APS Closing Nottingham

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question— Nottingham is about the same size as Randolph, Long Branch, Drew, MPSA, and Campbell. I know that list includes option schools, but why does this board talk about Nottingham like it’s some kind of wild outlier?

Are you talking about capacity or enrollment?

PP must be talking about overall enrollment, not realizing that the other schools are in smaller sized buildings, the enrollment is spread out between grade levels more evenly, that they’re in areas with new high density (CAF) housing that always brings ES kids in the pipeline, and that they’re surrounded by more crowded schools and will likely be “filled” during the ES boundary process. So, not the same at all.

How many other APS elementary buildings are smaller than Nottingham? It's capacity is quite small.

The PP should provide enrollment *and* capacity numbers for those six schools if she wants to discuss "size".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question— Nottingham is about the same size as Randolph, Long Branch, Drew, MPSA, and Campbell. I know that list includes option schools, but why does this board talk about Nottingham like it’s some kind of wild outlier?

Are you talking about capacity or enrollment?

PP must be talking about overall enrollment, not realizing that the other schools are in smaller sized buildings, the enrollment is spread out between grade levels more evenly, that they’re in areas with new high density (CAF) housing that always brings ES kids in the pipeline, and that they’re surrounded by more crowded schools and will likely be “filled” during the ES boundary process. So, not the same at all.

How many other APS elementary buildings are smaller than Nottingham? It's capacity is quite small.

The PP should provide enrollment *and* capacity numbers for those six schools if she wants to discuss "size".

Not PP but I'm sure you can find it online if you're that interested.

[Anonymous]

So did this come up at the school board meeting this week?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question— Nottingham is about the same size as Randolph, Long Branch, Drew, MPSA, and Campbell. I know that list includes option schools, but why does this board talk about Nottingham like it’s some kind of wild outlier?

Are you talking about capacity or enrollment?

PP must be talking about overall enrollment, not realizing that the other schools are in smaller sized buildings, the enrollment is spread out between grade levels more evenly, that they’re in areas with new high density (CAF) housing that always brings ES kids in the pipeline, and that they’re surrounded by more crowded schools and will likely be “filled” during the ES boundary process. So, not the same at all.

How many other APS elementary buildings are smaller than Nottingham? It's capacity is quite small.

The PP should provide enrollment *and* capacity numbers for those six schools if she wants to discuss "size".

Not PP but I'm sure you can find it online if you're that interested.

Yes, I know. I've looked at them extensively in the past.

If PP has a point about "size" she should clarify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So did this come up at the school board meeting this week?

Yes, every speaker during public comment was against closing Nottingham for a variety of reasons. As the format doesn’t allow, no response from the Board.

[Anonymous]

Who else is going to show up for a July meeting??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who else is going to show up for a July meeting??

Exactly! If they care enough to show up at a mid-July meeting, then its clear the affected community is taking it pretty seriously.

[Anonymous]

Eh. Of course the Notties are there. We all know from the boards and the neighborhood list serves and their text chains. But that doesn’t mean anything re: the outcome. The question is what’s best for Arlington. Not Nottingham.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eh. Of course the Notties are there. We all know from the boards and the neighborhood list serves and their text chains. But that doesn’t mean anything re: the outcome. The question is what’s best for Arlington. Not Nottingham.

Sure, and if you actually heard what they were saying last night, they were advocating for more study into this before rushing to close a school. There's basically nothing in the pre-cip to back up this plan other than effectively "trust us."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eh. Of course the Notties are there. We all know from the boards and the neighborhood list serves and their text chains. But that doesn’t mean anything re: the outcome. The question is what’s best for Arlington. Not Nottingham.

Sure, and if you actually heard what they were saying last night, they were advocating for more study into this before rushing to close a school. There's basically nothing in the pre-cip to back up this plan other than effectively "trust us."

Just because the community wasn't in on the planning doesn't mean they haven't studied it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eh. Of course the Notties are there. We all know from the boards and the neighborhood list serves and their text chains. But that doesn’t mean anything re: the outcome. The question is what’s best for Arlington. Not Nottingham.

