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Anonymous
And Roma just beat Barcelona...meaning? Nothing. Entire conversation about result is F-ing idiotic. It is very simple. DA trains more than 2x the amount of ECNL in the NOVA area (do the math). You do anything twice as much, you going to get better at it faster. It isn't rocket science. And please don't give me the importance of high school soccer. It is an injury waiting to happen when you overload kids with that much practice and hack-fest games in a short 2-month window. DA needs to loosen the chokehold and let kids play other sports besides soccer to reduce burn-out and injuries, they need to split at least the 16/17 age group and they need to bring the costs down and ECNL will become a full 2nd tier. And that isn't a bad thing. A two-tier national league is perfectly fine except for all those parents that only care if their little Johnny and Susie are on the top team whether they can play a lick of soccer or not. |
Anonymous
What is the perfect style??? It's our style....and we win. Eat a bag of... |
Anonymous
We? Are you on the National Team? The USWNT may have one more World Cup title left before they don't win another one in a long while. We had a multiple decade head start and every that hasn't caught is catching up quickly. Turn on the television and watch some proper futbol you neanderthal. |
Anonymous
My daughter decided not to do GDA because she didn't want to give up other sports, at least for the time being. How would you propose that GDA change its program to allow soccer players more time to play other sports, especially in the middle school years, and even in the high school years? I agree with you, but not sure what you mean. Would this be in winter-time? A longer summer off-season? I think one of my daughter's friends gave up other sports too soon and is now missing playing them. We relate to that, but not sure GDA can/will change. 5 out of 7 days a week for most of the whole year makes even a recreational sport difficult, let alone some other non-soccer high school sport which is basically impossible with GDA. Thanks for any ideas. |
Anonymous
Clearly you are stupid. If you think doing something twice is much is the magic to making you better at anything than you must push a long broom in the evenings down an empty hallway. |
Anonymous
Hey dummy...all else being equal, doing something less make you develop faster? On what planet? How about playing musical instruments, should people practice less and only do performances? And I am the stupid one? |
Anonymous
dear OP, after close to 90 pages on a thread that has devolved into league bashing and ignoring the basic question, have you realized your answer was in the 2nd post on page 1? . . . the watered down / same girls / overpaying reality is here to stay. |
Anonymous
here was your answer OP |
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Anonymous
We had a multiple head start.... We? You on the NT? You sound like a complete tool bag. BTW...The term is football..not futbol. It's an English game. Since your are writting English I assume you understand English. We ...yeah We...my country...the USA...are the best in the World at Womens soccer. So go back to watching Bein sports in your wife's jeans and pretend you have some type of culture. Love, MERICA Merica |
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I posted this before and for some reason it disappeared. I can't imagine the post was removed, as it is nothing compared to the people trashing each other's clubs, calling each other stupid, and making racial slurs. Therefore, I shall try again, at least more or less the spirit of what I had put.
PDA is a great club. Nobody can deny that, as are some of the others being mentioned that are leaving or possibly the GDA, at least from a win/loss standpoint - whether that is by virtue of reputation (meaning people go because they are PDA) or by virtue of location (denser populations such as theirs have a higher density of talented players_. That said, I'm not sure my DD would be fully developed at PDA, just looking at their game day decision making. Even when playing the weaker clubs one thing that these megaclubs do not like to do is play their non-starters. PDA dominates Cedar every time, but look at the game reports. Do they start their non-starters? Of course not. One poor girl is at 17%. They like to keep winning and winning big, even if it is at the expense of the weaker players. They don't mind carrying a big roster, because that's good for training. But come game day, they want their starting 11. Every time. People think the issue is money or high school soccer. For megaclubs like PDA, they have enough money and resources, and if they can charge more for year round soccer, they will. It's better for them. High school soccer actually cuts into their profits, because they have to give up their players for half the year. But they don't like being told what to do with their players or that they have to start everyone at least 25% of the time. That's a tough pill to swallow. Again, no one can deny the track record of PDA, Michigan Hawks, and so forth, whether they do it by way of being the Cobra Kai of youth soccer or are truly building players from the ground up. That said, we didn't leave the ECNL and join the DA because of PDA, nor will we leave because of it. We joined it because no matter how many teams come or go, one objective reality remains: playing year round will develop a player into a better soccer player than just half the year. High school ball is not a developmental experience: it's a social one. I have seen high school teams that are loaded with top level players, but you wouldn't know it - at least not from a tactical standpoint. How they play for their high school is not the same high level, possession play that they do for their clubs - because that is not what their coaches want. My DD was on a team from a top ECNL team, but she has already grown this year far more with the GDA than she did the entire year with the ECNL club. As for those of you who think the GDA will fold, USSF will not simply roll over. They are a top down, we will do what we want kind of an organization. Like the age change. Almost the entire nation fought it. I don't no a single person who likes it, and my reasons are many, based on how I have seen it played out. Did that matter? No. And for all of its flaws, I can legitimately say that the GDA is run better than the ECNL. The showcases are classy, and already, the GDA hit the ground running far better than the BDA did. The GDA is here to stay - even if it takes a little time for everyone to accept that. |
Anonymous
Not OP but there is no fix ... the training ratio is set in stone and the warmer climates train all winter. The ECNL was hard for other sports as well and Girls DA ... forget about it. No time. US soccer is not trying to recruit girls that want to play multiple sports in middle school or high school. That's the trade off and go into with eyes open and don't hope they will be loosening any chokeholds ... no way is that happening ... look at the boys. |
Anonymous
Whether good or bad is Up for debate, but the way to be a multi-sport teen athlete these days, in many sports, is to play in high school exclusively. The way to be excellent in a single sport is to dedicate the time and energy to non-school-based training and competition. American Football may be the only exception. And which path your child chooses depends on her goals, as many have said here. My daughter was ready to give up her other 4 sports for soccer specialization at 9th grade, based on her goals. Ymmv. And my dd may yet change her mind and her goals, in which case I’m willing to bet she has a good shot at still playing one or more of those sports in high school as a junior or senior. |
Anonymous
| ^^^ NP. Agree. Our DD is the flip, ready to give up trying to juggle, pardon the pun, several elite club sports, with the aim of playing two or three HS sports. Cost is much less and she knows she doesn't really want college for sports. YMMV, yes. At least there is no one on here trying to tell everyone that you can do 2-3 sports (at least with a serious commitment) as a DD or ECNLer. So, everyone can pick a path which is pretty cool. |
Anonymous
It's by no means an "objective reality" that year-round soccer training creates better soccer players or ensures optimal development. I bet you already know that specialization carries risks of injury, emotional burnout, and early peaks including speed plateaus, and I assume that you took those risks in an informed way. But please don't give people the idea that there's only one way to help an athlete fulfill her potential. I mean, it depends on the training mix, but year-round specialization correlates with elite performance in soccer only for the oldest teens. Remember that European academies program using a sport sampling model. |