Fights at Carson

[Anonymous]

Third fight this year but only thing we get a letter about is principal asking kids not to record it. Good grief. What is going on with the messaging. And why are there so many fights?

[Anonymous]

My kid is at Carson and has not mentioned any fights. His friends have discussed fights, mainly between girls from the conversations I have overheard. This is no different than when I was in MS and HS. There were fights, plenty of them. I did not actually witness any but I knew kids were suspended for fighting and hurt in fights. Teens are hormonal, impulsive, and lacking tools to make good decisions. This was the case when we were teens and is the case today, even at the “good schools.”

I promise you that there have been more than 3 fights at Carson and every other MS this year. The email is telling you that other teens are not listening to teachers who are giving instructions while trying to break up or deal with the fight and that a big issue is kids trying to film the fight.

I would not be surprised if there are some teens who are asking their friends to film the fight because they think it wold be great tiktoc material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is at Carson and has not mentioned any fights. His friends have discussed fights, mainly between girls from the conversations I have overheard. This is no different than when I was in MS and HS. There were fights, plenty of them. I did not actually witness any but I knew kids were suspended for fighting and hurt in fights. Teens are hormonal, impulsive, and lacking tools to make good decisions. This was the case when we were teens and is the case today, even at the “good schools.”

I promise you that there have been more than 3 fights at Carson and every other MS this year. The email is telling you that other teens are not listening to teachers who are giving instructions while trying to break up or deal with the fight and that a big issue is kids trying to film the fight.

I would not be surprised if there are some teens who are asking their friends to film the fight because they think it wold be great tiktoc material.

There is a cadre of parents who want to protect the old reputation of Carson (gen of FCPS middle schools, TJ feeder) at any cost that they are unwilling to accept that it is simply no longer the case. You all pipe in any time someone dares to criticize. You know it is okay to demand better?

[Anonymous]

Carson without the AAP kids from Franklin is just another FCPS middle school. People don’t like to acknowledge that because it speaks to Skyview’s future as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Carson without the AAP kids from Franklin is just another FCPS middle school. People don’t like to acknowledge that because it speaks to Skyview’s future as well.

Well, a good portion of Franklin will likely be at Skyview. You seem to be forgetting that.

[Anonymous]

My kids went to a different MS and were there at different times. Both years for both kids we heard about fights every year, more than one. Sometimes they even showed us the awful videos because kids recorded and it was on social media.

Then they went to HS and things calmed down. They go to a different HS than yours will but it’s close by. We haven’t heard of any fights or seen any additional awful videos.

Middle school is an awful time with behavior and hormones at their worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids went to a different MS and were there at different times. Both years for both kids we heard about fights every year, more than one. Sometimes they even showed us the awful videos because kids recorded and it was on social media.

Then they went to HS and things calmed down. They go to a different HS than yours will but it’s close by. We haven’t heard of any fights or seen any additional awful videos.

Middle school is an awful time with behavior and hormones at their worst.

I am old. Went to a nice, suburban school. There were fights. I don't recall any physical girl fights, but there were definitely boys who fought.
This is nothing new.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids went to a different MS and were there at different times. Both years for both kids we heard about fights every year, more than one. Sometimes they even showed us the awful videos because kids recorded and it was on social media.

Then they went to HS and things calmed down. They go to a different HS than yours will but it’s close by. We haven’t heard of any fights or seen any additional awful videos.

Middle school is an awful time with behavior and hormones at their worst.

I am old. Went to a nice, suburban school. There were fights. I don't recall any physical girl fights, but there were definitely boys who fought.
This is nothing new.

Nothing new at all. I’m 50 and I remember the girl fights being more vicious than the boy fights. The difference is that no one could record anything back then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids went to a different MS and were there at different times. Both years for both kids we heard about fights every year, more than one. Sometimes they even showed us the awful videos because kids recorded and it was on social media.

Then they went to HS and things calmed down. They go to a different HS than yours will but it’s close by. We haven’t heard of any fights or seen any additional awful videos.

Middle school is an awful time with behavior and hormones at their worst.

True, there have always been fights and middle school is the time where these issues peak. Now there's a serious push to get everyone through middle school at their assigned school in FCPS. Getting a kid placed into a middle school CSS is nearly impossible unless there's a serious assault that leaves someone badly injured or a weapon involved. High schools are much quicker to do it. There are all kinds of alternate programs where the kids with behavior problems are placed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is at Carson and has not mentioned any fights. His friends have discussed fights, mainly between girls from the conversations I have overheard. This is no different than when I was in MS and HS. There were fights, plenty of them. I did not actually witness any but I knew kids were suspended for fighting and hurt in fights. Teens are hormonal, impulsive, and lacking tools to make good decisions. This was the case when we were teens and is the case today, even at the “good schools.”

I promise you that there have been more than 3 fights at Carson and every other MS this year. The email is telling you that other teens are not listening to teachers who are giving instructions while trying to break up or deal with the fight and that a big issue is kids trying to film the fight.

I would not be surprised if there are some teens who are asking their friends to film the fight because they think it wold be great tiktoc material.

There is a cadre of parents who want to protect the old reputation of Carson (gen of FCPS middle schools, TJ feeder) at any cost that they are unwilling to accept that it is simply no longer the case. You all pipe in any time someone dares to criticize. You know it is okay to demand better?

I could care less about Carson’s reputation. My kid is having a great experience there and has not seen the fights and the like. He has friends who have. I know the age and that this is not abnormal. What is new is adding the videotaping of the fights because of cell phones. I don’t know where you went to MS and HS but fighting in school happens, this has always been the case, at schools in the US.

I wish that the schools would return to more discipline in all level of schools but schools changed what they were doing because people complained about who was being punished. Too many White, MC, and UMC were being let off with warnings and detentions, because parents challenged suspensions, while more minorities and poor kids were being suspended, because parents were less likely to challenge suspensions. The optics looked like crap so instead of suspending more White and rich kids, they stopped disciplining all kids.

[Anonymous]

I am oh, the adults have lost the plot on schools.

[Anonymous]

They just violated the first rule of fight club. This will turn ugly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Third fight this year but only thing we get a letter about is principal asking kids not to record it. Good grief. What is going on with the messaging. And why are there so many fights?

The messaging was atrocious - they need to address the fighting. My daughter showed me this video, it was horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Carson without the AAP kids from Franklin is just another FCPS middle school. People don’t like to acknowledge that because it speaks to Skyview’s future as well.

All the FCPS schools in western Fairfax County will have similar demographic. Including your precious Oakton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids went to a different MS and were there at different times. Both years for both kids we heard about fights every year, more than one. Sometimes they even showed us the awful videos because kids recorded and it was on social media.

Then they went to HS and things calmed down. They go to a different HS than yours will but it’s close by. We haven’t heard of any fights or seen any additional awful videos.

Middle school is an awful time with behavior and hormones at their worst.

I am old. Went to a nice, suburban school. There were fights. I don't recall any physical girl fights, but there were definitely boys who fought.
This is nothing new.

Nothing new at all. I’m 50 and I remember the girl fights being more vicious than the boy fights. The difference is that no one could record anything back then.

Exactly this. I grew up in upper middle class, mostly white suburbs and there were fights. Boys and girls. Some as vicious as this one, just no-one has a record of them. The difference, however, is that there was discipline. These girls probably won't even get suspended.