Sure, and if you actually heard what they were saying last night, they were advocating for more study into this before rushing to close a school. There's basically nothing in the pre-cip to back up this plan other than effectively "trust us."

Just because the community wasn't in on the planning doesn't mean they haven't studied it.

OK that would be great! Let APS show us the studies then! Which schools will use the swing space? For how long? How will they handle extended day? How many busses will be needed and where will they park? I assume then if APS has studied it, they must have completed a traffic study for all the increase in traffic? What will the capacity be at Tuckahoe and Discovery after they absorb Nottingham? Will they need (additional) trailers? What will enrollment be in 2026 and beyond?

[Anonymous]

The Notties are mad. They want studies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eh. Of course the Notties are there. We all know from the boards and the neighborhood list serves and their text chains. But that doesn’t mean anything re: the outcome. The question is what’s best for Arlington. Not Nottingham.

Sure, and if you actually heard what they were saying last night, they were advocating for more study into this before rushing to close a school. There's basically nothing in the pre-cip to back up this plan other than effectively "trust us."

Just because the community wasn't in on the planning doesn't mean they haven't studied it.

OK that would be great! Let APS show us the studies then! Which schools will use the swing space? For how long? How will they handle extended day? How many busses will be needed and where will they park? I assume then if APS has studied it, they must have completed a traffic study for all the increase in traffic? What will the capacity be at Tuckahoe and Discovery after they absorb Nottingham? Will they need (additional) trailers? What will enrollment be in 2026 and beyond?

And when they tell you any of that information you'll scream about how everything they are telling you is wrong or a lie or misguided. Right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eh. Of course the Notties are there. We all know from the boards and the neighborhood list serves and their text chains. But that doesn’t mean anything re: the outcome. The question is what’s best for Arlington. Not Nottingham.

Sure, and if you actually heard what they were saying last night, they were advocating for more study into this before rushing to close a school. There's basically nothing in the pre-cip to back up this plan other than effectively "trust us."

Just because the community wasn't in on the planning doesn't mean they haven't studied it.

OK that would be great! Let APS show us the studies then! Which schools will use the swing space? For how long? How will they handle extended day? How many busses will be needed and where will they park? I assume then if APS has studied it, they must have completed a traffic study for all the increase in traffic? What will the capacity be at Tuckahoe and Discovery after they absorb Nottingham? Will they need (additional) trailers? What will enrollment be in 2026 and beyond?

And when they tell you any of that information you'll scream about how everything they are telling you is wrong or a lie or misguided. Right?

+1. Yep. They will say that APS planning is incompetent and can’t be trusted. They are already saying that. This is not a constructive community. They will just try to put up obstacles so nothing can be done. They prefer no action to help others in the county over their minor inconvenience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eh. Of course the Notties are there. We all know from the boards and the neighborhood list serves and their text chains. But that doesn’t mean anything re: the outcome. The question is what’s best for Arlington. Not Nottingham.

Sure, and if you actually heard what they were saying last night, they were advocating for more study into this before rushing to close a school. There's basically nothing in the pre-cip to back up this plan other than effectively "trust us."

Just because the community wasn't in on the planning doesn't mean they haven't studied it.

OK that would be great! Let APS show us the studies then! Which schools will use the swing space? For how long? How will they handle extended day? How many busses will be needed and where will they park? I assume then if APS has studied it, they must have completed a traffic study for all the increase in traffic? What will the capacity be at Tuckahoe and Discovery after they absorb Nottingham? Will they need (additional) trailers? What will enrollment be in 2026 and beyond?

And when they tell you any of that information you'll scream about how everything they are telling you is wrong or a lie or misguided. Right?

+1. Yep. They will say that APS planning is incompetent and can’t be trusted. They are already saying that. This is not a constructive community. They will just try to put up obstacles so nothing can be done. They prefer no action to help others in the county over their minor inconvenience.

Again with the nonstop hate for people trying to save their walkable, neighborhood school community. How dare they not just roll over and accept this proposal without any APS showing any supporting data!