work and, most importantly, the victims who become more numerous to feed the insatiable demand. It’s horrifying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Subway sandwich guy got 15 years in prison via a plea deal. But he was facing child pornography AND child sex tourism charges.

I’m still trying to figure out why Josh opted to go to trial. It was a mistake, and he’s going to have decades in prison to think it over.

Hubris?

If the evidence is as bad as described, there's an argument to be made that you aren't any worse off going to jury trial and hoping for something to go wrong. We don't know what sort of plea deal was offered. If the prosecutor was unwilling to budge on sentencing recommendations this might have been the thinking.

And if you go to trial, there's a trial record you can rely on for appeal. Not so if you take a plea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PLEASE do NOT post details about any of this material. This thread is not marked with a trigger warning. Many people are following who don’t want to know those hellish details.

+10000

PLEASE DO NOT

I think the fact that this is a thread about the trial of a pedophile IS the trigger warning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PLEASE do NOT post details about any of this material. This thread is not marked with a trigger warning. Many people are following who don’t want to know those hellish details.

+10000

PLEASE DO NOT

I think the fact that this is a thread about the trial of a pedophile IS the trigger warning.

It didn’t start that way since the thread started with him in federal custody without knowing what the charges and eventual trial were going to be about. But at this point everyone knows what he’s on trial for and should be well aware of what they’re clicking on. That being said, what good comes from posting the specific details??

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The specific details are out there (The Sun, a UK tabloid, is covering the trial pretty extensively) if you really want to know. But I think they should probably be kept out of this thread. Don’t want it to get locked or posts deleted.

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I don’t see many updates from today? Links?

Not Reddit.

[Anonymous]

On Duggar topic but not about Josh. I kind of guffawed at this tweet from Derrick Dillard, approved by Jill.

"We court and get married super young because...we want to have sex."

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/r8ektr/that_time_when_derrick_told_it_like_it_is_and/

Literally that simple, though like many Reddit commenters I was raised a godless heathen and somehow "waited" longer than they did by getting married at 17.

Jill's got to be testifying for the prosecution, right? Her husband went to law school specifically hoping to sue the shit out of Jim Bob for the royalties she was never given.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I got an answer, from a journalist. If anyone wants to see her reporting, she can be found here: https://youtube.com/c/WithoutACrystalBall

The DD video was fragmented, and was not viewable, but after the evidence that came out yesterday, the reporting is going to stop saying “kids as young as 7,” as that is not accurate. If you want to hear why, feel free to watch yesterday’s coverage of what happened in court. He tried to blame two close friends, who weren’t at the dealership when it was downloaded. Also, the feds found Josh’s name and address in the partitioned side of the computer.

I’m fairly confident he will be spending decades in federal prison. His enabling family members can rot in hell. It’s obvious they don’t care about girls.

The person in the above link is not a journalist. More like a plagiarist and liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I got an answer, from a journalist. If anyone wants to see her reporting, she can be found here: https://youtube.com/c/ WithoutACrystalBall

The DD video was fragmented, and was not viewable, but after the evidence that came out yesterday, the reporting is going to stop saying “kids as young as 7,” as that is not accurate. If you want to hear why, feel free to watch yesterday’s coverage of what happened in court. He tried to blame two close friends, who weren’t at the dealership when it was downloaded. Also, the feds found Josh’s name and address in the partitioned side of the computer.

I’m fairly confident he will be spending decades in federal prison. His enabling family members can rot in hell. It’s obvious they don’t care about girls.

NP. This hack is NOT a journalist!! Breaking the link in the quote, to not inadvertently drive more clicks to her "reporting".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PLEASE do NOT post details about any of this material. This thread is not marked with a trigger warning. Many people are following who don’t want to know those hellish details.

+10000

PLEASE DO NOT

I think the fact that this is a thread about the trial of a pedophile IS the trigger warning.

It didn’t start that way since the thread started with him in federal custody without knowing what the charges and eventual trial were going to be about. But at this point everyone knows what he’s on trial for and should be well aware of what they’re clicking on. That being said, what good comes from posting the specific details??

Can Jeff lock this thread and start another with a trigger warning in the title?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PLEASE do NOT post details about any of this material. This thread is not marked with a trigger warning. Many people are following who don’t want to know those hellish details.

+10000

PLEASE DO NOT

I think the fact that this is a thread about the trial of a pedophile IS the trigger warning.

It didn’t start that way since the thread started with him in federal custody without knowing what the charges and eventual trial were going to be about. But at this point everyone knows what he’s on trial for and should be well aware of what they’re clicking on. That being said, what good comes from posting the specific details??

Can Jeff lock this thread and start another with a trigger warning in the title?

DP, I don't understand why people would click on this thread if they're easily triggered by this kind of stuff. We all know about Josh Duggar's history, and the charges. They're sickening obviously, but a "trigger warning" isn't necessary. Take some personal accountability and stop reading.